9070 and 9070XT power consumption leaked by HUB

[Sithaer]

I love how my choice of a decent card under 250W is basically just the 4070S and now the 4070S respun as a new card. Unfortunate. Hey… maybe the 5060Ti 16G will be a bit more interesting. Can’t be as much of a snooze fest as 5080, 5070Ti and now the 5070. Right? Oh, who am I kidding, it will be +5% over the 4060Ti.

Yep, power consumption does matter to some ppl depending on where they live and whatnot and around 230-250W is where I draw the line regardless of how good the card is. 'This is exactly why I've went with a single 8 pin connector 3060 Ti thats even undervolted and FPS capped to my monitor's refresh rate'
Sadly the 5060 Ti most likely will be a meh card even coming from a 3060 Ti based on the 5070 so not many options left in this generation really.

 

[GrimReaper85]

I think for 250W XT will be worth it over the non-XT and for 200W and below almost same if you go non-XT.
XT is supposed to be 260W afterall, it most probably doesn't need 300W to get to 95% of max performance (at 320-340W I believe).
I will buy the XT.

 

[chrcoluk]

Please remove if it's not allowed to show leaked data.

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Doesn't look like they improved efficiency much (based on performance claims) and the cards are still very power hungry compared to Nvidia equivalent.

In power consumption (CPU+GPU on charts)
9070XT = ~7900XT
9070 = ~7900GRE

Edit:
Here's the other results they posted on the website

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Edit 2:
Again from their site:



Apparently this results are not gpu only, so it would be better to judge by differences rather than absolute values while comparing. Eg. 9070XT system consumes about 80w more than 5070TI.

Looks like 9070 is a 7900XT with the AI hardware bolted on. But of course much lower price to match the model number.

 

[freeagent]

Yup, a shrunken 7900 with neat-o- AI and RT hardware glued to it..

It should still do ok with 16GB..

 

[chrcoluk]

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These numbers are quite odd. Even so, it will still be more efficient than the previous generation, and the 9070 will undoubtedly be more efficient than the 5070.

Yeah they are inflated, my 4080 super struggles to get over 300w consumption at stock, when using uncapped load. I wonder if they are cranked up sliders numbers?

 

[Lew Zealand]

Yeah they are inflated, my 4080 super struggles to get over 300w consumption at stock, when using uncapped load. I wonder if they are cranked up sliders numbers?

They are not card power numbers. They are not claimed to be card power numbers.

A quick look at the 4060 Ti numbers alone make it clear that these are taking account of more than just the GPU.

Wait for W1zz's review tomorrow to compare.

 

[Bomby569]

probably the only metric where it accompanies the pricing. Maybe that's how decided on the pricing, by TDP.

 

[Scattergrunt]

They are not card power numbers. They are not claimed to be card power numbers.

A quick look at the 4060 Ti numbers alone make it clear that these are taking account of more than just the GPU.

The fact so many people completely missed this pretty obvious detail and took it at face value is baffling to me.

 

[Bomby569]

The fact so many people completely missed this pretty obvious detail and took it at face value is baffling to me.

what does it matter that it's not just gpu power, if all the cards get the same treatment? are there any cards there that don't use a cpu to run?
the numbers don't lie, they are on the top

 

[Scattergrunt]

what does it matter that it's not just gpu power, if all the cards get the same treatment? are there any cards there that don't use a cpu to run?
the numbers don't lie, they are on the top

.. And they're exactly what many people suspected the total TDP would be with other parts included. Whats your point?
Its exactly what was expected. These cards would run high wattage. We had the wattage numbers for them from awhile ago to know this fact, this only furthers that point. We already knew these cards were not gonna be efficient either, based on other leaks from not too long ago.
There is nothing new here. I'm merely pointing out the fact alot of people are taking this chart as fact when they're missing the fact its TOTAL and not just the gpu's power usage.

 

[Bomby569]

.. And they're exactly what many people suspected the total TDP would be with other parts included. Whats your point?
Its exactly what was expected. These cards would run high wattage. We had the wattage numbers for them from awhile ago to know this fact, this only furthers that point. We already knew these cards were not gonna be efficient with their energy.
There is nothing new here.

there is actual numbers that confirm the high power consumption, that's what's new, literally new

 

[Scattergrunt]

there is actual numbers that confirm the high power consumption, that's what's new, literally new

If that turns you off from the GPU, that's well within your right. But all the leaks and other information we had were pointing to this before, so I don't necessarily see why people are having such a reaction (outside of the initial confusion on the charts numbers.) I dont see this as new myself.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

I mean, I don't necessarily have a 100% agreement rate with them (in particular, I just question Steve's fondness for the RX 5700 XT, he will defend it teeth and claws lol), but the thing I like about Hardware Unboxed: AMD fans call them Nvidia Unboxed, Nvidia fans call them AMD Unboxed. They are definitely doing something right

Dont forget IntelUnboxed. Much like Anandtech, they seem to be paid shills for everyone, so they're clearly posting some truthful number that rustle the jimmies of everyone that goes to meatshield for their favorite corpo.

Expressing an opinion as if it's fact is not a point, it's being a dips**t. Stop it.

Crying about the cost of electricity when spending $300+ on a luxury item (a dGPU) is what makes one a dip**it. If the cost is a concern, stick with iGPUs or go work one (1) extra 4 hour shift at mcdonalds per year.

 

[thunderingroar]

Please do not post nonsense in #1 - Especially from Hardware Unboxed = Nvidia unboxed

Thanks I saw that nonsense about my 7800XT and thought yay NVIDIA unboxed hoax chart again.

The chart in #1 is wrong

Or it needs an explanation. I want to see why a 7800XT should consume 344Watt

Just checked something around 250-270 Watt. I never saw more than 220 Watt according to the windows 11 pro amd gpu driver.

check yourself please.

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www.techpowerup.com

Hardware unboxed again - garbage channel

344WATT / 252WATT = 1.365
That is more than a third wrong. 252Watts taken from https://www.techpowerup.com/review/powercolor-radeon-rx-7800-xt-hellhound/38.html

When you make a chart - name it properly in the title or write it there what it includes. When you criticise give an example:
Title could be, first line, big letters: TOTAL PC power consumption (CPU / GPU / MB / DRAM / PSU)
below with small print: Ryzen 7600X / ASUS X670-P Prime / Enermax Revolution D.F. 750W / 2x32Gib Gskill DDR5 5800 MT/s / KC3000 2TB / W11 Pro 24h2.

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The first impression was such higher power consumption. than I checked my 7800xt and saw it is "garbage channel" hoax news again. 344 Watt only for a graphic card looks insane. When it includes some other components it looks better.

Literally says PCIE+EPS (meaning GPU+CPU), i guess reading is harder than calling someone a shill

 

[wolf]

Especially from Hardware Unboxed = Nvidia unboxed

I mean, I don't necessarily have a 100% agreement rate with them (in particular, I just question Steve's fondness for the RX 5700 XT, he will defend it teeth and claws lol), but the thing I like about Hardware Unboxed: AMD fans call them Nvidia Unboxed, Nvidia fans call them AMD Unboxed. They are definitely doing something right

This, I've heard them called every variation of names.

Conclusion - the people calling them names are far more biased than HUB ever was, or is.

 

[LabRat 891]

So "RDNA4" really is just rebadged RDNA3.

"Rebadge" would imply a 7870->270X situation. Refresh, would not be entirely inaccurate. (Same as was true from RDNA 2->3

From what we've been provided thus far,
(reductionistically) RDNA4 is a monolithic re-engineered die-shrunk refresh of RDNA 3; inclusive of all (applicable) RDNA 3.5 updates to the uArch and w/ a generation newer RT engine.

 

[dir_d]

I really dont care how much power it uses, if the price is right then im happy.

 

[sn2x]

Sad to see it, 5070 Ti is looking very efficient by comparison as its more powerful and seems to use a bit less power than 9070 XT...

 

[Sir Beregond]

I mean part of this equation isn't just power drawn, its also what performance are you getting out of it for the power drawn, and how does that look vs the cards you are replacing.

Sadly we are at the point where both camps are just increasing power for more performance each generation. Gone are the days a flagship card is 250W.