Surprising Absolutely No One, AMD RX 6800 Series Pretty Much Out of Stock, And Scalping Becomes a Pervasive Industry Problem

[Durvelle27]

I won't even bother, for both cpu and gpu it's a total joke at the moment., IU don't even expect to be able to get stock for my Xmas rebuild at anywhere near RRP. So sick of these paper launches. Compnay should have had a 500000 GPU's ready to ship on first release including the AIB's own stock.

The worst thing is they had the temerity to brag it wouldn't be like Nvidia's pathetic launch.

Hey it wasn't bad I scored both

 

[dinmaster]

everyone is going nuts on the out of stock thing for amd today, the real big date is nov 25 when all the aib cards come out. saw a post from Kyle Bennett on amd reddit saying they gave little stock to reference cards and most to custom cards and its expected to have a lot of stock when the aib cards launch next week. grain of salt stuff but I'm optimistic that its the case, if not then no difference from nvidia sadly..

 

[ViperXTR]

hmmm

 

[timta2]

Nobody in their right mind wants nvidia when AMD's latest gen is out!

What about the people who want decent drivers?

 

[Th3pwn3r]

What about the people who want decent drivers?

Or better cards all together... From what I've seen these AMD cards are pretty good in comparison to what AMD was offering but Nvidia is still leading in terms of performance. And for anyone wanting to say you can't buy Nvidia right now...you're wrong, I could have bought a 3090 last Wednesday at Microcenter in Westmont Illinois but I don't need one and was only there at 9:00 am to buy a couple network switches. For the money I'd buy Geforce, that's what reviews have been showing me. If AMD wants to play ball they're going to have to change pricing since they're behind performance wise. I just can't get over people acting like they found unobtanium in this thread.

 

[Basard]

This wouldn't be an issue if people didn't pay for scalped cards.....................................................................

 

[Patriot]

What about the people who want decent drivers?

Then they should also buy AMD...
I have had far more crashes on my 1080ti rig than my vega64 rig.


I am pretty much just waiting on a review of AMDs encoder to see how close to NVENC it gets... shadowplay has had soo many issues lately its not even better than relive but the quality of Nvenc is baller.

 

[Flyordie]

Just throwing it out there- Why doesn't Ebay take a stand? For the first 90 days of a new product launch, selling price can't be more than 10% over MSRP?

 

[Caring1]

Just throwing it out there- Why doesn't Ebay take a stand? For the first 90 days of a new product launch, selling price can't be more than 10% over MSRP?

Because they take a cut of the profit based on selling price.

 

[turbogear]

In Germany the launch of 6800 series was at 15:00 yesterday and at 15:02 the card appeared on Mindfactory.
I put it into my basket and in few minutes it was paid through PayPal.
Their website was extremely slow for 10-15 minuntes after 15:00.
I called Mindfactory afterwards to check if I will get one.
They said unfortunately not.
The stock was gone while I was still paying.
This makes me wonder if it was not some automated buying process running behind which can pay much faster. I mean it took at most 1-2minutes until I paid for mine.

The guy on the phone said that stock was very low and he does not expect it to come back until over a month. He said it is same situation like RTX3080.

I cancelled my order and will wait until some time in future for the cards to be back in stock but I will not pay extreme prices on eBay to those criminal who steal the stock away from genuine gamers.

At least I could buy Ryzen 5800X (Tray version) at Alternate for 469€ this week. It comes with Farcry 6 code.

5800x is sold out everywhere and on eBay there are lot of these frauds selling it from private accounts for upto 600€ - 700€.
I will not feed such criminal by buying from them for extreme prices.
If people will stop buying from such sources at those prices then this would stop at some point.

 

[ratirt]

I don't see them cards even listed anywhere. Not even one site has those listed. How can anyone buy something that is not listed in the store? Mind boggling.

 

[R-T-B]

Scalpers need the wild west treatment... hanging.

Death for scalping seems a bit harsh... frankly.

I mean we throw people in jail for far worse.

 

[oobymach]

People been scalping hw as long as there has been a market for it (ebay). A limited release platform like a game console gets sold out and someone makes a few grand off an unopened one. It's the way things work, the rich will pay almost any price to get the thing first.

 

[zlobby]

Death for scalping seems a bit harsh... frankly.

I mean we throw people in jail for far worse.

And yet, we have killed for far less. Let's not limit our options.

 

[R-T-B]

And yet, we have killed for far less. Let's not limit our options.

I mean, people have killed for chicken mcnuggets, but that doesn't mean we should endorse it...

 

[WeeRab]

AFAIK AIB vendors don't release their cards for another week or so. So the screenshots are a bit misleading.
MBA (made by AMD) cards are a separate matter though.

 

[Basard]

I mean, people have killed for chicken mcnuggets, but that doesn't mean we should endorse it...

Totally depends on the nature of the mcnugget emergency....

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Just stop crying and wait, it's not the end of the world because you can't buy a new GPU you probably don't need anyway.

 

[Chomiq]

Out of curiosity I've contacted morele.net, from Nvidia's list of official retailers for 30-series, about the availability of 3080 TUF from Asus:

"We are still awaiting shipment. Orders are filled out chronologically, expected time between placing order and delivery - 2/3 months."

Co-worker contacted x-kom.pl on Wednesday, they've said they don't expect deliveries of reference 6800's before 2021.

As of yesterday both morele.net and x-kom.pl no longer even have landing pages for 6800's, it's like they never launched.

 

[Chrispy_]

For various reasons, mainly COVID isolations/lockdowns causing people to have more spare money and spend more time indoors, it's really hard to buy any graphics cards at the moment.

Forget the RX6800 series and RTX 3000-series, the shortages also apply to the RTX 2000-series, the RX5000-series, and used stock of anything reasonable on eBay.

Basically, if you have $250+ and want to buy a graphics card right now at anything approaching the MSRP then the answer is no.

 

[purecain]

I'm supposedly a conspiracy theorist for even mentioning that this is going on.

 

[Chomiq]

From proline.pl. 1 USD = 3.77 PLN. That's a regular store, not some ebay scalper (although it might as well be one at $1300 for 3080).

Difference between other retailers such as x-kom and morele is that they actually have those cards in stock but barely anyone is buying them because of insane prices.

 

[ARF]

For various reasons, mainly COVID isolations/lockdowns causing people to have more spare money and spend more time indoors, it's really hard to buy any graphics cards at the moment.

Forget the RX6800 series and RTX 3000-series, the shortages also apply to the RTX 2000-series, the RX5000-series, and used stock of anything reasonable on eBay.

Basically, if you have $250+ and want to buy a graphics card right now at anything approaching the MSRP then the answer is no.

There is stock but limited and mainly older cards such as RX 550, RX 5700 and other super uninteresting.

Another thing is the Ryzen 9 5900X availability - nowhere to be found in free sale, while plenty of stock in prebuilt super expensive rigs, that I guess no normal person should ever ever consider:

PC-System Preisvergleich | Günstig bei idealo kaufen

 

[looks]

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From proline.pl. 1 USD = 3.77 PLN. That's a regular store, not some ebay scalper (although it might as well be one at $1300 for 3080).

Difference between other retailers such as x-kom and morele is that they actually have those cards in stock but barely anyone is buying them because of insane prices.

no 3080, but here are the 3090 and 3070 prices on Taiwan's biggest online retailer, taxes already included, will deliver to your house within 24 hours.
1 USD = 29 NTD
oh, and they only had like 1~2 RX6800(not even XT versions) cards for sale on launch, gone in milliseconds, still no AMD 5000 series CPU stock.

 

[John Naylor]

I expect that threads like these are being used in economics classes all over.

1. What happened to evil Nvidia posts laying blame at their feet last month ... as if this wasn't gonna happen.

2. Folks wanna blame nvidia, AMD, newegg, Amazon , ebay etc.... there is one and only one group of people to blame.... the folks sitting up late at night sniping for any new card, just to be the 1st on the block to have the new shiny thing and those burning to get a pic of "their rig" posted on instagram and pile up some likes.

3. This is the way it works,,,,

a) Manufacturers are cash poor pushing a product to market .... once the new launch is imminent cash flow tanks as folks stop buying current gen cards.
b) When the new gen launches, yields will be at their lowest point and they need to restart the cash flow train and get some money in. So they sell what they can.
c) Remember what it means to be on the bleeding edge, you are a beta tester. All the defects, BIOS errors, lousy drivers that are discovered during the 1st few months will be corrected down the road, Eventually, you will be able to take advantage of new BIOSs and driver corrections, but you not only paid a huge premium to be a tester, you don't get money back for dealing withn all the headaches. You may get lucky if your defect is big enough to be embarassing and you can RMA not, but more often than not this won't be the case. RMA is no picnic ... just ask EVGA 970, 1060 - 1080 owners with cooling issues, MSI owners who broke their fans taking tape off. 6 pin RX480 owners.

4. Imagine if ya had the patience to wait ....

a) Lower prices
b) Don't have to endure early driver headaches
c) Don't have to replace BIOS as with 6 pin 480s and live with reduced performance for as long as you own the card.
d) Your card may break requiring an RMA, but all known design defects that the early adopters dealt with, you don't have to hassle with.
e) As production lines are tweaked over time .... we see more performance ... RAM is the most onservable as higher speeds / low CAS modules became available ... and, barring shortages, less money. Like CPUs, the % of cards that break a certain OC level improves gradually over time ... more AIB options become available over time.

5. The only people who can affect prices are the people buying the cards.

a) Supplier contacts were signed months ago. Whole sale price is determined as a % of MSRP.
b) Gonna complain that AIB vendors are setting up their own shops ? Really ? Notice that MSRP of AIB cards has risen significantly. When vendors are marking up cards 10-20% over MSRP, they can regain some control .... they can raise /lower their MSRP as they please in response to market. But when the cards are selling at 25% ... 30% , do you think they are going to sit there and let vendors take 80% of the pie ?
c) Everyone in the chain has to pay rent every month, has to pay employees, utility bills, they can't do that with no money coming in. Each link in the chain suffers when products sit on shelves... each link in the chain misses out when there's no product on the shelves. They only way they can keep the doors open and meet their legal obligations to their shareholders to maximize shareholder return is to match demand with supply. If nvidia / AND doesnt have the units to send to vendors and AIBs, they are not meeting their financial obligations, same with AIBs, same with vendors.

6. OK lets take a class in Economics 101. If the $700 card is selling at $900 what is the obvious response when allotments are arriving every 7 days and selling out in three days. (Correct Answer raise price, you are not making money 4 days a week.). If you are selling $700 cards at $750 and when the new shipment arrives, you have xx number of units still sitting on shelves, what is the correct response (Lower prices). Google "what the market will bear". While this a topic with multiple answers in small businesses, corporation directors have a fiscal responsibility to maximize shareholder return with legal and ethical limits. Percent profit margin is not an ethical limit except when the product is "necessary" (i.e. medicine) and no other sources are available. A gaming card is not a necessity. The consumer is in control here .... You don't want to pay exhorbitant prices at the local steakhouse... go to a different one, get a hamburger or cook at home.