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AMD Announces the $999 Radeon RX 7900 XTX and $899 RX 7900 XT, 5nm RDNA3, DisplayPort 2.1, FSR 3.0 FluidMotion

First shot fired in race that will drive gpu prices back down..? With a global recession, probably.

Also power is comparatively reasonable 355w.

Reviews will be interesting for performance. Can't trust the slides too much.
 
dragontamer5788 said:
Looks like good Rasterization, bad Raytracing, mediocre compute? There's probably a good market for this.
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the only market for me. 165hz 165 fps ultra setting in red dead 2 with no frame drop. here i come.

ultra smooth gameplay baby. fuck RT
 
xt and xtx brings back memories of yesteryear
 
Ravenmaster said:
Nvidia is fucked if AMD's card can outperform the 4090 at that price.
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Comparing the techpowerup numbers and the performance gain announced in some titles, the conclusion is that the 7900XTX is only about 10% slower than the 4090 in CB2077 and WD Legion.

Of course, the methodologies must be different making the comparison invalid, but it is already a good speculative basis. I also suspect that AMD could tie or beat the 4090 by pushing the TDP far beyond the efficiency curve, but that would result in a very small advantage and the design would have to be more robust... I'm happy with the path AMD chose, must be the most surprising release in recent years.
 
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Comparing the techpowerup numbers and the performance gain announced in some titles, the conclusion is that the 7900XTX is only about 10% slower than the 4090 in CB2077 and WD Legion.

Of course, the methodologies must be different making the comparison invalid, but it is already a good speculative basis. I also suspect that AMD could tie or beat the 4090 by pushing the TDP far beyond the efficiency curve, but that would result in a very small advantage and the design would have to be more robust... I'm happy with the path AMD chose, must be the most surprising release in recent years.
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Pushing past the sane part of the v/f curve is what AIBs are for.

Feels like 4870 again only not quite as aggressive on price. Still the $999 part should be a nice amount faster than the $1,200 4080 16GB in raster.
 
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They actually pointed that out as a selling point..and made me laughed
They do catched up with news.

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natr0n said:
xt and xtx brings back memories of yesteryear
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don't worry, the bots and third party scalper bandit merchants will make sure none of us have one until summer 2023. it was a fun hour partying watching Lisa tear it up, but back to reality. shit.
 
ARF said:
The more I look at them (8-pin PCIe power cables), the more I appreciate them :)
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AMDoes what NvDon't - Common Sense
 
This is VAT excluded prices right? Which means around 1200€ tax included in EU for a 7900 XTX?

If so then this would mean the 7900 XTX would cost 300€ less than a 16GB 4080 while beeing more powerful, that's impressive.
 
Impressive rasterized performance
Good price
Good power efficiency
Meh RT

The only difference this generation it seems is the 4080 is way more gimped vs the 4090 than the 3080 vs the 3090 but otherwise not much difference with the two top cards other than Nvidia actually improved RT performance even further while RDNA3 only seems to have gotten a 1:1 increase vs rasterized performance.

Still not appealing to me even at 600 usd cheaper but hopefully reviews paint a better picture than amd marketing slides.

The cheaper 7900XT looks like it was originally going to be the 7800XT but they wanted to increase the price by 250 usd...
 
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I'm impressed by this card upfront. The size and connectors. AMD is asking me for 25 more Watts, rather than 125, or 275 depending on which BIOS you're using on the 4090. The 4090 size seems rather large in comparison.

Price performance and power consumption are two main focuses. 10 FPS lower average fps and saving $600 would be a win to me.
 
CallandorWoT said:
the only market for me. 165hz 165 fps ultra setting in red dead 2 with no frame drop. here i come.

ultra smooth gameplay baby. fuck RT
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Why fuck RT?
 
Ravenmaster said:
Nvidia is fucked if AMD's card can outperform the 4090 at that price.
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They don't have to, they just really need to be within 15% of Nvidia at 4k and its a HUGE win.
 
Looks about 15% slower than 4090 (as expected).

Perf is right where expected from 20% shader bump.

And, it seems MCM design did work, so competitor will either need to kiss goodbye to a chunk of market, or kiss goodbye to planned margins.
 
Upgrayedd said:
Why fuck RT?
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because its no different than the Nvidia Physx days. Physx looks great in games true, I loved it in Batman, but it made the fps so low i couldn't enjoy the game.

RT is no different. i just want smooth gameplay. just give me that first, then work on these additional things.
 
Upgrayedd said:
Why fuck RT?
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Because the only reliable result form switching it on is "it tanks your FPS".
As for visuals, even proponents of it go into "oh, it's because games didn't implement it right..."

Years after introduction RT remains a clumsy gimmick.
 
dir_d said:
They don't have to, they just really need to be within 15% of Nvidia at 4k and its a HUGE win.
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nvidia could leave the gaming market and still be fine my dudes. their money comes from AI, healthcare, data analysis, etc. we are chump change to nvidia. which is why they no longer cater to us and only the ultra rich. even though without decades of support from gamers, they wouldn't be where they are today.

funny how life works eh
 
CallandorWoT said:
nvidia could leave the gaming market and still be fine my dudes. their money comes from AI, healthcare, data analysis, etc. we are chump change to nvidia. which is why they no longer cater to us and only the ultra rich. even though without decades of support from gamers, they wouldn't be where they are today.

funny how life works eh
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AMD has CDNA for that as well they just dont make giant presentations about it like Nvida does. Granted Nvida is a bigger player in the AI scene but they arent the only one.
 
Toss said:
I predict: nvidia faster up to 20% at 4k, and slower in 1080p.
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Ravenmaster said:
Nvidia is fucked if AMD's card can outperform the 4090 at that price.
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From the numbers AMD provided, (~1.7x faster than current gen flagship) the 7900 TXT is about 13% slower than the 4090 in rasterization performance. I assume it's why they didn't actually show a comparison with the 4090. Looks like whatever they attempted to do to optimize their raytracing path didn't work, as it looks flat across the board, which is certainly disappointing from my point of view.
 
willcf15 said:
Assuming the 7900XT is indeed within shooting range of the 4080 16GB (which it seems like it should be based on silicon) and cards are available for MSRP, I'll be switching teams. Even if NVidia backs off their insane pricing, I'll be going AMD on principle because it seems like they haven't lost touch with reality (both with pricing and power draw). The cost difference will nearly cover a shiny new Freesync monitor, and the 6-year-old Gsync one I'm using now will become a long-needed secondary. Well played AMD!
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You won't regret.
I prefer by far the AMD Software interface over the NVidia setup tab+GForce Experience. I think it is much much better.

-AMD everything is under 1 SW, even Tuning, recording ect
- NVidia 1old interface for settings. then GF Experience need login I hated that.
- NVidia need also afterburner+Riva tuner
thats basically 4 different interfaces/sw to manage. It was fun at the begining.

Now I prefer the comfort/clarity of AMD, it's loaded with hundreds of settings which I love and easy to navigate and looks super nice.

Then regarding bugs and crash... Over 1 year and half on AMD, I never had any noticeable crash that I can remember.

For all these reasons if the Perf/Price is on par with NVidia, I'll 100% stay with AMD.
 
Ahhh my GPU,, hopefully.

Still a bit expensive for my liking but given the market and specifications, probably fair, I'm already looking round for something to sell lol.

Do I Neeeeed a car?! , I do have two lungs ATM I suppose, kidney anyone,. Ob-.
 
N3utro said:
This is VAT excluded prices right?
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US MSRP never includes sales tax because the latter depends on location.

AMD did not provide pricing for anywhere other than the USA today.
 
CallandorWoT said:
nvidia could leave the gaming market and still be fine my dudes. their money comes from AI, healthcare, data analysis, etc. we are chump change to nvidia. which is why they no longer cater to us and only the ultra rich. even though without decades of support from gamers, they wouldn't be where they are today.

funny how life works eh
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They are so far ahead in mindshare they can afford to price much higher than AMD.

If amd could price their cards the same as Nvidia they would. They are not giving us a 7900XTX at 1000 usd out of the kindness of their hearts.

Look at their cpu division the minute they caught up to intel prices went to $h1+.

The same will happen if they ever have overall parity with nvidia on the gpu side of things.
 
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