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AMD Radeon RX 9070-series Pricing Leaks Courtesy of MicroCenter

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When you're a 3T$ market cap company, how the hell do you justify so many fuck ups on the market you've been crushingly mastering over the past decade or so other than proving you're a shitty company ?
Nvidia can justify it because people will still buy cards anyway, and they've been a shitty company for years.
A 3T$ company that already went through several generations of different standards and is leading bleeding edge technology at unprecedented scales managed to fail PCIe5 implementation (despite already having it widely applied it to datacenter cards), has humongous R&D and budget for their software division manages to have blackscreen issues that require a vBIOS update and orders so many chips for datacenter and gaming that they *accidentally* get chips on sale with less hardware than advertised ? I'm especially not buying the last one, just like that one slide with the 5070=4090 (no asterisk, no fine print, no nothing) they perfectly knew what they were doing and just ditched the defective dies in production hoping it wouldn't get noticed or that people with them wouldn't want the hassle of RMA-ing them.
All of the issues Blackwell is going through are inexcusable, and Nvidia hasn't put out a public report on the missing ROPs so they're already getting a free pass for it, and for the power connectors still melting even though Nvidia claimed it was fixed.
The gaming market is only 10% of revenue for Nvidia, with "AI PC" included so who knows how much of it is gaming, or OEM sales. With the issues they're having with Blackwell it's obvious the budget is being shifted away from R&D and the gaming market. When AMD has bad drivers people reletenlessly condem them for it.
I don't know enough about that one particular point
A significant reason why EVGA stopped making GPUs is because they weren't making any margins with the 30 series, because Nvidia has been undercutting their own partners with the FE cards since the GTX 10 series.
In addition to that, Nvidia was making record profits off miners, and EVGA tried to do the right thing by selling GPU's closer to MSRP and lost money doing so. And I can only assume they seen it coming with the 40 series melting power connectors. Gamers Nexus has videos on why EVGA left the market, but geforce buyers still deny the leather jacket man having any blame on contributing to killing off the AIB with the best customer support.
Does it have to ? All we need it to do is deliver solid performance for an acceptable price, which Nvidia has completed disregarded altogether with RTX50, even when the 5070/60Ti/60 drops, I'm pretty sure 3-4 different things about them are going to make them look particularly mediocre and nuke Nvidia's image on the gaming/content creation market (at this point I'm not even sure Nvidia cares anymore and is looking for a pretext to only make AI accelerator card)
I agree, it doesn't have to, all the 9070XT needs to do is sell for MSRP, and if it sells for even close to MSRP, AMD has the chance to grab some sales away from Nvidia.
I mean, idk man, we've seen leaked retailers picture of existing stock since mid January in different countries so... :shrug:
AMD would've had to mess up really badly to not have plenty of stock ready for launch, but I guess we'll see.
 

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Guys are we expecting the 9070 XT be available at MSRP at launch in the US? I have no experience getting a GPU on day 1 but everything I'm reading is doom's day tales.
 
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Guys are we expecting the 9070 XT be available at MSRP at launch in the US? I have no experience getting a GPU on day 1 but everything I'm reading is doom's day tales.

Wait till we see listing if 80-90% of models are listed well above msrp the chance will be 0 becuase those more expensive models will be prioritized.

Personally I expect most XT models to be priced from 800-900 usd but we don't have long to find out.
 

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Wait till we see listing if 80-90% of models are listed well above msrp the chance will be 0 becuase those more expensive models will be prioritized.

Personally I expect most XT models to be priced from 800-900 usd but we don't have long to find out.

What manufacturers and/or retailer would you keep an eye out if you were hoping to get 1 at MSRP? Some manufacturers are known for only selling "premium" or OC variants well above msrp.
 
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What manufacturers and/or retailer would you keep an eye out if you were hoping to get 1 at MSRP? Some manufacturers are known for only selling "premium" or OC variants well above msrp.

Unfortunately AMD has ditched the MBA for this release so it's hard to say I'd look at a couple models you like and honestly wait till they hit a price you're comfortable with once Nvidia fixes its stock issues with the 70 series it should be easy to get one near msrp. Don't feel pressured to get one right away is probably your best ally.

If there is an aib that sticks closer to msrp definitely reward them with your business but in pre listing's I've seen asrock was the only one but until we see official listing's in a couple days impossible to know.
 
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Right now

RTX 5070 already listed for 883€
RTX 5070 Ti ~ 1200€
RTX 5080 ~ 1600€
RTX 5090 ~ 3058€
RTX 4070 ~ 575€
RTX 4070 Super ~ 710€
RTX 4070 Ti Super ~ 950€
RTX 4080 Super ~ 1200€

RX 7800 XT ~ 457€
RX 7900 GRE ~ 605€
RX 7900 XT ~ 669€
RX 7900 XTX ~ 907€


AMD as always shows better numbers.

Guys are we expecting the 9070 XT be available at MSRP at launch in the US? I have no experience getting a GPU on day 1 but everything I'm reading is doom's day tales.
If it's more than 50$ over msrp just don't buy it.
 
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Guys are we expecting the 9070 XT be available at MSRP at launch in the US? I have no experience getting a GPU on day 1 but everything I'm reading is doom's day tales.
There should be some at MSRP but only boost to 2900Mhz. The other cards that are not at MSRP will be able to boost from 3000mhz to over 3200Mhz. What we really want to see is how the board partners are going to power limit the OE chip. Will we be able to over clock to 3200mhz? We will find out soon.
 
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What manufacturers and/or retailer would you keep an eye out if you were hoping to get 1 at MSRP? Some manufacturers are known for only selling "premium" or OC variants well above msrp.
All of them look kind of premium to me this time. Even the Sapphire Pulse, which is usually an MSRP card, is 3 slots wide now. You/We will have to look at shops and see real prices, I'm afraid.
 
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Anyone remembers for how much RX 7800 XT was going at the start ? If i'm not mistaken it was 550-600€ first weeks..... ?
 
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