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[entropy13]

And I was definitely not disappointed with Gundam Unicorn.

Shame though that I was unable to continue Darker than Black season 2 lol

 

[Wile E]

I just saw the 1080p version and its definitely worth it...
http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/oo142/Partspicts/SaberTriumphantExcalibur_GSC-300x30.jpg



Last night I saw Sola...kind of like Air but to me quite a bit better. While the ending was bittersweet it was well done and the anime was just great to watch..

(the 2 OVAs were a huge waste of time)

The 720p Thora encodes of Fate Stay are actually better than the 1080p rips floating around out there. The 1080p is an upscale by the company that released the BD's.

 

[TheLaughingMan]

1080P for anime right now is a gimmick. No anime is original created in 1080P HD. There are only a few that are 720P truthfully. 99.9% of anime on Blu-ray is unscaled from the 480P source. Blu-ray for anime in general is pointless as it is cheaper to buy on DVD and let my Blu-ray player upscale it on the fly.

 

[Wile E]

1080P for anime right now is a gimmick. No anime is original created in 1080P HD. There are only a few that are 720P truthfully. 99.9% of anime on Blu-ray is unscaled from the 480P source. Blu-ray for anime in general is pointless as it is cheaper to buy on DVD and let my Blu-ray player upscale it on the fly.

Actually, quite a few are 1080p. The difference is very clear. The anime that was originally done on real film generally transfers to HD very well, and benefits from going to 1080p. It's a toss up on the digitally created stuff of the past few years. Most are originally made in more than DVD quality tho.

The older stuff, not so much. Most of the 90's anime would be pointless in BluRay, except if they wanted to get more episodes on the disc, or remaster the sound with a higher quality sound track, or maybe just better subs. Picture quality wouldn't change much tho. Just the supporting goodies.

You could fit an entire season on a single BD with room to spare. I think that would be awesome. Could save as money as well. 1 BD usually releases for around $30 vs $40 or more for a 1 season box set of DVD's.

 

[MKmods]

I dont know enough to contribute here... But I DO notice some of the stuff just looks amazing on the 24"..And some like LM said even though it says 1080p looks just average...

For what I am paying for most of my anime I have no right to complain (so I dont) But when it comes to buying anime there are a few that I would definitely pay the premium price for higher quality...

Thanks Wile E for the heads up on Fate Stay Night..

(im a bit dense when it comes to the whole 720/1080p stuff)

 

[djisas]

Actually, quite a few are 1080p. The difference is very clear. The anime that was originally done on real film generally transfers to HD very well, and benefits from going to 1080p. It's a toss up on the digitally created stuff of the past few years. Most are originally made in more than DVD quality tho.

The older stuff, not so much. Most of the 90's anime would be pointless in BluRay, except if they wanted to get more episodes on the disc, or remaster the sound with a higher quality sound track, or maybe just better subs. Picture quality wouldn't change much tho. Just the supporting goodies.

You could fit an entire season on a single BD with room to spare. I think that would be awesome. Could save as money as well. 1 BD usually releases for around $30 vs $40 or more for a 1 season box set of DVD's.

Unless they digitally remaster the video like they did with akira spending "Originally released in the U.S. by Streamline Pictures in 1990. A decade later, Pioneer Entertainment (now Geneon Entertainment) obtained the license to AKIRA and spent roughly $1 million in restoring the film's audio and video quality, as well as recording an all-new, more accurate English dub."

 

[Mussels]

i'm with wile E, most anime is done in 720p. there are some big name ones (naruto, bleach) that arent - and you can tell, since they always look like shit.

 

[TheLaughingMan]

To date, only anime released in very recent years even have a chance of being done in HD, most contemporary anime is still produced in 480p resolution. All other anime is SD and blu-ray copies are just unscaled transfers. So you are just paying more money with Blu-rays with exceptions to Ghost in the Shell 2.0, Gundam 00, and a short list of other titles.

Honestly, difference in the quality is almost none existence for most anime, and the few that are different, aren't different enough for me. My opinion is based on Gundam 00 as I watched it in 720P HD.

Read More details:

http://www.animenation.net/blog/2010/02/17/ask-john-to-bd-or-not-to-bd/

 

[Mussels]

To date, only anime released in very recent years even have a chance of being done in HD, most contemporary anime is still produced in 480p resolution. All other anime is SD and blu-ray copies are just unscaled transfers. So you are just paying more money with Blu-rays with exceptions to Ghost in the Shell 2.0, Gundam 00, and a short list of other titles.

Honestly, difference in the quality is almost none existence for most anime, and the few that are different, aren't different enough for me. My opinion is based on Gundam 00 as I watched it in 720P HD.

Read More details:

http://www.animenation.net/blog/2010/02/17/ask-john-to-bd-or-not-to-bd/

considering my 6TB+ collection of anime, i assure you of one thing: most of them are NOT upscaled. they look far, far cleaner, less blurry, and you dont see any signs that they've been deinterlaced - progessive signal from the start.

 

[TheLaughingMan]

Well 480p is progressive, it is just a matter of scale for difference. I didn't say they didn't clean them up, I just said the original source for them is mostly done in 480p. Sadly, production of anime has not accepted Blu-ray as cost is still to high for them. The anime industry is saving money where it can right now. I personal see the difference, I give you that. I just personal didn't see enough difference in the shows I have seen in 720p to justify buying in Blu-ray yet.

I respect you Mussels, but if I have to put your 6TB of anime up against John's 30+ years, collection ranging in the 5 digits, personal history with him for the last 8 years, and his, I have no idea how many, years on the supply side of anime, I am going to go with him.

P.S. My opinion of the quality of the DVD's are a little unfair as I watch them all on on a PS3 with the Upscaler ON.

 

[MKmods]

Read More details:

http://www.animenation.net/blog/2010/02/17/ask-john-to-bd-or-not-to-bd/

Thanks LM for that link, It had a bunch of good info.

I guess there really isant enough detail in anime to warrant 1080p in most cases, but having a ton of eps on 1 disk is cool.

I still dont have a BD player yet (and Im sure 99% of comp users are similar in that respect)
(I keep meaning to get one but keep buying stupid GPUs instead)

I have seen a few animes that just blow me away (but I am retarded trying to remember names)

Freedom, Akira and Eden of the East are 3 that look really good to me

I am nuttso for Fate Stay Night but the 1080p one I got looks like it was shot through cheese cloth (still watched it 3 times, lol) Im gonna get the one Wile E mentioned and check it out...


when I see words like "Upscale, Progressive, deinterlaced or progressive signal" it may as well be Bla bla bla bla...(thats all I understand)

But im working on it...

 

[kid41212003]

You should get the PS3 imo.

Bluray + Games are cool.

 

[Wile E]

Sharpness is not the proper factor in comparing the differences in HD and SD, details are what are important. Too much filtering on an SD source, and you can actually lose details going to HD. You can just set your player to upscale and sharpen if you are after sharpness. That's why upscales to 1080p are so criticized by videophiles.

720p is where most HD anime looks best, with the exception of the few titles that are actually produced in 1080p. If the distribution houses would quit using so many damn filters on the film sources, they would likely benefit from 1080p as well, considering that film has a higher natural resolution than 1080p. That, of course, also depends on how much detail the original drawing had.

 

[TheLaughingMan]

You should get the PS3 imo.

Bluray + Games are cool.

Even if you don't game, a PS3 has one of the best DVD upscalers on the market and will act as a HTPC to some extent. The one in my apartment is not mine, but it is the only reason my HTPC is still in my room....which may not last much longer due to lack of Open Source format support (which is free Sony, free).

 

[Wile E]

Even if you don't game, a PS3 has one of the best DVD upscalers on the market and will act as a HTPC to some extent. The one in my apartment is not mine, but it is the only reason my HTPC is still in my room....which may not last much longer due to lack of Open Source format support (which is free Sony, free).

I use ps3media server, and it transcodes everything on the fly. Works best with a wired network tho.

 

[Mussels]

Well 480p is progressive, it is just a matter of scale for difference. I didn't say they didn't clean them up, I just said the original source for them is mostly done in 480p. Sadly, production of anime has not accepted Blu-ray as cost is still to high for them. The anime industry is saving money where it can right now. I personal see the difference, I give you that. I just personal didn't see enough difference in the shows I have seen in 720p to justify buying in Blu-ray yet.

I respect you Mussels, but if I have to put your 6TB of anime up against John's 30+ years, collection ranging in the 5 digits, personal history with him for the last 8 years, and his, I have no idea how many, years on the supply side of anime, I am going to go with him.

P.S. My opinion of the quality of the DVD's are a little unfair as I watch them all on on a PS3 with the Upscaler ON.

most TV sources (and even DVD's) are 480i/576i. they have to be converted to progressive... and you can always tell when thats happened.

 

[TheLaughingMan]

most TV sources (and even DVD's) are 480i/576i. they have to be converted to progressive... and you can always tell when thats happened.

Very true. but the original production sources used for DVD's are mostly 480p (max resolution for DVD and for many years all that was needed).

I guess as reference: My TV is 32" 720p, and PS3 is set to play everything in 720p (native res. for TV) which includes games, movies, anime, etc. I try to avoid upscaling 480i/576i for the exact reason Mussels said earlier, it can make things blurry.

 

[entropy13]

The difference is that screenshot doesn't really um...differentiates besides the increase in quality. I can't find the screenshot of Sumeragi's ass compared in DVD and in Blu-Ray... LOL

 

[Mussels]

yeah, screenshots cant show the quality difference - movement is where it shows up best.

 

[entropy13]

Finally made some progress with Darker than Black season 2.

Pedobear would kill to have JulyXSuou LOL

 

[TheLaughingMan]

The difference is that screenshot doesn't really um...differentiates besides the increase in quality. I can't find the screenshot of Sumeragi's ass compared in DVD and in Blu-Ray... LOL

I would go to war for her any day. If that is what I had to look forward to coming back to, I will fight planet Earth by myself if need be.

And the pic is not really an example example. John sticks images like that at the top of every article to attract attention to it. It is an Animenation.com thing.

 

[Cold Storm]

Just watched Episode 46 of Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood. My god... The next few episodes will be GREAT! Man... It's coming down..

 

[KieX]

Just watched Episode 46 of Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood. My god... The next few episodes will be GREAT! Man... It's coming down..

I'm up to date after an intense weeked You're so right! Next episodes are going to be HUGE!

 

[Cold Storm]

I'm up to date after an intense weeked You're so right! Next episodes are going to be HUGE!

Yeah, it was pretty good.

I'm just glad in this one they made Ed seem his age and not some "short shrimp"

 

[KieX]

Yeah, big change on Ed.

Spoiler

Actually ever since Winry says "was Ed's back always that long?" you can see the series is making a man out of him (more and more like his farther even?), rather than the "beansprout"

Can't wait! I want MOAR!