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Alderon Games claims that substantial numbers of Intel 13th Gen and 14th Gen chips are defective

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We may have a mixture of issues, e.g. buildzoid when he switched his CPU back to spec manually (as well as using a new bios with baseline implemented) his problems were solved. His CPU he reported was also unstable from day 1.

We also have a confirmed TVB problem from Intel which they say is fixed by updating the microcode. Sadly I have not seen anyone at all, try to disable TVB in the bios to see if it stabilises anything, instead lots of people manually down clocking, but not toggling TVB specifically.

Its good you thinking rationally and also think it might be a mixture of issues. Wendell and Steve made the same point as well that the earlier bios reports cannot be set aside as they may well still be relevant.

I suppose another question, just came into my head, how many of these W680 boards have the TVB microcode update? As that is an actual confirmed problem. I would like to think Wendell did ask the datacentres that question.

That TVB update was targeted for release this month. No board has received it yet afaik.
 
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That TVB update was targeted for release this month. No board has received it yet afaik.

The Apex Encore just had it released.

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The Apex Encore just had it released.

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Yeah it was scheduled to release sometime this week. This is probably the best supported MB around so doesn't surprise me it already received it. Z690s will likely see another month or two for a rollout and that's because Intel designated it an emergency update...
 

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Imagine buying a Apex to run at 150w TPD. Sad times.

On the topic of cache/ring. I have mine locked at 49x. It becomes very unstable at 52x+. Maybe my CPUs is a buggy one but it just happens to I lock all the voltages and multiplier. Some of those system crashes level1 was describing are signs are unstable core / voltages.
 
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Imagine buying a Apex to run at 150w TPD. Sad times.

On the topic of cache/ring. I have mine locked at 49x. It becomes very unstable at 52x+. Maybe my CPUs is a buggy one but it just happens to I lock all the voltages and multiplier. Some of those system crashes level1 was describing are signs are unstable core / voltages.
Mine is at 49x as well, 50x unstable -- though it feigns stability for a good bit. Watch it be something stupid like a tvb issue.
 
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What's the default supposed to be? I never changed ring ratio on my CPU before, but I'm fairly sure I remember seeing it at 5000MHz on my 13900KS out of the box with the Ace but I don't recall exactly... my Apex still hasn't arrived :(

I got everything ready for the rebuild. Some Honeywell PTM7950, a new SSD, etc.
 

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For most of my life Intel had been the reliable brand. The set it and forget it brand. Just look at this mess. How tall does the mountain of evidence need to get before the walls of denial come crashing down?
My p4 wasnt set and forget, my Athlon XP, FX and the 5800 oem are
 
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