Surprising Absolutely No One, AMD RX 6800 Series Pretty Much Out of Stock, And Scalping Becomes a Pervasive Industry Problem

moproblems99 · Nov 18, 2020

Why would AMD have had stock concerns? This was the same node.

ymbaja · Nov 18, 2020

Toolbag said:
There is no demand problem. Sure, demand is strong, people are home mostly not spending on other things. But it's not crazy, it's just everyone except Intel have released some stellar products this year, that makes sense to buy (upgrade).

There is a serious supply problem. Apple is OK with their stock levels, but everyone else is extremely behind the curve. Looking at the bits of information that is coming in from retail, neither Nvidia or AMD shipped anywhere near enough units to equal demand. How many 6800?? cards could Amazon have sold today with unlimited supply.... 10,000 in the USA maybe. How many did they have, we will never know, but I wouldn't bet over a 100.

There is only one way to stop scalping and that is having a full inventory to sell at launch. Sneaker scalpers spend over $10k USD on bots plus maintenance fee's. You think captcha's will stop them. These folks have some advanced tech. Even if you or I or Average Joe buys one intent on using it, the lure of double or tripling the price on e-Bay get's in your head.

So why is all this happening. I have a feeling AMD and Intel feel pressure to keep their stock prices up and Wall Street loves these launches. So they paper launch in the Fall knowing they won't ship until Winter/Spring. It creates a buzz and their valuation remains high.

^^ this

seth1911 · Nov 18, 2020

everyone who buy a Card for the ebay prices is an dumb idiot.

zlobby · Nov 18, 2020

TheLostSwede said:
Since it's in the middle of night here, most shops haven't updated their inventory, but at least a couple of shops seem to have stock.
Plenty of 3090's and 3080's in stock here though.

Nobody in their right mind wants nvidia when AMD's latest gen is out!

Jism · Nov 18, 2020

I woud'nt worry about it too much, you can also wait for 1 to 2 months, or even better after the hollidays, chances are big you can get a card.

bonehead123 · Nov 18, 2020

TheDeeGee said:
Scalpers need the wild west treatment... hanging.

No, that would be too good for 'em, they deserve that OTHER w.w. treatment....

Tarred & feathered, strung up by their toenails, and left to rot in the sun while the vultures pick at their dried-assed carcasses, hehehehe

sepheronx · Nov 18, 2020

I tried to make an order but nope. None. And memoryexpress said they won't carry anytime soon.

Mistral · Nov 18, 2020

sepheronx said:
I tried to make an order but nope. None. And memoryexpress said they won't carry anytime soon.

Ah, a fellow bloody Canadian, eh? I've pretty much given up on getting one before New Year... then again, considering what games I'm playing at the moment, I don't even need it. Maybe I'll just grab a second-hand 5700 after they drop under $300.

StellarShots · Nov 18, 2020

Found all the Scalpers on ebay. Unbelievable how many were bought for resale which is a no no. Book them Danno

MxPhenom 216 · Nov 18, 2020

zlobby said:
Nobody in their right mind wants nvidia when AMD's latest gen is out!

Idk about that. Its not like AMDs shit is smacking Nvidia around. Maybe if power consumptions matters to you...

moproblems99 · Nov 18, 2020

MxPhenom 216 said:
Idk about that. Its not like AMDs shit is smacking Nvidia around. Maybe if power consumptions matters to you...

Either is a fine choice. The deciding factors are really RT vs power consumption.

Arpeegee · Nov 18, 2020

Just wanted to add that the fact a few users here were able to pick up a card make this NOT a paper launch.

Neither was the Nvidia launches, just super high demand and lack of supply because of COVID-19. Also the gaming population has grown since the last console launches (2013).

john_ · Nov 18, 2020

Trolling level : 6800

Paganstomp · Nov 18, 2020

20 years ago the only way I could own a PC was to build it myself. I could buy parts at a local store or when a computer show would come into town from time to time. Now it looks like you can't even get the parts online without getting scalped. Man, have times changed. To think that ALL that was said about how online shopping was the way to go. Now we have major supply issues that is unfolded right before everyone's eyes and nobody can do a damn think about it.

Punkenjoy · Nov 18, 2020

I dont recall many launch that all products were sold out on day 1 (if they were available at all lol) in the 20+ years i was following IT.

Sold out on day 1 is one thing, not available 3 month after launch is another one. We still have to wait to see if both Ryzen 5000 cpu and 6000 gpu release are paperlaunch or not.

i hope i could get a 6800 in december, but we will see.

MxPhenom 216 · Nov 18, 2020

Punkenjoy said:
I dont recall many launch that all products were sold out on day 1 (if they were available at all lol) in the 20+ years i was following IT.

Sold out on day 1 is one thing, not available 3 month after launch is another one. We still have to wait to see if both Ryzen 5000 cpu and 6000 gpu release are paperlaunch or not.

i hope i could get a 6800 in december, but we will see.

Technically if there's cards in the hands of consumers, no matter the level at which that is, its not a paper launch by definition.

hurakura · Nov 18, 2020

The scalpers deserve the 5 black guys treatment

yotano211 · Nov 18, 2020

seth1911 said:
everyone who buy a Card for the ebay prices is an dumb idiot.

I guess I have 4 idiot customers. Don't worry, I'm out of stock.

Deleted member 24505 · Nov 18, 2020

scalping is human nature caused by greed, and the desperate need of enthusiasts to have to latest crap. If there was not such desperate need then scalping would be pointless so not happen. scalpers are hated but just playing to exactly that need.

hurakura · Nov 18, 2020

Are those on ebay for real? 100k for a gpu?

Space Lynx · Nov 18, 2020

seth1911 said:
everyone who buy a Card for the ebay prices is an dumb idiot.

unfortunately this isn't true at all, the real truth is that we just live in a two class society, there are a LOT of rich semi-rich people in this world, and there are also a LOT of us who just get by. both groups are surprisingly big if you don't count the 1% top.

it's just a sad truth of our existence, and probably always will be.

Deleted member 24505 · Nov 18, 2020

lynx29 said:
unfortunately this isn't true at all, the real truth is that we just live in a two class society, there are a LOT of rich semi-rich people in this world, and there are also a LOT of us who just get by. both groups are surprisingly big if you don't count the 1% top.

it's just a sad truth of our existence, and probably always will be.

I agree, if you want one, pay ebay price, or buy a beer and cry in it.

hat · Nov 18, 2020

Imagine actually buying a hot new item from a scalper. Time and time again we've seen issues with launch day products. It's almost a fact of life in the PC industry. So you're buying probably a shitty product compared to what would be available later when the kinks get worked out, and your warranty is probably going to be complicated too because you technically bought it second hand, for an inflated price.

With all the downsides of buying scalped products, especially in the PC industry, I'm surprised they're even in "business". My 2600k system still has nothing to fear...

moproblems99 · Nov 18, 2020

john_ said:
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Trolling level : 6800

I had one in my cart but it crashed. Now it says I have one item in my cart but when I go to the cart, nothing is there.

Space Lynx · Nov 18, 2020

tigger said:
I agree, if you want one, pay ebay price, or buy a beer and cry in it.

well I beat the bots. So I got one at MSRP and expect to be gaming on it next week, so meh.

bots are no match for Lisa Su's ninja class!

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Surprising Absolutely No One, AMD RX 6800 Series Pretty Much Out of Stock, And Scalping Becomes a Pervasive Industry Problem

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