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China Develops Domestic EUV Tool, ASML Monopoly in Trouble

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Yes, the example is exactly about stolen IP. When trolling, at least make it seem related to a previous part of the discussion, if not to the EUV topic at all. I have memories of very large parking lots with unsold cars lying around in Western countries throughout stages of their history, including the US. You see, I can digress too.


Yes, official sources also receive orders to publish propaganda and also seek for more clicks.
There is no source in this world that would make you say "yes, China is in fact stealing IPs, I was wrong" so why bother?
I hope you are at least getting paid. Because if you are so delusional for free then it's just sad.
 
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There is no source in this world that would make you say "yes, China is in fact stealing IPs, I was wrong" so why bother?
I hope you are at least getting paid. Because if you are so delusional for free then it's just sad.
I know that have not source with facts.
The hacker news bite deep. :roll:
 
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It's ironic that all the sanctions put to china actually pushed china to chase their own tech.

Between the West outsourcing its IP for cheap parts/labor and China's IP theft, they did not have to do much in the way of work.
 
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looking at the diagram what the chinese propose looks like a much more simpler way of generation EUV light, instead of 2 lasers timing perfecly to hit a single drop of tin, it is creating a EUV explosion with the tin in a static position and caching the light, I don't think that this is unfisable at all, I bet ASML could do this right now this way and make the machines a lot less complicated.
 
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Yes, official sources also receive orders to publish propaganda and also seek for more clicks.

So if 'official sources also receive orders to publish propaganda' is true,
It makes your previous arguments irrelevent.

Because official CCP sources also receive orders to publish propaganda.

Below is a picture of the CCP official (Vice Minister of Foreign Affairs of China) claiming they did not steal, did not rob, did not lie on their achievements.

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So
If 'official sources also receive orders to publish propaganda' is true, then........THEY DID, and your previous arguments are irrelevent.
and,
If 'official sources also receive orders to publish propaganda' isn't true, then you just lied.
 
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Because official CCP sources also receive orders to publish propaganda.
Surprise!?

It makes your previous arguments irrelevent.
My previous arguments about what? I publishing only my observation of how quickly the anti-China political trolls started doing their things including several new(?) accounts, probably registered for just that purpose. I laughed a lot when one troll asked me how much I earn from what I do. And all I've done is interfere with their earnings by making fun of them.
 
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Btw,
From the picture in the OP, that translates to EUV lithography objective lens mounting interferometer.
It is one part of a machine of an assembly line of manufacturing the lens for EUV lithography.
It is NOT an EUV tool at all.
It is a tool to make one of the tools that goes into the actual EUV tool.

And ASML don't even make interferometer.
Companies like Canon and Ushio made these and supply to various tool manufacturers.

It is like claiming you are able to manufacture a whole car but the only thing you showed us is a machine for making brake handles.
Yes it is an part of the car, but No that's not the whole car and it doesn't make you a car manufacturer.


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Might be an oven for Lays or Croky chips.
Moreover, should they ever succeed, no Western country and certainly not TSMC (Taiwan) will install such a machine.
Seems to me just influencing public opinion of "look we can do all that here too".

In comparison, ASML's newest machine is a beast of fourteen meters long.
 
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