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Read the post again, think you missed the part that did specify 2 things......... 1 being the PR second being the OEM contracts ...... they weren't supposed to be related that's why it's 2 things.........

You still attributed the poor sales to PR, which again , makes little to no sense.
 
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You still attributed the poor sales to PR, which again , makes little to no sense.

Dude, really? Check nVidia's keynote vs AMD's. You'll catch the drift sooner or later, unless your product is marketed it won't sell, have you been living under a rock? Apple's got lines of dullards waiting in font of a store after 1 ad campaign. Do you actually think that showcasing your product better won't impact your sales? What was the last PC gaming event that you saw AMD's name in the line-up and how many did you see nVidia headlining. THAT sells your product not some lame keynote where everyone is half asleep and when you bring out the "new" tech the crowd goes mild. Also if you take into account the horrible driver support that AMD had back in those days you'll start seeing a picture. Think I stated this a couple of times now, you can have the most powerful GPU on the planet and it would cost $1 to produce, if you can't sell your product to the masses, it's your own damn fault.
 
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unless your product is marketed it won't sell, have you been living under a rock?

Marketing != PR. Dude, really ? Do you not know the meaning of these words ?
 
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Marketing != PR. Dude, really ? Do you not know the meaning of these words ?


Public relations (PR) is the practice of managing the spread of information between an individual or an organization (such as a business, government agency, or a nonprofit organization) and the public.[1] Public relations may include an organization or individual gaining exposure to their audiences using topics of public interest and news items that do not require direct payment.[2] This differentiates it from advertising as a form of marketing communications. Public relations is the idea of creating coverage for clients for free, rather than marketing or advertising. But now advertising is also a part of greater PR Activities.[3] An example of good public relations would be generating an article featuring a client, rather than paying for the client to be advertised next to the article.[4] The aim of public relations is to inform the public, prospective customers, investors, partners, employees, and other stakeholders and ultimately persuade them to maintain a positive or favorable view about the organization, its leadership, products, or political decisions. Public relations professionals typically work for PR and marketing firms, businesses and companies, government, and public officials as PIOs and nongovernmental organizations, and nonprofit organizations. Jobs central to public relations include account coordinator, account executive, account supervisor, and media relations manager
Marketing communications (MC, marcom(s), marcomm(s)) uses different marketing channels and tools in combination:[1] Marketing communication channels focuses on any way a business communicates a message to its desired market, or the market in general. A marketing communication tool can be anything from: advertising, personal selling, direct marketing, sponsorship, communication, promotion and public relations.


Please enlighten me.
 

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Dude, really? Check nVidia's keynote vs AMD's. You'll catch the drift sooner or later, unless your product is marketed it won't sell, have you been living under a rock? Apple's got lines of dullards waiting in font of a store after 1 ad campaign. Do you actually think that showcasing your product better won't impact your sales? What was the last PC gaming event that you saw AMD's name in the line-up and how many did you see nVidia headlining. THAT sells your product not some lame keynote where everyone is half asleep and when you bring out the "new" tech the crowd goes mild. Also if you take into account the horrible driver support that AMD had back in those days you'll start seeing a picture. Think I stated this a couple of times now, you can have the most powerful GPU on the planet and it would cost $1 to produce, if you can't sell your product to the masses, it's your own damn fault.
Far Cry 5 and AC Odyssey are both A!MD games and both leverage Freesync 2 and HDR. I’m making use of both of those AMD techs
 
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The aim of public relations is to inform the public, prospective customers, investors, partners, employees, and other stakeholders and ultimately persuade them to maintain a positive or favorable view about the organization, its leadership, products, or political decisions.

Any marketing mentioned in there ? You even wrote it in bold. Maybe you missed this bit :

This differentiates it from advertising as a form of marketing communications.

Please enlighten me.

There you go.
 
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Any marketing mentioned in there ? You even wrote it in bold. Maybe you missed this bit :





There you go.
"Marketing communications (MC, marcom(s), marcomm(s)) uses different marketing channels and tools in combination:[1] Marketing communication channels focuses on any way a business communicates a message to its desired market, or the market in general. A marketing communication tool can be anything from: advertising, personal selling, direct marketing, sponsorship, communication, promotion and public relations. "

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Far Cry 5 and AC Odyssey are both A!MD games and both leverage Freesync 2 and HDR. I’m making use of both of those AMD techs


Good. And you do that because that was the selling point of said products. What was the 380's selling point? "you should buy ours because it's better" or "Hey our drivers aren't that crappy" ?
 

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Good. And you do that because that was the selling point of said products. What was the 380's selling point? "you should buy ours because it's better" or "Hey our drivers aren't that crappy" ?
I’m on my 2nd Freesync monitor I’ve owned Fury and now Vega and have been with ATI/AMD since the 9600. the crappy drivers thing is a fallacy. I’m also a beta tester and even on betas I’ve experienced very few issues and they are quickly corrected because of the Vanguard team . All you got is the DX11 overhead, that’s legit, anything else is anti AMD nonsense.
 
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I’m on my 2nd Freesync monitor I’ve owned Fury and now Vega and have been with ATI/AMD since the 9600. the crappy drivers thing is a fallacy. I’m also a beta tester and even on betas I’ve experienced very few issues and they are quickly corrected because of the Vanguard team . All you got is the DX11 overhead, that’s legit, anything else is anti AMD nonsense.

Up until Raja took over the bad driver trend was all over the place, had my issues with a 290x, more than with the nvidia equivalent. AMD's reddit was full of complaints, more than nVidia's camp that was. The main reason why people were so upset was that most of the improvements that gen got was after the next gen was out, day 1 performance being lacking, thus that "fine wine" trend started. Seeing improvements that should've been there in the first couple of months tops after 1-2 years isn't quite ok with people. At launch the 380 performed on par with the 960.


Also reviews kinda helped people in making a decision:
https://www.techspot.com/review/1019-radeon-r9-390x-390-380/page8.html
 

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You're forgetting the fact that 104 wasn't even a high end part to begin with. It's just 310 mm^2, a couple of years ago that would have been the xx60 part from the very start.
I had to laugh at your continued walls of text you keep writing to try to prove your own bolded part. Bottom line, that is not a given and has not been the case. We have to go all the way back to Kepler to find one x60 specialty offshoot model using 104 chip, and that is the 660Ti. So yeah, Nviidia has been damned consistent.
 
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3Gb 1060, 6Gb 1060, oh, faster 6Gb 1060.

Works very well in #cluelessbuygreen market.
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Up until Raja took over the bad driver trend was all over the place, had my issues with a 290x, more than with the nvidia equivalent. AMD's reddit was full of complaints, more than nVidia's camp that was. The main reason why people were so upset was that most of the improvements that gen got was after the next gen was out, day 1 performance being lacking, thus that "fine wine" trend started. Seeing improvements that should've been there in the first couple of months tops after 1-2 years isn't quite ok with people. At launch the 380 performed on par with the 960.


Also reviews kinda helped people in making a decision:
https://www.techspot.com/review/1019-radeon-r9-390x-390-380/page8.html
FWIW just because your card wasn’t listed in the improvements/fixes doesn’t mean it didn’t get any. You’re always going to list improvements on your latest and greatest. Can’t cover the whole product stack.
 
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Interesting I might have missed that version just as TPU own GPU Data Base has it missing. A perhaps photoshopped Box proves what?
Nothing to prove - just 1080 meets 1060 in a position numero 69
 
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