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AMD Radeon RX 9070-series Pricing Leaks Courtesy of MicroCenter

This is like a thought experiment at this point, it was consensual that at 600/700$ these cards would flop hard, that these prices were too high. Now we see people accepting basically a 700$ price tag for what is essentially a 4080. The 4080 should have cost no more than 700 almost 3 years ago. This is insane.
 
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That stuff will sell. Most are not amd customers anyway who write about high prices.

Higher prices equal higher prices for used graphic cards. WIN - WIN.
 
Don't worry for 700$ msrp it will fail hard! From 90/10 to 95/5

idk, if history tells us anything, doing that AMD will probably close this gen with 5% market share or less, and the 6070ti will cost a cool 2000$ MSRP. AMD will proceed to launch a 10070xt for 1900$. Not sure why I should expect things go any different this time around.

What's the saying... Doing the same thing and expecting different results.... is the smart thing to do? no it can't be it.
 
They still will sell,

and that´s kinda bad for us (and AMD) long term?!

market share - measly, trending downwards before and i don´t see how that can change with those prices in the future
mindshare - almost lost?

I would have bought one for 550 just to stick it to - you know who

But at those prices : long live the green king i suppose :shadedshu:
 

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This is like a thought experiment at this point, it was consensual that at 600/700$ these cards would flop hard, that these prices were too high. Now we see people accepting basically a 700$ price tag for what is essentially a 4080. The 4080 should have cost no more than 700 almost 3 years ago. This is insane.
A lot depends on the performance and availability. If AMD succeeds there, that's a half win. Not meant to disagree with you, though.
 
A lot depends on the performance and availability. If AMD succeeds there, that's a half win. Not meant to disagree with you, though.

i don't think the 9070xt will be better in raster or RT than a almost 3 year old 4080 and that's the reality we have here. If the pricing is insane for Nvidia we have to use the same logic for AMD.
Wouldn't it be normal for a 5060 to match closely the 4080 and for pricing to reflect a 60 class card? we must continue the logic for AMD.
 
So why are prices from your shop relevant?

My prices "from my shop" are relevant to "maybe it is $700" discussion, are they not? :D

PS
What is there between you and Jensen Huang? I hope it is monetary.
 
My prices "from my shop" are relevant to "maybe it is $700" discussion, are they not? :D

PS
What is there between you and Jensen Huang? I hope it is monetary.
I'd hope it would be monetary.

The prices from your shop are irrelevant cause the 9070xt from your shop might be 1k or 1.5k. It's a totally irrelevant comparison. Stop being obtuse man.
 
The prices from your shop are irrelevant cause the 9070xt from your shop might be 1k or 1.5k
We are in a thread about upcoming 9070XT prices.
It is in the title, you know? :D

Now "but maybe real prices will be even higher". Sure they may.

But assuming they are like in OP, when comparing to 5070Ti pricing, we should remember "pricing in my shop" and not another portion of unhinged nonsense from creators of "8k gaming on 3090" and "5070 = 4090", mkay? :D

Let me repeat "my prices" from "my shop":

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"my shop" (the most powerful price search in Germany) :D

market share... measly
You mean the CPU market share? Yeah.

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With all the Intel fockups and even CPU shortages, all AMD got past Buldozer times is... 12% of the market share.


trending downwards

Oh, is it?
Did you mean "negative downwards" which would be upwards, perhaps?

See that spike on the left? NV was at 82%, AMD at 11.5%, that was some time in 2023.
In 2025 NV is at 75.5%, AMD at 16.4%. (not that different from CPU split)

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"And your point is?"

1) Your statements about market share are 100% bazinga that has 0% to do with reality
2) Market share is obviously controlled by "something else", which, rather obviously, is the (strongarmed) OEMs.
 
US has a bit stronger focus on MSRP pricing. Here in the Netherlands we get scalped by the shops all the time. I have ZERO expectation that anyone will be able to get a 9070XT at reference price for a long time. Right now the 5070ti is being sold by ALL shops for 1300+ Euro. But hey, at least "you can buy one".
 
We are in a thread about upcoming 9070XT prices.
It is in the title, you know? :D

Now "but maybe real prices will be even higher". Sure they may.

But assuming they are like in OP, when comparing to 5070Ti pricing, we should remember "pricing in my shop" and not another portion of unhinged nonsense from creators of "8k gaming on 3090" and "5070 = 4090", mkay? :D

Let me repeat "my prices" from "my shop":

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"my shop" (the most powerful price search in Germany) :D


You mean the CPU market share? Yeah.

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With all the Intel fockups and even CPU shortages, all AMD got past Buldozer times is... 12% of the market share.




Oh, is it?
Did you mean "negative downwards" which would be upwards, perhaps?

See that spike on the left? NV was at 82%, AMD at 11.5%, that was some time in 2023.
In 2025 NV is at 75.5%, AMD at 16.4%. (not that different from CPU split)

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"And your point is?"

1) Your statements about market share are 100% bazinga that has 0% to do with reality
2) Market share is obviously controlled by "something else", which, rather obviously, is the (strongarmed) OEMs.
So you are saying it's not infinitely more reasonable to compare microcenters 9070xt leaked prices to microcenters 5070ti prices, but instead you wanna compare microcenters price to geizhals even though they don't have any prices for the 9070xt yet. Yeap, makes sense. Kudos.

US has a bit stronger focus on MSRP pricing. Here in the Netherlands we get scalped by the shops all the time. I have ZERO expectation that anyone will be able to get a 9070XT at reference price for a long time. Right now the 5070ti is being sold by ALL shops for 1300+ Euro. But hey, at least "you can buy one".
Exactly. How in the world he thinks it makes sense to compare EU pricing with us microcenter....
 
Yep. And if you, or I want a x70-class GPU, what are we gonna buy? The expensive AMD one, or the even more expensive Nvidia one?

Or we'll just keep playing old classics on our old GPUs until sanity comes back to the IT industry, which I also don't find a totally terrible option. :)

That's the problem... Nvidia sets the market amd follows.

Now we are getting what should be a 7800XT replacment for a lot more money.

Maybe the truth is in 2025 this is the best they can do and still make a profit maybe it's not either way gamers still lose.
 
US has a bit stronger focus on MSRP pricing. Here in the Netherlands we get scalped by the shops all the time. I have ZERO expectation that anyone will be able to get a 9070XT at reference price for a long time. Right now the 5070ti is being sold by ALL shops for 1300+ Euro. But hey, at least "you can buy one".
Exactly, I'm hoping for a good enough MSRP so that my retailers' scalped price won't be an actual new born, just a couple of bloodbags instead...
French prices of the 5070Ti really are not encouraging in regards to the 70XT's street price...
 
My expectations were low and I still feel let down.
 
oh they would. they're profiteers. they will try anything AMD let's them get away with.
My two cents is that AMD has no say at all in their pricing do not blame the company for those who want massive profits
The only one with a reasonable price seems to be Asrock
But it is early we will see what the actual store prices will be, for now it is constant leaks with no actually prices at the moment and could easily be faked
 
My two cents is that AMD has no say at all in their pricing do not blame the company
AMD set the lower bound on price with how much they charge for the GPU itself. They could also set an upper bound with their agreements but they won't because they want their AIBs to be happy.
 
i don't think the 9070xt will be better in raster or RT than a almost 3 year old 4080 and that's the reality we have here. If the pricing is insane for Nvidia we have to use the same logic for AMD.
Wouldn't it be normal for a 5060 to match closely the 4080 and for pricing to reflect a 60 class card? we must continue the logic for AMD.
I am expecting 4080 level performance to be honest. But the 4080 was $1200, the 4080 Super $1000, so if the 9070 XT is $700, that's a 30% discount. Like I said, not great, not terrible.

That's the problem... Nvidia sets the market amd follows.

Now we are getting what should be a 7800XT replacment for a lot more money.

Maybe the truth is in 2025 this is the best they can do and still make a profit maybe it's not either way gamers still lose.
Let's wait for tomorrow before jumping the gun. We might be surprised. Or not.
 
Let's wait for tomorrow before jumping the gun. We might be surprised. Or not.


I don't really care what amd says tomorrow honestly and even if they show awesome slides this is the company that said zen 3 was on par with raptorlake and way oversold vanilla zen 5 gaming performance. Not to mention not being even remotely close with the 7900 series vs their slides.

As far as msrp goes it also is irrelevant if the cheapest model you can actually buy is 800-900 usd.

When amd let's W1z and other reputable publications review them and they are on store shelves I'll have final judgment.

Just like the 5070ti not too bad at 750 problem is it's not anywhere near that price.
 
I don't really care what amd says tomorrow honestly and even if they show awesome slides this is the company that said zen 3 was on par with raptorlake and way oversold vanilla zen 5 gaming performance. Not to mention not being even remotely close with the 7900 series vs their slides.

As far as msrp goes it also is irrelevant if the cheapest model you can actually buy is 800-900 usd.

When amd let's W1z and other reputable publications review them and they are on store shelves I'll have final judgment.

Just like the 5070ti not too bad at 750 problem is it's not anywhere near that price.
In that case, 5-6 March isn't too far, either.
 
In that case, 5-6 March isn't too far, either.

My hope is that it's an amazing card worth 700 usd and basically the default option over the 5070ti but if it's only 50 usd cheaper and ends up priced close to actual street pricing of the 5070ti that's a huge L for gamers honestly.

Keep in mind this is a terrible generation from Nvidia even if it was msrp vs previous generations and very 4060ti like across the stack.
 
Oh, is it?
Did you mean "negative downwards" which would be upwards, perhaps?

See that spike on the left? NV was at 82%, AMD at 11.5%, that was some time in 2023.
In 2025 NV is at 75.5%, AMD at 16.4%. (not that different from CPU split)

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Installed base is not market share.
 
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