AMD Software Adrenalin 23.7.1 WHQL Released

[Od1sseas]

Two months for this crap.
This driver causes crashing in Last of Us and Metro Exodus Enhanced. The control panel size also doesn't save.
I'm tired with this shit.

 

[DanielAron]

It’s probably not an idle measurement. Wouldn’t be surprised if it’s an unwanted background task or browser using HW acceleration.

i don't know really.. Maybe task manager or adrenaline? Or snippet?

 

[QuietBob]

They definitely curbed idle power consumption in general. On my single 4K60 display the lowest I'd seen before was 10 W. This is with the current driver:

And guys, idle does not mean "I'll just stop whatever I'm doing for a sec and check the value now". What you'll see is momentary usage, which will always be higher. Try watching this figure for a few minutes and see how low it drops, or use HWinfo to record the minimum. Open browser, minimized app windows, stuff running in the background, game launchers, online communicators, etc. will all add up to your power consumption.

And please have a look at my RAM utilization. It's less than 1 GB @ 4K with only Adrenalin running.

 

[DanielAron]

It’s probably not an idle measurement. Wouldn’t be surprised if it’s an unwanted background task or browser using HW acceleration.

I really don't know.. Maybe task manager, adrenaline or snippet tool?

 

[rv8000]

I really don't know.. Maybe task manager, adrenaline or snippet tool?

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I’ll install when I’m home from work. I’ll check running 4k120 on my 48” C2 and see if I get similar results.

*Even better, my wire view from TG came in, I’ll check the HW readout vs adrenaline/gpuz too.

 

[QuietBob]

I really don't know

GPGPU at work. What are you computing?

 

[DanielAron]

GPGPU at work. What are you computing?

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That was AMD noise suppression, off now.

 

[Lionheart]

Why is your VRam clock so high?

My question exactly, and no I don't mine, no idea how to.

 

[kapone32]

My question exactly, and no I don't mine, no idea how to.

What programs do you have in the Start Menu? as I can see that your GPU clock is also on. Do you have Icue or some other Hardware log running. This might seem crazy but it could also be your Cable. Not all Cables are made equal.

 

[rv8000]

I really don't know.. Maybe task manager, adrenaline or snippet tool?

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So after checking a few things, not really one to one results because I was running YouTube to check things and then changed PCI express power settings.

23.5.2

1 monitor 1440p240 - 18w

1 monitor 4k120 - 98w

2 monitors 1440p240 1080p75 - 94w

3 monitors 1440p240 1080p75 4k120 - 94w

23.7.1

1 monitor 1440p240 (power plan edit) - 11w

1 monitor 4k120 (power plan edit) - 13-17w

1 monitor 1440p240 (ppedit with youtube) - 48-60w

1 monitor 4k120 (ppedit with youtube) - 48-60w

2 monitor 1440p240 4k120 (ppedit with youtube) - 58-66w

3 monitors (ppedit with youtube) - 104w

First interesting tidbit, adrenaline seems to increase idle power usage; my guess is HW acceleration used for their monitoring software and graph plotting. Use only GPUZ or maybe Hwinfo - instantly dropped 15-20w depending on monitor number.

Second thing, and I haven’t tested impact on gaming performance, try enabling maximum power savings on the pcie setting in the power plan; this may have other effects I’m unaware of at the time but it drastically reduces idle/youtube power consumption by 20-40w.

Third, either my gpu/AMDs driver hates my 1080p monitor, or the hdmi cable I’m using for it is terrible. Side note my 48” c2 is hooked up via an optical hdmi cable.

 

[DanielAron]

So after checking a few things, not really one to one results because I was running YouTube to check things and then changed PCI express power settings.

23.5.2

1 monitor 1440p240 - 18w

1 monitor 4k120 - 98w

2 monitors 1440p240 1080p75 - 94w

3 monitors 1440p240 1080p75 4k120 - 94w

23.7.1

1 monitor 1440p240 (power plan edit) - 11w

1 monitor 4k120 (power plan edit) - 13-17w

1 monitor 1440p240 (ppedit with youtube) - 48-60w

1 monitor 4k120 (ppedit with youtube) - 48-60w

2 monitor 1440p240 4k120 (ppedit with youtube) - 58-66w

3 monitors (ppedit with youtube) - 104w

First interesting tidbit, adrenaline seems to increase idle power usage; my guess is HW acceleration used for their monitoring software and graph plotting. Use only GPUZ or maybe Hwinfo - instantly dropped 15-20w depending on monitor number.

Second thing, and I haven’t tested impact on gaming performance, try enabling maximum power savings on the pcie setting in the power plan; this may have other effects I’m unaware of at the time but it drastically reduces idle/youtube power consumption by 20-40w.

Third, either my gpu/AMDs driver hates my 1080p monitor, or the hdmi cable I’m using for it is terrible. Side note my 48” c2 is hooked up via an optical hdmi cable.

I got my power draw down to "normal" in all resolutions at 60 Hz without AMD noise suppression (I had that active earlier) , but still high 90-100w in 120 Hz. Tried a different HDMI 2.1 cable and changing the power plan, but same results. Have anybody tried 4k 120Hz with HDMI 2.1 vs DP? I only have one monitor, and it that doesn't have DP.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

On a 7900XT with one 4K60 monitor and everything including Icue closed(it uses GPU too) using Gpuz to monitor.

My idle power over night was 6watts with the pc truly idle just running CPU F@h

Watching YouTube ups that to 30/40watts.

 

[rv8000]

I got my power draw down to "normal" in all resolutions at 60 Hz without AMD noise suppression (I had that active earlier) , but still high 90-100w in 120 Hz. Tried a different HDMI 2.1 cable and changing the power plan, but same results. Have anybody tried 4k 120Hz with HDMI 2.1 vs DP? I only have one monitor, and it that doesn't have DP.

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Did you simply upgrade from 23.5.2 to 23.7.1? I used DDU before installing. Might help. Also don’t use Arenalin for power monitoring, try gpuz or Hwinfo and see if it’s any different for idle measurements.

 

[DanielAron]

Did you simply upgrade from 23.5.2 to 23.7.1? I used DDU before installing. Might help. Also don’t use Arenalin for power monitoring, try gpuz or Hwinfo and see if it’s any different for idle measurements.

I used DDU, and gpuz shows 90w. It's only high power use when I use 120Hz on my display

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Be sure what is running, this 34 watt higher load is just icue.

 

[brink]

summary: wow quite an improvement, at least for my setup.
(Q: why not at release time half year ago? ;-))

GPU: Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 7900 XT Vapor-X

Monitors:
Samsung LS43AM700UUXEN via HDMI
LG OLED48CX9LB via HDMI

focused window hwinfo64, TBP line, 2s refresh

old driver 23.5.2:

Samsung alone OR LG alone:
1x 4K60 8bpc RGB ~11+W

Both (mem clock at max!):
2x 4K60 8bpc RGB ~75W
1x 4K60 8bpc RGB + 1x 4K120 8bpc RGB ~75W

LG alone:
1x 4K120 8bpc RGB ~17W
1x 4K120 10bpc RGB ~17W

new driver 23.7.1:

Samsung alone OR LG alone:
1x 4K60 8bpc RGB ~7W

Both:
2x 4K60 8bpc RGB ~9+W
1x 4K60 8bpc RGB + 1x 4K120 8bpc RGB ~18+W

LG alone:
1x 4K120 8bpc RGB ~11+W
1x 4K120 10bpc RGB ~11+W

 

[Minus Infinity]

Two months for this crap.
This driver causes crashing in Last of Us and Metro Exodus Enhanced. The control panel size also doesn't save.
I'm tired with this shit.

I find I have no problems as long as I use DDU to uninstall drivers in safe mode with no networking. I make sure to download drivers from AMD before I uninstall and after running DDU, I make sure no internet, reboot and install drivers and only then turn back on network. I have had issues several times doing a normal install via the AMD control panel and all were fixed by doing it the slightly more tedious way.

 

[Od1sseas]

I find I have no problems as long as I use DDU to uninstall drivers in safe mode with no networking. I make sure to download drivers from AMD before I uninstall and after running DDU, I make sure no internet, reboot and install drivers and only then turn back on network. I have had issues several times doing a normal install via the AMD control panel and all were fixed by doing it the slightly more tedious way.

I always use DDU as well (In Safe Mode). Same issues.
I re-installed 23.5.2 and everything is fine again so it's definitely the drivers.

 

[brink]

I always use DDU as well (In Safe Mode). Same issues.
I re-installed 23.5.2 and everything is fine again so it's definitely the drivers.

interestingly, I never used ddu. it was never necessary. I keep on updating all the drivers. I even transitioned through different amd gpus without ddu. rx 6900 xt - rx 6600 - rx 7900 xt.

what I also always do when installing new drivers. I close the window with "not restart". close all my windows. and just do normal restart.

but.. on my win 10 home, I deactivated swap (I have 64gig ram) and hibernate. especially with hibernate I had immediate problems since my new pc with 5950x 2y ago.
so I always deactivate hibernate after installing my/friends pcs.

powercfg.exe /hibernate off

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

I always just install through the driver and as ever had no issues.

 

[sLowEnd]

I always just install through the driver and as ever had no issues.

Same here

 

[INSTG8R]

Just gonna weigh in here on the VRAM usage. I also have it. It’s down to high refresh rate Monitors.
As @DanielAron discovered lowering his refresh rate to 60hz.
I don’t like anymore than anyone else as a single high refresh monitor user(144hz)
I believe even Windows itself is giving a warning somewhere about higher refresh may consume more power(don‘t quote me on that but the warning IS somewhere
I’m not 100% sure on these publics if Factory Install has been reenabled again yet but it is a WAY better option than using DDU now. I’m on betas where its still available but if anyone could give me any confirmation on it(I usually install the Publics just to check against my Beta Branch anyway at some point)
Ah yes there it is

 

[Marcus L]

Just gonna weigh in here on the VRAM usage. I also have it. It’s down to high refresh rate Monitors.
As @DanielAron discovered lowering his refresh rate to 60hz.
I don’t like anymore than anyone else as a single high refresh monitor user(144hz)
I believe even Windows itself is giving a warning somewhere about higher refresh may consume more power(don‘t quote me on that but the warning IS somewhere
I’m not 100% sure on these publics if Factory Install has been reenabled again yet but it is a WAY better option than using DDU now. I’m on betas where its still available but if anyone could give me any confirmation on it(I usually install the Publics just to check against my Beta Branch anyway at some point)
Ah yes there it is
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The problem is, it's random, someone can run 4k/120hz and have the high idel usage and another person with a different setup but same 4k/120 have the lower idle, I run 1080p165hz and have had high idle usage, was using a may 22 driver for months until it got fixed, not had the issue since then but it is persisting for some users regardless, that said AMD are still releasing fixes for it with several different drivers so no it's still an issue for some while for other it has actually been fixed

 

[INSTG8R]

The problem is, it's random, someone can run 4k/120hz and have the high idel usage and another person with a different setup but same 4k/120 have the lower idle, I run 1080p165hz and have had high idle usage, was using a may 22 driver for months until it got fixed, not had the issue since then but it is persisting for some users regardless, that said AMD are still releasing fixes for it with several different drivers so no it's still an issue for some while for other it has actually been fixed

I absolutely agree. For example I was just watching mine for a few minutes and it was bouncing between 1300 and my max 2240.
The funniest thing is while it running the ram at full speed on my desktop 95% of the time if say open Discord it drops to like 900 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Now granted I am on a different driver than you this issue is as you say persisted in certain configurations for quite some time.

Like for example right now I dropped my refresh from 144 to 60 my VRAM usage dropped to 900/30W. I bump it back up to 144 it jumps back up to 1340/36W

 

[kapone32]

I absolutely agree. For example I was just watching mine for a few minutes and it was bouncing between 1300 and my max 2240.
The funniest thing is while it running the ram at full speed on my desktop 95% of the time if say open Discord it drops to like 900 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Now granted I am on a different driver than you this issue is as you say persisted in certain configurations for quite some time.

Like for example right now I dropped my refresh from 144 to 60 my VRAM usage dropped to 900/30W. I bump it back up to 144 it jumps back up to 1340/36W

This is also random. I run a 4K 144hz monitor with no issues in terms of power draw. I posted my results above.