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I’m thinking of a Windows XP build with a R9 280, FX-6300, Asrock 970 Pro3 mATX, 8 GB kit DDR3-1866/2133. The 970 board because there is XP chipset drivers, and the board is brand new old stock for $70. Youu can download from AMD’s support page Radeon 7950 XP drivers that work with a rebadge R9 280.
 
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Wanted to put a warning for anyone considering RDNA2 for Windows 7 SP1 x64 use.

Radeon RX 6700 XT (trying to load CCC) :
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Radeon RX 6950 XT :
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^WDDM 1.1 support ("DDI = 9Ex"/DirectX 9.0c max. feature level support)

Crysis (OG) :
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^Fails to launch with GeForce 5(FX) style error.

Conclusion :
DO NOT buy RDNA2 for Win7/Win10 dual boot systems (note : both tested cards are reference models).
Drivers are so broken you will pull your hairs out trying to make them work (not tested ALL RDNA2 cards, but after those two - I'm not going to).
+ They work fine under Windows 10 on the same settings/platform.

PS. RTX 30-series works fine under Win7.

I’m thinking of a Windows XP build with a R9 280, FX-6300, Asrock 970 Pro3 mATX, 8 GB kit DDR3-1866/2133. The 970 board because there is XP chipset drivers, and the board is brand new old stock for $70. Youu can download from AMD’s support page Radeon 7950 XP drivers that work with a rebadge R9 280.
Windows XP + Bulldozer/Vishera ?
You like to live dangerously :cool:
 
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EDIT: No go. 112 POSTs but as soon as WinME's bootscreen shows up (and 98SE does this too btw, I had a spare drive just in that case) it hard freezes. No amount of voltage bump seems to have allowed for more than 100.
I'm betting real money you could get 103mhz FSB out of it stable, maybe even 105mhz. If you dialed in the voltage just right. Don't give it more than 2.2V though. Most of the 300A's(not all) could get just above 100. Tinker with it some more, I'll bet it'll do it. Make sure you mount a faster 80mm fan on the heatsink though. Heat is limiting factor. Plenty of cooling is needed for stability with those Mendocino cores. Unless you're happy with 100FSB. Then hey, you're golden! :rockout:

I’m thinking of a Windows XP build with a R9 280, FX-6300, Asrock 970 Pro3 mATX, 8 GB kit DDR3-1866/2133. The 970 board because there is XP chipset drivers, and the board is brand new old stock for $70. Youu can download from AMD’s support page Radeon 7950 XP drivers that work with a rebadge R9 280.
That's a very nice setup! I would go with the DDR3-1866. The gains you'd get from DDR3-2133 would marginal at best on that chipset/CPU combo. 1866 is dead cheap right now, 2133 isn't. Also, unless you already have the CPU, may I suggest an FX8300? The extra module(2cores/1FPU) will make a solid difference for some games(even on XP). Only a thought.

PS. RTX 30-series works fine under Win7.
Yeah, an RTX 3070 seems to be the last all-rounder for Windows 7.

Windows XP + Bulldozer/Vishera ?
You like to live dangerously :cool:
Wait, what do you mean? Seems like a solid combo to me. Am I missing something?
 
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Huh never liked the idea of much OVERbuilded systems for 98, XP, 7 ect... Like RTX 3070 for god damn win 7, like wtF... For me the max is like GTX 980/TaI or maybe GTX 1080/TaI, it just feels wrong to me, and it annoys me too... Tho i know why many do this, way overbuild systems = op gaming and everything... Still Dual s370 tualatins/ AXPs >>>> C2Q/ i7 in my book....

Anyway...


Was thinking about s939 system, i really like the platform, and is also rare platform, specially the high end parts are very hard to find, when not using ebay... But i do lack the desired mobo MSI NF3 Delta Platinum with the AGP slot, as i surely want s939 with AGP slot, since is DDR400 platform, i think AGP is the slot that needs to be present... But dont have that mobo, or any proper s939 with AGP... Ofc PCI ex with dual GPUs is also option, but dont like it as much for 939, on 775 will be better i think...


The old s939 build, used that for short back in 2017, GPU was Radeon HD4670, but not present in the pictures... Gotta say was pleased how the system was working, for its age... Also it was in the AthlonXP system case, that i were not using at that time... If someone is wondering wtF is going with that case, well CM Elite 330, modded to lets say Dodge Charger R/T, or at least thought so lol...

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Now parts that can be used for proper s939 build... With the only nice x2 939 CPU i have Opteron 165, that also clocks up to 2.7GHz being fast AF with that speed, prob the Mushkin 2GB kit since is DDR500, mobo prob the MSI Diamond, since is very high end model, also i got it brand new too, GPU x1950XTX or HD4870.. Cooler is not optimal ofc, but i really like Zalman copper flower style coolers, they are defenitive for that era... The case is also very special, and nice to the touch too... When i did pwr on for the first time that MSI, i found that the god damn nGreedia nForce chipset is getting hot as hell, it did even change the color of the heatsink, that was UNexpected, but for sure will add fans and more metal to it, in order to be ok... Damn nGreedia chipsets are all always hot to the point of melting, only nForce II was any good, after that they are all hot stoves and furnaces...


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Guess this is mah idea for nice XP system, not what others do RTX 5090/ 7900XTX paired with Ryzen 9800x3D/ 14900KFc and 128GB of ram....
 
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Vista64 "build" (yet to decide case). Had to replace the GB mainboard with a Winfast/Foxconn later down the road though.

- Athlon 64x2 4600+ 939
- Geforce 7600GT, replaced with 8800GTX 768MB
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- WD 160GB HDD + 2x 74GB Raptor RAID

XP era, for me it ends at late Socket 478/early 775 pre-DDR2. Anything past that (754/939/AM2/775 DDR2) is Vista and up territory.
 
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XP era, for me it ends at late Socket 478/early 775 pre-DDR2. Anything past that (754/939/AM2/775 DDR2) is Vista and up territory.
Vista is an absolute no-go for me with a single-core processor.
 
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XP era, for me it ends at late Socket 478/early 775 pre-DDR2. Anything past that (754/939/AM2/775 DDR2) is Vista and up territory.
Not me. I used XP well into the Socket 1366 timeframe.

Vista is an absolute no-go for me with a single-core processor.
Heck it was problematic even for a few quad core CPU's. EDIT: Until SP1, then it was pretty solid.
 
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Wanted to put a warning for anyone considering RDNA2 for Windows 7 SP1 x64 use.
That's weird considering RX 6000 series is officially supported in Win7. Did you use the same installation for testing the RTX 30 series? Fully updated OS to at least January 2020? Perhaps a key component is missing, like DirectX or Platform Update?

AMD list two Win7 drivers for the RX 6000 series for some reason, the latest 22.6.1, and another which appears to be 21.9.12. Have you tried the other one?
 
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A little comp action from my 754 setup..... On air, if you can believe I'd ever do such a thing. o_O

DFI NF4X Infinity with a 3400+ Newark.


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I found two old reviews I left while I was on Newegg.

XP era, for me it ends at late Socket 478/early 775 pre-DDR2. Anything past that (754/939/AM2/775 DDR2) is Vista and up territory.
I thought the FX-6300 which I have on hand from a CyberPower build would make for a fast XP build.
 
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I spent the whole day on my WinXP machine trying to figure out a resident anti-malware solution.

Until now it's been running Norton Security with current definitions, but my subscription expired recently. I tried with a new licence, but no dice. The app acknowledged the key and paired it with the system, but it was unable to activate it despite my multiple attempts. Re-installing changed nothing. And then I remembered my old post here.

I tried my luck with Avast Free Antivirus next. The latest version supported by XP installed without a problem and downloaded the most recent definitions straight away! I tried to upgrade to the paid version for the firewall but alas, it would not accept the provided key.

I guess it's as close to online security as it gets on this vintage system:

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It's incredible that a 24 year old OS is being supported by some software, and can still (technically) be used for web browsing :clap:
Look out for csrss.exe Windows service (Task Manager) using up lots of CPU (~25% with 4-core, ~50% with 2-core system) after avast free updates itself (same with AVG Free). From october 2024 they don't test their updates on XP anymore (only Win7 SP1) and I believe they've broken something. CPU usage gets to 0% after uninstall of avast and restart...
 
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Huh..... Guess who did voids its warranty with these comments... AMD, Intel, nGreedia liked this post.....
 
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Wait, what do you mean? Seems like a solid combo to me. Am I missing something?
Windows XP doesn't understand what a CMT is. You will be missing some performance due to that.
Granted though, not tested myself mid range/high end FX-class AM3+ CPUs under it.

That's weird considering RX 6000 series is officially supported in Win7. Did you use the same installation for testing the RTX 30 series? Fully updated OS to at least January 2020? Perhaps a key component is missing, like DirectX or Platform Update?

AMD list two Win7 drivers for the RX 6000 series for some reason, the latest 22.6.1, and another which appears to be 21.9.12. Have you tried the other one?
RX 6x50 is 2022 refresh, there is no 2021 driver for those (official that is).
Windows 7 was updated as much as possible, along with .NET/dxwebsetup things.
Yes I tried the other driver, didn't helped :(

Not all Windows 7 supporting systems have full compatibility with the UEFI system that the RX6000 series looks for. Fairly certain this is where the problems are.
Both my RX 6000 cards POSTed without issues with my testing MB (LGA 775/P45).
UEFI thing can be bypassed by using non-EFI only GPU as boot only, and switching that off in device manager in Windows (with switching outputs on monitor).
Above "hack" didn't worked for my RX 5700 XT Red Devil though (refused to boot Windows 10 or 7 after GPU swap - not sure why).
OH, I should add both RX 6000 worked fine on my test platform under Windows 10 x64.
 
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Look out for csrss.exe Windows service (Task Manager) using up lots of CPU (~25% with 4-core, ~50% with 2-core system) after avast free updates itself (same with AVG Free). From october 2024 they don't test their updates on XP anymore (only Win7 SP1) and I believe they've broken something. CPU usage gets to 0% after uninstall of avast and restart...
Will keep an eye on the process next time I fire the rig up. Thanks for the tip!
 
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I wonder did ELSA build this, or if not who the OEM is, as when i did stash the GF II GTS in the nVIDIA box, i did look at the other models i have, and i saw the build quality of that ELSA card, and it is insane... The MSI red MX440 is is also high build quality, but the ELSA is next level... So i wonder if someone knows who made that ELSA... Maybe the made in USA have something to do with that...

nVidia reference, ELSA just slapped their label there.
That's right.

GeForce 3 64 MB DDR AGP by nVIDIA:

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Windows XP doesn't understand what a CMT is. You will be missing some performance due to that.
Granted though, not tested myself mid range/high end FX-class AM3+ CPUs under it.
Um, remind me, what is CMT in this context? I have a Xeon W3680 running XP and the OS has no issues utilizing all of the cores. I also have an FX6300 and XP has no issues with it either. What am I missing?
Both my RX 6000 cards POSTed without issues with my testing MB (LGA 775/P45).
UEFI thing can be bypassed by using non-EFI only GPU as boot only, and switching that off in device manager in Windows (with switching outputs on monitor).
Above "hack" didn't worked for my RX 5700 XT Red Devil though (refused to boot Windows 10 or 7 after GPU swap - not sure why).
Yeah, that seems about right.
 
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Hey guys, long time no see.

Yes, it's been a while since the last time I've checked in here, but I'm very much glad to see that our old thread is still going strong :)

I've had some serious family drama last year, probably for the best not to go into too much details (some of the info had been mentioned on my profile, actually) but for now let's say that I'll be stepping away from all the forums, hobbies and such until one day when (and if) I'll be able to pick it up & continue where I left.

In fact, there's really not that much "retro stuff" to even talk about on my end, I even reached the point where I had to "cheat" & use those notorious, cheeky Glide emulators for playing old games since my genuine hardware is already packed up & safely stored for the time being.



*gasp* I know, I know, it's terrible - right? Seeing that Carmageddon 2 on a full-sized LED TV/Monitor just doesn't feel right! And to think that it's being powered by i5 & 16GB of RAM. Jeez, makes you wonder how low I can get..? :D

Edit
Jeez, "Long Service 10 years"... Wow, it feels like yesterday when I first joined TPU. Way back, think it was the page 116, I think. Guess you can address me as a "Senior" from now on ;)

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Yup, I was right. Page 116 ... I even linked it. Still ... 10 years?!?
 
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Um, remind me, what is CMT in this context? I have a Xeon W3680 running XP and the OS has no issues utilizing all of the cores. I also have an FX6300 and XP has no issues with it either. What am I missing?

Yeah, that seems about right.
CPU utilization [%] doesn't mean anything in this context.
Actual performance in multicore tests on XP, will get lower than on Win7/10 for Bulldozer/Vishera style architecture (in other words : "100%" utilization under XP, isn't "100%" under Win7).
Just check performance on Cinebench\Linpack Extreme\etc. with same platform on XP and then Win7/10 - see how it compares.
 
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Now working properly with the 210w power adapter it demands. The likely original battery warks with very limited runtime.

Running 2x128GB SanDisk X300S MLC SSDs in RAID 0. Has a hardware raid controller onboard. Crystaldiskinfo cannot see any drives though, anyone know why?

Apparently the FCM slot only accepts 2 or 4,gb drives to cache the hdds, not msata drives. But there's forum posts showing you can shove 2242/2230 SSDs in them with a $2 adapter, and the FCM slot and wwan slot are both going to be without use otherwise so perhaps I'll put SSDs in them for lolz.

I got a 4x4gb Kingston kit for this from eBay but organ rejection occured when I installed them. I added another 8GB of ram from a sandy bridge latitude and it's running great with 12gb total now.

Machine came with Vista from the factory. I was interested to revisit Vista since quite frankly it's been over a decade since I used it on my desktop of the time, a blazing slow Celeron 450 powered Dell Inspiron. I installed Vista Ultimate and had to mess with activation for awhile since the key on the bottom is for Vista business not ultimate. Will use for awhile and report.

It REALLY needs more CPU horsepower for the modern Internet. 360ee under vista for YouTube pegs the CPU and is slow. An QX9300 is on its way.

The slot loader also could use some attention. It works great but it makes grumpy noises.

Um, remind me, what is CMT in this context?
Cluster multi threading. Threads are grouped in pairs on FX rather than being standalone. If both threads in a pair are active, they get to fight over shared resources (FPU/cache), and it makes them each a lot slower than they would be individually.

A scheduler which is aware of this will prioritize tasks so that they're spread out and won't both threads in a cluster at once unless it has to, so the cores get full performance. Imagine you're running a game which uses 2 cores like crysis, it would ideally put them on separate clusters and use the second core on those respective clusters for background tasks etc that won't use many resources.

Often times games of this era will actually run faster on FX CPUs if you flat out disable half of the threads, forcing each core to have full performance available. Tbf, this is sometimes true for Intel CPUs with hyperthreading too (think i7 920 or something), but the benefit to disabling that is usually a lot less since it's more due to overhead and less due to a cost cut design.

Windows XP is far older than bulldozer and is unaware of the design quirks it needs to deal with. Windows 7/10 are aware of FX and have at least some level of optimizations to maximize scheduling and CPU performance.

That being said...

Windows XP doesn't understand what a CMT is. You will be missing some performance due to that.
Granted though, not tested myself mid range/high end FX-class AM3+ CPUs under it.
I'm not sure it really matters. An FX6300 is very powerful relative to your average windows XP computer. It's to the point where that the lower performance due the basic scheduler in XP probably doesn't matter, besides some of that downside is eaten up by XPs lower system demand naturally. Realistically even the most demanding of XP era titles like crysis will still run well on a 6300, so it really doesn't matter that the CPU will not quite be operating at full performance.

Honestly nothing in XP will need more than 3 cores, OP probably could disable multi threading and then most of the lack of optimizations go away.
 

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Cluster multi threading. Threads are grouped in pairs on FX rather than being standalone. If both threads in a pair are active, they get to fight over shared resources (FPU/cache), and it makes them each a lot slower than they would be individually.
Windows XP is far older than bulldozer and is unaware of the design quirks it needs to deal with.
Ah, yes. I remember now(good grief it's been a while!). And to be fair that was a problem for XP until a certain patch was applied. Don't remember when that was, but I know microsoft fixed that issue. So as long as a users XP install is reasonable up to date, that problem show not be a concern for FX CPU users wanting to use XP.
 
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2010 is nostalgic now, right?

Picked up a Radeon HD 5770 and 5870 today (both 2010 Mac Pro cards)

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(the above pic of the bare PCB is of my dad's 5770 because I forgot to take a pic of mine when I repasted it)
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Both cards work great. I can't get over how good AMD/ATI's old vapor chamber coolers were. The 5870 stays reasonably cool and quiet under full load.

I ran my 5770 (bottom) with my dad's 5770 (top) in his 2010 Mac Pro for shits and giggles.

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Finally made his rig fully sick.
 
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