AMD Radeon RX 9070 and 9070 XT Official Performance Metrics Leaked, +42% 4K Performance Over Radeon RX 7900 GRE

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u think u lost the money if u buy GPU?
U can sell it, u cant get moneys back u spend in vacation.
Also u have that GPU next lets say 2y

My 4090 cost me like 400$ because i sold it.
See, i didint lost those moneys i invest in 4090 but i can enjoys High/max settings in 4K while others who spend 400$ in GPU cant.

Following that train of thought, $100,000 for a video card is no big deal, because you can sell the old one for like $90,000 so you make most of it back.

 

[Sir Beregond]

At 649$ their marketshare will keep shrinking. 549$ is good!

I agree. The beancounters at AMD I am sure feel like $649 is "good", but I don't think that would be nearly aggressive enough to shake up the market and win back marketshare.

They really need to treat this like Zen - Zen 2 where they were super aggressive in the space to claw back marketshare. It worked.

EDIT: Anyone remember the 4850 and 4870 during the 200-series from Nvidia? $199 and $299 cards respectively smacking down the $649 GTX 280 and $449 GTX 260. The difference between back then and now is people are actually not that happy with Nvidia these days. It's really a prime opportunity to do this again and win back a portion of the market.

 

[kapone32]

I agree. The beancounters at AMD I am sure feel like $649 is "good", but I don't think that would be nearly aggressive enough to shake up the market and win back marketshare.

They really need to treat this like Zen - Zen 2 where they were super aggressive in the space to claw back marketshare. It worked.

EDIT: Anyone remember the 4850 and 4870 during the 200-series from Nvidia? $199 and $299 cards respectively smacking down the $649 GTX 280 and $449 GTX 260. The difference between back then and now is people are actually not that happy with Nvidia these days. It's really a prime opportunity to do this again and win back a portion of the market.

Yes but in those days YT did not exist. I am not saying that it alone has people using excuses for every single Nvidia problem. Then there are things on TPU like a user asking about an AMD card and have a staff member respond with Nvidia.

 

[dragontamer5788]

They really need to treat this like Zen - Zen 2 where they were super aggressive in the space to claw back marketshare. It worked.

You know what worked? Fighting Intel when Intel couldn't put up decent competition.

Fighting NVidia is a different story. NVidia is almost entirely focused on GPUs (albeit on AI / Datacenter these days, but still close enough to video games to benefit).

Just dropping prices without acknowledging the long-term damage to AMD's brand is a bad idea. You can't just keep dropping prices each time NVidia raises them. If people aren't willing to jump for a nearly equivalent card at -$50 or -$100, then its not worth chasing them to -$150 or -$200.

Especially when NVidia in practice is +$200 in practice due to scalpers. So there's multiple-hundreds of dollars difference between NVidia cards and their equivalent AMD card as it is.

 

[Sir Beregond]

You know what worked? Fighting Intel when Intel couldn't put up decent competition.

Fighting NVidia is a different story. NVidia is almost entirely focused on GPUs (albeit on AI / Datacenter these days, but still close enough to video games to benefit).

Just dropping prices without acknowledging the long-term damage to AMD's brand is a bad idea. You can't just keep dropping prices each time NVidia raises them. If people aren't willing to jump for a nearly equivalent card at -$50 or -$100, then its not worth chasing them to -$150 or -$200.

Especially when NVidia in practice is +$200 in practice due to scalpers. So there's multiple-hundreds of dollars difference between NVidia cards and their equivalent AMD card as it is.

Then what the hell is even AMD's long term game here. That strategy didn't win them any market last gen. So if the game is that they are content to sell to their little niche of fans, then sure. If they are actually telling the truth about wanting to take back marketshare, the market has made it clear that that's not good enough.

 

[medi01]

At 649$ their marketshare will keep shrinking. 549$ is good!

OEMs control market share (and that is how Intel's share is raising), DIY is just 16% of the market.

Also, no way in hell AMD would undercut its own card, the 7900XTX by nearly 50%, when the cheapest 5070Ti that one can get starts at 1200+ Euro.

 

[kerberos_20]

so 9070 xt on par with the 5070ti/7090xtx and the 9070 on par with the 7900xt/3090ti

now if you price them like those cards expect market share going to zero, so you're move AMD. I would say 650 for the xt and 550 for the non xt (probably too much to compete with the 5070 non ti) to have any chance of making any meaningful sales.

Not sure what they were doing as RT performance seems incredibly disappointing, didn't they promised the opposite?

theres no competition, nvidia doesnt have stock, people will grab whats available

 

[TheGeekn°72]

OEMs control market share (and that is how Intel's share is raising), DIY is just 16% of the market.

Also, no way in hell AMD would undercut its own card, the 7900XTX by nearly 50%, when the cheapest 5070Ti that one can get starts at 1200+ Euro.

There is very little stock of the XTX remaining though and I think AMD would prefer to eat the loss on the remaining XTXes than not sell RDNA4