AMD Ryzen X3D Processors are Popular with TPU Readers, 23% Market Share: Poll Results

[btarunr]

AMD Ryzen processors with 3D Vertical Cache technology, denoted with the "X3D" brand extension on processor model numbers, are showing unexpected popularity numbers with close to a quarter of respondents to a TechPowerUp Frontpage Poll question saying that they use one. In August, we asked our readers if they use a Ryzen X3D processor. The question was "Are you using an AMD Ryzen X3D CPU with 3D V-Cache?" This was a few months into the launch of the Ryzen 7000X3D processor series that restored the gaming performance leadership for AMD against Intel's 13th Gen Core "Raptor Lake" processors.

Since the poll went live in August, we've seen 31,862 responses. From these, 14,732, or 46% say that they use a classic Ryzen processor (one without 3D V-cache). followed by 9,780 or 31% saying they use an Intel processor; an impressive 4,316 or 14% saying they use a Socket AM4 Ryzen 5000X3D series processor (5800X3D or 5600X3D); followed by 3,034 or 10% saying they use the latest 7000X3D series "Zen 4" processors. The X3D series together make 7,350 votes, or 23%.



The 3D Vertical Cache technology involves enlarging the last-level L3 cache of the processor by stacking the serious of the processor's 7 nm "Zen 3" or 5 nm "Zen 4" CPU core die (CCD) with a 64 MB L3 cache die (L3D) built on the 6 nm process. This die operates at the same performance as the on-die 32 MB L3 cache, and hence adds to it as a 96 MB continuously addressable cache block visible to software. This large amount of fast memory sitting close to the CPU cores allows a larger amount of game data to be stored at a significantly faster storage medium than the DDR4/DDR5 main memory, resulting in tangible gaming performance improvements. Depending on the game, these range anywhere between -2% to 23%.

The Ryzen 7 5800X3D is an exceptionally popular processor, as it allows those on the older Socket AM4 platform to achieve gaming performance on-par with a newer desktop powered by a Core i9-12900K "Alder Lake" processor (around 15% to 20% higher gaming performance than a regular 5800X). AMD's first Ryzen 7000 processors roughly match the 5800X3D in gaming performance despite lacking 3D V-cache, on the backs of improved IPC of the "Zen 4" cores, and faster DDR5 memory, but were swiftly beaten by the 13th Gen Core "Raptor Lake." AMD responded with the 7000X3D processors, which restore the gaming performance leadership over the 13th Gen, with the 7800X3D in particular being the fastest gaming processor that's widely available.

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[BoboOOZ]

I don't see why they are "surprisingly" popular, they have many qualities: improved gaming performance, improved monothreaded performance for cache heavy applications, good efficiency and decent price, they must be a good choice for many people.

 

[ViperXTR]

im just waiting for prizes to come down more and ill grab me one o those stacked caches as well

 

[dj-electric]

Usually where hardware enthusiasts hang out, there's a higher percentage of hardware enthusiast typical hardware. These statistics are unsurprising.

 

[ratirt]

I think the majority would have chosen AM5 and the X3D Ryzen 7000 series as their rig for gaming from various reasons. I've been thinking about upgrading to a 7800x3d but since i got a 6900 xt, I will wait and maybe next year I can upgrade if I get a faster graphics. Maybe the 5800x3d would work for me but since the new CPUs are relatively cheap, not sure if I will invest in the AM4. Might just kick things up a notch and get myself the 7000 series or wait and see what the new gen Ryzen will offer.

 

[Nostras]

I'm especially surprised by the Intel/AMD ratio. I'm well aware the ratio is much improved for AMD for enthusiasts, but I didn't expect AMD to go well over 50%.
Especially considering in practice it's much closer to 20/80.

AMD and Intel CPU Market Share Report: Recovery on the Horizon (Updated)

Hope is on the horizon, mostly.

www.tomshardware.com

 

[Jeager]

@Nostras AMD for enthusiasts is skyrocketing since Ryzen. Even if everything isnt perfect they did a great job this time. (I have the same motherboard since 6 years now for the first time!)

What is surprisingly surprising is the fact than btarunr think most of TPU readers are sheeps to buy overexpensive intel air fryers.
I feel insulted

 

[AnarchoPrimitiv]

I'm especially surprised by the Intel/AMD ratio. I'm well aware the ratio is much improved for AMD for enthusiasts, but I didn't expect AMD to go well over 50%.
Especially considering in practice it's much closer to 20/80.

AMD and Intel CPU Market Share Report: Recovery on the Horizon (Updated)

Hope is on the horizon, mostly.

www.tomshardware.com

It quite the interesting difference, bit it makes sense.....if you read anything on consumer psychology, you quickly find out that the vast majority of consumers do NOT make rational.decisions based on empirical data, they make choices based on how they "feel", and I guarantee that a large portion of Intel's marketshare comes from average consumers who just continue to buy Intel because it's what they've always bought or it's what they recognize.

Now, arguably, TPU users are more educated on the products than your average consumer and are probably comparing empirical data, but what's most interesting is how TPU users so drastically differ from typical consumers (who obviously buys intel)....it would be really interesting to study how each group makes their decisions and on what criteria.

 

[Ruru]

I was thinking of getting a 5800X3D, but went for a normal 5800X as I got this with pretty cheap.

 

[Thimblewad]

Got a 5800X3D for 300€ in Slovenia (from Amazon.de). Great upgrade from my 5600X. Started my AM4 journey with a Ryzen 1700, upgraded to a 5600X and now to a 5800X3D. 6 years, same platform.

Edit: Kinda have to update my sig now

 

[QuietBob]

Now that CS2 is out I'm expecting the 5800X3D/7800X3D to become a popular choice with competitive gamers as well:

 

[P4-630]

Intel i7 12700K all P-cores @ 5GHz here.
Still good enough for me.

No plans going AMD.

 

[Dragam1337]

Now that CS2 is out I'm expecting the 5800X3D/7800X3D to become a popular choice with competitive gamers as well:

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Ya wanna stay away from E-waste core cpu's for gaming anyways... they cause terrible frametime consistency, which is reflected in the 0.1% lows. You're practically always better off disabling E-waste cores for gaming, along with the igpu, meaning you end up only using about 20% of the die... talk about waste of resources.

 

[sLowEnd]

Polls without any proper voter validation are worthless

 

[Daven]

Polls without any proper voter validation are worthless

You should learn how to aggregate across multiple sources. So unless you really don't care in which case this discussion won’t go far, you can see the big picture by looking at online store review totals/sales numbers, the steam hardware survey, tech review site polls and market analyst reports. By themselves the data from these sources are worthless but taken together, actual market share numbers can be divined.

In my summation, the market for NEW desktop CPU sales is reaching a 40/60% split between AMD and Intel respectively.

 

[W1zzard]

I don't see why they are "surprisingly" popular

The global average of X3D usage is much lower, nobody denies that. Our results show 25% which is "surprisingly high" compared to such a global average

We love X3D, many of our staff members have bought them with their own money

I feel insulted

Nobody wanted to insult anyone, we've reworded it to "unexpected"

 

[hs4]

The shape of the market also has something to do with the difficulty in increasing AMD's share.

Intel produces in its own Fabs, and due to depreciation, it is more profitable to sell at a reduced price than to lower the Fab's utilization rate. On the other hand, AMD outsources production to foundries and competes with Apple, nVidia, and Qualcomm for auctions for production slots, so if it wants to increase production it will have to bid higher (i.e. the manufacturing cost per die increases.).

AMD's share increased the most during the period of Intel 14nm vs TSMC N7, but even if it produced CCDs with GF 14nm, which can be mass-produced at a lower cost, it would not have been able to increase its share. At the same time, possibility to increase its share with N7 was limited because of production cost. In order to increase it, a high bid was required. AMD is still selling Zen2 and Zen3 to increase production, but they can't compete with Rpator lake and are only competing with E-core-only CPUs.

The Z1 extreme is an attractive CPU, but it is produced exclusively in small batches by manufacturers who "produce as many parts as they can get". This is probably because they are unable to meet the demands of Dell and HP, which demand a large number of products.

 

[FiRe]

This poll/chart says the exact opposite, they're least popular

 

[BoboOOZ]

The global average of X3D usage is much lower, nobody denies that. Our results show 25% which is "surprisingly high" compared to such a global average

We love X3D, many of our staff members have bought them with their own money


Nobody wanted to insult anyone, we've reworded it to "unexpected"

I think Jeager was just joking . In any case this is an enthusiast forum, so users should derive from the average.

 

[freeagent]

Intel i7 12700K all P-cores @ 5GHz here.
Still good enough for me.

No plans going AMD.

The only reason why I went AMD is because Intel had their 10th and 11th gen stuff out at the time, pretty weak.

X3D is pretty good if you are a dedicated gamer.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Currently 8600k, but i am AM5 in spirit until the budget gets sorted out.

 

[AusWolf]

14% of TPU readers use one single processor model. That's impressive!

 

[Space Lynx]

I voted no in that poll and ended up getting a 5600x3d anyway, couldn't change that vote though.

I plan to upgrade to 8800x3d next year when it launches and sell my 5600x3d on here shortly after.

 

[phanbuey]

It's kind of like going to whole foods and asking people if they prefer vegan options.

Most TPU readers are gamers -- among gamers I would think that share is pretty average. X3D is the best at gaming, but is expensive and struggles at everything else.

When you aggregate in the larger market you're bringing in a ton of user types who either don't care about x3d at all/know it exists/don't game etc. so that share will drop massively.

 

[AusWolf]

X3D is the best at gaming, but is expensive and struggles at everything else.

Like what?

When you aggregate in the larger market you're bringing in a ton of user types who either don't care about x3d at all/know it exists/don't game etc. so that share will drop massively.

Yeah, TPU readers are a special kind of enthusiast group. It's still an impressive ratio, though.