AMD Plans Aggressive Price Competition with Radeon RX 9000 Series

[Acesbong]

Nvidia and AMD are both for-profit companies. It's not within their interest to sell anything at a lower price than market conditions dictate. Good morning, the Easter bunny isn't real.

I know, but they need to offer a product that is mainsteam, which amd said they were targeting, the midrange. And it needs to be positioned that you would have to be a complete brainwashed idiot to buy the alternative, as AMD offering so good. For market share.
It will always be the poor relative in GPUs unless the customer base is large enough so devs have to give as much time to amd optimisation as nvidia.

Nvidia on the other hand are one of the most anti consumer companies on the planet that treat their business partners like shit and I would gladly move away from them. But they make good products and have no competition.

Are you getting paid to spread this BS around?
The GPUs are 9070 and 9070XT and not what your agenta wants to call it.
It’s against the 5070 and 5070Ti at $100-150 less.

My question is the weird one and not what you want to spread around. Ok…

Yeah lets end it. All those cards are grossly over priced, amd not aggressive enough, was my point.

 

[Zach_01]

Yeah lets end it. All those cards are grossly over priced, amd not aggressive enough, was my point.

We are going to let benchmarks to the final verdict and how they compared to previous gen and competition.
But yeah, me too would like a 7900XTX performance with +50% RT, for half the MSRP at 500$ but here we are.

 

[AusWolf]

I know, but they need to offer a product that is mainsteam, which amd said they were targeting, the midrange.

What's midrange? I thought there was no definition on it. Therefore, AMD and Nvidia can call anything midrange that they want. Your choice is whether you buy it or not.

And it needs to be positioned that you would have to be a complete brainwashed idiot to buy the alternative, as AMD offering so good. For market share.

$750 for the 5070 Ti, or $600 for the 9070 XT. If they match up in performance, then I'd say you'd have to be brainwashed to buy the 5070 Ti purely for gaming.

It will always be the poor relative in GPUs unless the customer base is large enough so devs have to give as much time to amd optimisation as nvidia.

You keep forgetting about consoles that all run on AMD.

But they make good products and have no competition.

That's just bullshit being spread around by Nvidia fans.

Yeah lets end it. All those cards are grossly over priced, amd not aggressive enough, was my point.

Why would they be more aggressive? What would be the point?

 

[calhau]

What's midrange? I thought there was no definition on it. Therefore, AMD and Nvidia can call anything midrange that they want. Your choice is whether you buy it or not.


$750 for the 5070 Ti, or $600 for the 9070 XT. If they match up in performance, then I'd say you'd have to be brainwashed to buy the 5070 Ti purely for gaming.


You keep forgetting about consoles that all run on AMD.


That's just bullshit being spread around by Nvidia fans.


Why would they be more aggressive? What would be the point?

Did the 7900xt at 650 competing with 4070ti super that at the time was 800+ make a dent in the market?

Radeon cards sold well when they had the same features, better build quality, better long term driver support and a ~20% price/pref advantage.
Now on the productivity side they are very limited, ppl that take advantage of cuda cores will go Nvidia out of necessity.
RT is beginning to get forced onto games as the only option, so RT and upscaling performance are no longer something you can brush off.

And according to AMD 9070xt is at best a 7900xt in raster with 4 less GB of memory, even if it has lot better RT and upscaling, a 50 discount doesn't look that great, if you didn't buy a 7900xt at 650 are you really buying a 9070xt at 600?

The reality of the market is this. If AMD wants to be relevant again they need a huge price advantage. In my opinion, even 30-40% less won't guarantee the market share of 10 years ago.

 

[Zach_01]

Did the 7900xt at 650 competing with 4070ti super that at the time was 800+ make a dent in the market?

Radeon cards sold well when they had the same features, better build quality, better long term driver support and a ~20% price/pref advantage.
Now on the productivity side they are very limited, ppl that take advantage of cuda cores will go Nvidia out of necessity.
RT is beginning to get forced onto games as the only option, so RT and upscaling performance are no longer something you can brush off.

And according to AMD 9070xt is at best a 7900xt in raster with 4 less GB of memory, even if it has lot better RT and upscaling, a 50 discount doesn't look that great, if you didn't buy a 7900xt at 650 are you really buying a 9070xt at 600?

The reality of the market is this. If AMD wants to be relevant again they need a huge price advantage. In my opinion, even 30-40% less won't guarantee the market share of 10 years ago.

The 9070XT more like in between 7900XT and XTX, closer to XTX on raster and 20~50% better RT again from XTX… and FSR4.
And since RT and upscalers are “in” for year 2025 and onwards it’s quite the leap from 7900XT.

 

[The Plague]

Starting at $750 for the 9070 XT, is not an aggressive price.

 

[calhau]

The 9070XT more like in between 7900XT and XTX, closer to XTX on raster and 20~50% better RT again from XTX… and FSR4.
And since RT and upscalers are “in” for year 2025 and onwards it’s quite the leap from 7900XT.

What is your source for those values? I'm basing my argument on the CES slide from AMD, as far as I know they're the only real info we have.

How do you assign a % improvement to fsr4? Image quality is intrinsical to it's quality not just FPS.

In the AMD presentation there was no reference to RT performance.

Your entire argument seems based on wishful thinking and not in any info from official or trustworthy sources.

The reality is that we will have to wait till the 28 to have any real info besides what AMD already told, and for real performance till reviews. Getting hyped on baseless speculation will only lead to a less favourable view of the product when it comes out.