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Same here, I've been playing guitar for 15 years now and while I do love it, especially on to the end of writing/producing music, I find that a lot of non musicians don't get why I don't "do something with that." And it's just as you said, I don't go that route because I know it's not really contributing anything. I'm decently skilled and I can spin a nice tune, but nothing is really lost if I don't make it big. I always answer with "When I come up with something nobody's ever heard, I'll try it." In the meantime, I'll keep to myself and just enjoy expressing myself and exploring the songwriting process.

Off topic, that's a big thing in music right now. So much more to choose from, and so many artists to seek out, but not a whole lot of tact or substance to go around. With the dissolution of the whole record label model and the rise of bedroom producers, there are a whole fuckton of pretty okay musicians trying to make a living off of a copy of a copy of a copy. No more chart toppers. Only servicable records that are "good for what it is." You've got [genre] band a,b,c... a1, a2... z65, z66... That's not the kind of life I want for myself lol... ...to be "that guy who sounds like those guys."

Almost 30 years of playing here. Heh. But I'm no shredder (I'm a better bass player actually.. but it's not what I love).

Sidenote: I think my first realization came when I heard My Chemical Romance. What's funny is that I don't even listen to this band, but when I heard them, I said, "Shit, I would have done something similar.. but they did it better." For the longest time, I had always wanted to see something theatric on the level of Queen and Kiss.. but the punk sensibility of the Glenn Danzig. And it turned out to be My Chemical Romance.

They seem to be kind of forgotten themselves now, but I'd dare say they were the last great rock band.. before everything went Gaga/Autotune/or Hip Hop focused.
 
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Almost 30 years of playing here. Heh. But I'm no shredder (I'm a better bass player actually.. but it's not what I love).

Sidenote: I think my first realization came when I heard My Chemical Romance. What's funny is that I don't even listen to this band, but when I heard them, I said, "Shit, I would have done something similar.. but they did it better." For the longest time, I had always wanted to see something theatric on the level of Queen and Kiss.. but the punk sensibility of the Glenn Danzig. And it turned out to be My Chemical Romance.

They seem to be kind of forgotten themselves now, but I'd dare say they were the last great rock band.. before everything went Gaga/Autotune/or Hip Hop focused.
Haha, that's happened to me so many goddamned times now. When I still had dreams and silly things like that I used to hear stuff that would make me want to quit completely pretty regularly.

Never was big on MCR - back then I was bigger on SOAD and Nirvana if we're talking mainstream. But I respect what they managed to pull off, musically and otherwise. They ruled! Those dudes were all part of the last good era of really amazing superstar rock behemoths... ...you just don't see these big global acts in rock anymore. I'm just glad I got to witness it. People born too late for that period may never know what a rock god truly is. The business doesn't work that way anymore. Even I didn't realize back then how special and important that was for music.

I've noticed technical skill doesn't matter much anymore. Well it does, but there's no standing out for it. Look at progressive metal these days. Everyone is doing just the craziest, most technical stuff imaginable. And every day some guy records something nobody's ever pulled off right from his buddy's couch. Posts it on youtube and gets 1mil views in a day. And yet it doesn't matter. It's kind of a losing battle for everyone in that it's no longer enough just to be reheeeallly fuckin good. It doesn't get the same attention when everyone around you is insanely good and practicing 8hrs a day. You could have more skill than Guthrie Govan and nobody would care all that much now.

It's not like back when Van Halen put out their first record and everyone was just like "What is THAT?! Holy HELL what IS this shit?!" THAT was like space ships just shot into the sky at a mile a second with fuckin crazy lookin shiny stuff and laser beams spinning around and just mesmerized people. So fast you had to slow the tape down to begin to learn it. Nobody had any heard anything like it.

It's kinda gotten to the point now where if you wanna make it, you need to be good at everything AND bring something new. You can't bet on one thing.

I think whatever it is you're doing, you make it not just because you really want it and you work really hard to be better than everyone else and you just want to be noticed. That's not enough. It's when you know you've got something truly special and different that you make those kinds of moves. People will notice that every time. If you don't have that something, only mediocrity and failure await. You're going to spend a lot of time banging your head against a wall for maybe a little success... until you become bitter and never want to pick up an instrument again.

Nothing wrong with just being local, playing solo gigs, covers and whatnot, ya know? It doesn't make you any less of a musician. Just kind of a matter of what makes it most worth it for you, music as a whole, and everyone else. Do what you love and sometimes people notice you. Other times they don't. Doesn't actually matter. If you like what you're doing then it's as it should be. If you hate it, it's a grind, and you want to quit all of the time, then you've got the wrong attitude and you're making the wrong choices.

Everybody wants to be a superstar these days... ...a top musician, a famous youtuber, a rap mogul, a genius filmmaker, whatever. Like you have to get there if you wanna do those things or you're a failure. I think if that's the only thing that makes those things worth doing for you, then you're probably not doing them for the right reasons. And your art will probably suffer for it, as will your love and passion for it. Maybe if you wasted less time chasing rainbows and more just focusing solely on the thing you love doing, you might have actually come up with something worth sharing! To walk alongside genius, you have to be able to admit to yourself that you are not.

Shouldn't have got me started on music, man. :p
 
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Haha, that's happened to me so many goddamned times now. When I still had dreams and silly things like that I used to hear stuff that would make me want to quit completely pretty regularly.

Never was big on MCR - back then I was bigger on SOAD and Nirvana if we're talking mainstream. But I respect what they managed to pull off, musically and otherwise. They ruled! Those dudes were all part of the last good era of really amazing superstar rock behemoths... ...you just don't see these big global acts in rock anymore. I'm just glad I got to witness it. People born too late for that period may never know what a rock god truly is. The business doesn't work that way anymore. Even I didn't realize back then how special and important that was for music.

I've noticed technical skill doesn't matter much anymore. Well it does, but there's no standing out for it. Look at progressive metal these days. Everyone is doing just the craziest, most technical stuff imaginable. And every day some guy records something nobody's ever pulled off right from his buddy's couch. Posts it on youtube and gets 1mil views in a day. And yet it doesn't matter. It's kind of a losing battle for everyone in that it's no longer enough just to be reheeeallly fuckin good. It doesn't get the same attention when everyone around you is insanely good and practicing 8hrs a day. You could have more skill than Guthrie Govan and nobody would care all that much now.

It's not like back when Van Halen put out their first record and everyone was just like "What is THAT?! Holy HELL what IS this shit?!" THAT was like space ships just shot into the sky at a mile a second with fuckin crazy lookin shiny stuff and laser beams spinning around and just mesmerized people. So fast you had to slow the tape down to begin to learn it. Nobody had any heard anything like it.

It's kinda gotten to the point now where if you wanna make it, you need to be good at everything AND bring something new.

I think whatever it is you're doing, you make it not just because you really want it and you work really hard to be better than everyone else and you just want to be noticed. That's not enough. It's when you know you've got something truly special and different that you make those kinds of moves. People will notice that every time. If you don't have that something, only mediocrity and failure await. You're going to spend a lot of time banging your head against a wall for maybe a little success... until you become bitter and never want to pick up an instrument again.

Nothing wrong with just being local, playing solo gigs, covers and whatnot, ya know? It doesn't make you any less of a musician. Just kind of a matter of what makes it most worth it for you, music as a whole, and everyone else. Do what you love and sometimes people notice you. Other times they don't. Doesn't actually matter. If you like what you're doing then it's as it should be. If you hate it, it's a grind, and you want to quit all of the time, then you've got the wrong attitude and you're making the wrong choices.

Everybody wants to be a superstar these days... ...a top musician, a famous youtuber, a rap mogul, a genius filmmaker, whatever. Like you have to get there if you wanna do those things or you're a failure. I think if that's the only thing that makes those things worth doing for you, then you're probably not doing them for the right reasons. And your art will probably suffer for it, as will your love and passion for it. Maybe if you wasted less time chasing rainbows and just focusing solely on the thing you love doing, you might have actually come up with something worth sharing! To walk alongside genius, you have to be able to admit to yourself that you are not.

Shouldn't have got me started on music, man. :p

Haha.. Well, it's not that I'm into them myself. More like they were into the same things I was (and roughly the same age).. and just encapsulated it better.

One of my favorite bands is Television. People don't think "Punk" and "guitar gods" in the same sentence, but that's the one punk band that had not one, but two guitar gods. Criminally forgotten.. but they were the guys who built the stage for CBGB's. Something came to mind though.. towards the end of the 70s, another band came up... the Cars. Everyone knows the Cars, but doesn't know Television. I remember reading an interview with one of the members of Television saying when they heard the Cars, they knew it was over. They sounded like Television, but were more digestable and catchy. That's kind of what I mean above.
 
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Haha.. Well, it's not that I'm into them myself. More like they were into the same things I was (and roughly the same age).. and just encapsulated it better.

One of my favorite bands is Television. People don't think "Punk" and "guitar gods" in the same sentence, but that's the one punk band that had not one, but two guitar gods. Criminally forgotten.. but they were the guys who built the stage for CBGB's. Something came to mind though.. towards the end of the 70s, another band came up... the Cars. Everyone knows the Cars, but doesn't know Television. I remember reading an interview with one of the members of Television saying when they heard the Cars, they knew it was over. They sounded like Television, but were more digestable and catchy. That's kind of what I mean above.
Ahh. Yeah I suppose that's an inevitability of all art when there's progress to be made.

That kinda ties into the point I was making about anime - it sort of applies to everything. When something is really truly good and worthwhile, it doesn't matter if somebody 1-ups it. It still stands and people still remember it. Maybe not directly, but the one thing you can feel really good about is you did something that opened up a new path for greatness. It had a traveling impact. You're a vital part of the natural progression at that point.

Don't see that kind of thing in anime, now. Just a lot of imitators adding nothing to what they imitate.
 
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I don't mind lack of technicality btw.. My actual favorite shredder (don't laugh) is Steve Stevens. Billy Idol's guitarist. Heh. He's definitely technical if he has to be, but he doesn't really show it in a lot of songs (you'd have to go to his solo material). What makes him stand out is he serves the songs he's in.. rather than himself. But he brings some technicality to it, and it sounds simple at first... until you learn them and realize his phrasing is beyond what normal guitar players do. I just love that shit.. It's what I love about Jimmy Page too. His riffs aren't as simple as they sound at first.


edit: lol sorry for the derail

Speaking of anime again, one theme I actually wish to see tapped into more is cyberpunk. You'd think anime is rife with it, but it's actually not surprisingly.
 
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I don't mind lack of technicality btw.. My actual favorite shredder (don't laugh) is Steve Stevens. Billy Idol's guitarist. Heh. He's definitely technical if he has to be, but he doesn't really show it in a lot of songs (you'd have to go to his solo material). What makes him stand out is he serves the songs he's in.. rather than himself. But he brings some technicality to it, and it sounds simple at first... until you learn them and realize his phrasing is beyond what normal guitar players do. I just love that shit.. It's what I love about Jimmy Page too. His riffs aren't as simple as they sound at first.


edit: lol sorry for the derail
No, I think it's normal for most musicians to realize that technicality isn't everything. It also depends on what you call "technical" too. Is it speed/complexity? What about touch? I like listening to really technical stuff when I wanna be amped or I just feel like honing in and trying to learn something - musically it's all very fascinating to pick at. But otherwise I prefer "feel" players. I would argue that taking that steadier, more compositional approach actually takes just as much skill. Everything has to count - it's all done for a clear reason. David Gilmour isn't a very flashy guitarist and his leads are ridiculously simple, but they're fuckin POWERFUL. Jimmy Page is a lot like that too. Everything is perfectly constructed. I wonder how much time it took to work out those first few passages in Stairway to Heaven. I think that in order come up with stuff like that, you really gotta live with the music in your head. A shredder with good theory knowledge can improvise all day long and just crank out solos that all sound "correct." While others might spend as much time on a few simple passages as a shredder spends polishing-up a technique to use on all of their solos. Takes the same amount of work, but the former gives better results imo.

It works for me, too. I used to idolize technical players - always aspiring for greater technical prowess. I was getting pretty impressive but honestly, I couldn't stand to play like that sometimes. Sounded cool, but it was missing something and I was losing interest in guitar altogether. Just felt like, I had all of these techniques and tricks to pull out, but I wasn't really doing anything. That's actually how I hear a lot of technical music, now. Pointless. Technique is a tool, not the end goal. It exists to showcase the melody or idea behind it. Some people seem to think of melody as a backdrop for technicality. A lot of those technical players out there now are really impressive but sometimes I think they wouldn't even know how to write a really catchy/compelling passage, let alone song. Their songs sound more like cool riff, cool riff, cool riff, and so on. They're basically interchangable. Just a combination of skill and maybe some interesting textures. It can still be done with all of the technique still there, but often their abilities go underutilized. All of the ability in the world, but little sense of how to use it in a composition. I'm not talking about the top guys - I think they get it. Everyone below them working up to it seem to miss the point that learning all of these crazy techniques is supposed to enable them to tap into more ideas and convey a greater sense of depth - like adding colors to a palette. You're not supposed to show all of the colors in the palette off at once!

A shredder practices the same thing until they wanna puke, while a feel player finds things he can't stop playing and learns to love them more as they develop from session to session, something that keeps coming back to them. That's how he knows he's got something - if hearing it is making him feel good, it can make others feel good, too.

When I started to realize this, I practiced less, but I played a whole lot more. Never practice, but I always play a lot. I stopped learning techniques just to have them around - instead I learn them as the music in my head dictates. I sit and I feel things out until I strike a nerve, then build on that sound. I lost some of the dazzle, but all in all my playing actually improved a lot and I actually like the stuff I play. When you take the time to understand composition and melody... ...like beyond the bare theory and going into what sorts of moves evoke what sorts of emotions, why they do that, and all of the different textures and flavors involved, your music gets more diverse and you naturally wanna hang back a little more often. Vibe and ambiance are really delicate things. You learn when to keep it simple to avoid killing them. Your average listener is going to relate more to something with feel than they are a wall of technique.

I have one friend who's been playing as long as I and he's insanely talented, but I've never heard him write anything beyond really cool riffs. And then he hears what I sloppily string together and he's just in awe of it, like it's some great mystery how I do more with less. Told him a million times, "Yer overdoing it, dude!" I've really tried to teach him but now he finds he can't resist the temptation to go too far in when he gets stuck working on a passage. It's such an easy out. Don't know how to make it a tangible melodic narrative? Just start tapping and sweeping! :p

It's like a fundamental rule of socializing that when two musicians meet, it all becomes about music, to the point that all other conversation in the room gets devoured.

Speaking of anime again, one theme I actually wish to see tapped into more is cyberpunk. You'd think anime is rife with it, but it's actually not surprisingly.
Oyez. I'm in a constant state of being surprised that there isn't much sci-fi. I'd love to see a good sci-fi done these days. I mean, we have Ghost in the Shell, Texhnolyze, and a few others that did very well. Surely there has to be enough appeal. So many shows have sci-fi elements, and yet somehow there are no gritty, straight-up cyberpunk dystopian shows. They're always played squeaky clean. That or they're actually fantasy shows in a futuristic setting, which isn't the same imo.

I fuckin love Ghost in the Shell, especially the first film. Why nobody else tries to take a serious go at the genre is beyond me. Maybe nobody has the mind for it. Come to think of it, I haven't seen anything recently that really gave me the impression that anybody even could pull it off.
 
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Off topic but..I remember watching this OVA called Space Armageddon,I watched it in english years ago and funny enough the animation looked very similar to japanese animation but it was korean.
Decent movie to watch though if anyone was interested, I need watch AoT today as I didn't get chance yesterday.
Bubblegum crisis was a interesting one to check out in terms of cyperpunk theme,it is old though but definitely worth checking out.
 

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Off topic but..I remember watching this OVA called Space Armageddon,I watched it in english years ago and funny enough the animation looked very similar to japanese animation but it was korean.
Decent movie to watch though if anyone was interested, I need watch AoT today as I didn't get chance yesterday.
Bubblegum crisis was a interesting one to check out in terms of cyperpunk theme,it is old though but definitely worth checking out.
Been awhile since BGC... I need to recheck it ;)
 
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Been awhile since BGC... I need to recheck it ;)
I need to give it a proper watch someday, i've seen promo videos back on my old DVDs but never got round to watching them.
Watched AoT and it is literally civil war like in Marvel and Walking Dead.
 
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Bubblegum is cool, and it's spin off (AD Police? forgot it's name), but it's also a bit quirky. I need a fix for more Bladerunner-ish or GiTS like stuff (I guess the Tachikoma are quirky too though).
 
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Another day, another episode of AoT. Wasn't bad, but I'm not sure I like where this is going.
 
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Another day, another episode of AoT. Wasn't bad, but I'm not sure I like where this is going.

Decided to stop at ep 2 and just wait for the end. When do seasons usually end, just so I know?
 

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Speaking of music clones -- I almost became an pre 2008 Opeth clone. I was just so heavily influenced by them in mind and soul that anything i played would be somewhat inspired. use of cadences, and odd chord shapes/progressions and ambience...

Back on topic...

Anyone ever seen SPIRIT HERO WATARU?? its some funky stuff -- It has comedy and mecha in it. I think they were one of my first ventures into the mecha genres. its old but its cool AF


Transformations -- Special moves/attacks


I was nerding over this shit when i was a kid.

A cousin of my had the transformable gunpla models and my god was i so jealous.


You can watch the second series here though I dont know if the first series exists on the same website.
 
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Speaking of music clones -- I almost became an pre 2008 Opeth clone. I was just so heavily influenced by them in mind and soul that anything i played would be somewhat inspired. use of cadences, and odd chord shapes/progressions and ambience...

Makes me wonder if that was the case with many bands in the past that sounded like the Beatles, but didn't mean to (they simply had the same influences.. like Everly Brothers mixed with blues or something). Or all of those bands that sounded like Pearl Jam in the 90s.. lol. Like they didn't set out to do that, but had listened to a lot of the same stuff that led to that.
 
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Decided to stop at ep 2 and just wait for the end. When do seasons usually end, just so I know?
This season is supposed to have 24 episodes I think so that would be right around the end of the year?
 

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Makes me wonder if that was the case with many bands in the past that sounded like the Beatles, but didn't mean to (they simply had the same influences.. like Everly Brothers mixed with blues or something). Or all of those bands that sounded like Pearl Jam in the 90s.. lol. Like they didn't set out to do that, but had listened to a lot of the same stuff that led to that.

I think. back i those days the music scene wasnt as saturated with half as many bands as there is today so to be inspired by another band/group or artist was more of an honor and everyone just seemed less anal about bands ripping off other bands. If a new band sounds like MCR or GreenDay or another popularist mainstream band, then they would have their faces ripped off them by a horde of angry fans for plagiarism as well as the band who inspired them.
 
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I think. back i those days the music scene wasnt as saturated with half as many bands as there is today so to be inspired by another band/group or artist was more of an honor and everyone just seemed less anal about bands ripping off other bands. If a new band sounds like MCR or GreenDay or another popularist mainstream band, then they would have their faces ripped off them by a horde of angry fans for plagiarism as well as the band who inspired them.

Well, for the record, when I mentioned MCR earlier, I need to reiterate that I'm not that big of a fan. More of an eye-opening thing when I heard them and could see they liked the same stuff. For the longest time, I always looked at that album cover for the Misfits "Walk Among Us" and thought how much potential they had, if they only had the opportunities of Kiss or something. Walk Among Us is actually their worst album imho.. and only only has a couple of good tracks. They never really nailed a whole album or cohesive vision.. they're just full of great singles scattered about and had cool personas. I always wanted to be or see a band that took up where they left off. A mix of punk and theatrics. But I also always liked conceptual and rock "opera" type of bands like Queen too. And MCR pretty much did this.

GWAR is another band that somewhat captures what I wished I did... but for metal.

edit: Speaking of, GWAR should have got a whole anime series :p

 

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Well, for the record, when I mentioned MCR earlier, I need to reiterate that I'm not that big of a fan. More of an eye-opening thing when I heard them and could see they liked the same stuff. For the longest time, I always looked at that album cover for the Misfits "Walk Among Us" and thought how much potential they had, if they only had the opportunities of Kiss or something. Walk Among Us is actually their worst album imho.. and only only has a couple of good tracks. They never really nailed a whole album or cohesive vision.. they're just full of great singles scattered about and had cool personas. I always wanted to be or see a band that took up where they left off. A mix of punk and theatrics. But I also always liked conceptual and rock "opera" type of bands like Queen too. And MCR pretty much did this.

GWAR is another band that somewhat captures what I wished I did... but for metal.

edit: Speaking of, GWAR should have got a whole anime series :p



it was just an example. I was part of an 'experimental' band, who were heavily influenced by Ska-Punk, other bands like The Smiths and Jeff Buckley. Somehow I ended up being the guitarist and adding some of my own metal influences :p

Though I think I pissed our front man off quite a bit. Id start playing some opeth stuff when we were having a jam or when i was just noodling during rehearsals and he'd think that id written it lol. Back then my influences were In Flames, Opeth, Clutch (The Southern Rock band), Alter bridge/Mark Tremonti and Cream/Eric Clapton.

Crazy days.
 
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it was just an example. I was part of an 'experimental' band, who were heavily influenced by Ska-Punk, other bands like The Smiths and Jeff Buckley. Somehow I ended up being the guitarist and adding some of my own metal influences :p

Though I think I pissed our front man off quite a bit. Id start playing some opeth stuff when we were having a jam or when i was just noodling during rehearsals and he'd think that id written it lol. Back then my influences were In Flames, Opeth, Clutch (The Southern Rock band), Alter bridge/Mark Tremonti and Cream/Eric Clapton.

Crazy days.

Sounds difficult actually? :D Did it last long? I mean, you're probably much better than me if you switched mindsets easily. As much as I like bands like Opeth and In Flames, it's always been too percussive for me play well. I think I spent too much time alone as a guitarist... which sort of unconsciously makes you fill in the gaps and layer your riffs with textures and melodies (like Johnny Mar or Buckley, as your band was shooting for). Those type of metal guitarists always seem to think more like drummers or had a drummer with them...and don't fill in all of those gaps. If that makes sense?
 

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Sounds difficult actually? :D Did it last long? I mean, you're probably much better than me if you switched mindsets easily. As much as I like bands like Opeth and In Flames, it's always been too percussive for me play well. I think I spent too much time alone as a guitarist... which sort of unconsciously makes you fill in the gaps and layer your riffs with textures and melodies (like Johnny Mar or Buckley, as your band was shooting for). Those type of metal guitarists always seem to think more like drummers or had a drummer with them...and don't fill in all of those gaps. If that makes sense?

we were at it for around 4 years till our frontman got signed by an agent while he was out performing with one of his side projects... we pretty much all called it a day after that as he was too busy working with his other band.

I never claimed to be a great guitarist or to know what i was doing -- Im not a fast player. I cant shred or do a lot of fancy guitar stuffs so a lot of my playing was mainly rhythm playing with the odd solo when required, with a lot of ambience with effects like chorus/delay and other stuffs.

Rather than working as an independent like a lead guitarist, I worked more as a unit in tandem with the other guys if you know what i mean? I was influenced by them bands but that doesnt mean i know how to play like they do :laugh::laugh: I just pick up some traits and characteristics here and there and add them to my playing without really thinking. The Eric Clapton stuff was harder as I never really did much blues playing as i was self taught.

I learnt by listening and watching what others played and shaped my own playing around it
 
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Very nice tribute to the legend Koji Kawa.
 
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How can steins;gate 0 pack such heavy punches?
 
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How can steins;gate 0 pack such heavy punches?

What do you mean? Or are you replying to someone?

I'm just going to avoid it myself. The first one was Gold. I wish not to ruin that!

Speaking of being on a quest for cyberpunk-ish stuff, has anyone seen Megalobox? It's a new "sports" anime (or reboot of an old one), but takes place in the future in a dystopian sort of setting. I'll probably check that out later.
 
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The last episode of s;g0...
You see that coming, it still hurts like hell.

I'm at episode 2 of Megalobox, seems great so far.
 
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AoT pacing..i love it so much.
 
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