OFFICIAL Armored Warfare (Discussion)

[GreiverBlade]

mmhhhh that's a banshee just how i like them ....

 

[tabascosauz]

mmhhhh that's a banshee just how i like them ....
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But it's stilll not the same challenge as before old 30K banshee is never coming back

Maybe that Ramka-99 player should have just stuck to MBTs like the rest of his clan

 

[Flogger23m]

Edit: Fuck it.

Still have two of those E3 codes though if anyone wants one.

 

[ne6togadno]

http://store.steampowered.com/app/379980

 

[GreiverBlade]

http://store.steampowered.com/app/379980

you don't say ... (since i love VN ... ) i got it quite a while ago because of my Android game PanzerWaltz


just for laugh ... Mirava can be really funny ... (PanzerWaltz xD ) it's a IS-2 (finally got it after some time of grinding )


IS-2 :

 

[Michalrutek]

I finally came to this point... the most important choice I have to do... What retrofits do I put on my Chieftain Mk.6?

Just kidding
I know what to put...


Well, now for the actual news... The grind is over, and with a bit of gold I finally am able to say... it is over, the Cent 120 has done it, 475000 reputation and a token for a single tier 9 vehicle was granted to me!


I want to thank all of you for the great results you had in your matches, making me want to become better in this game
Thanks to all of you in the Battalion who join me in battles as a platoon
Special thanks to @GreiverBlade For showing me the forums. And to @tabascosauz for his great results that made me want the Tank destroyers even more!

And for that you earned an award... a picture of, A RED PANDA!

 

[tabascosauz]

I want to thank all of you for the great results you had in your matches, making me want to become better in this game
Thanks to all of you in the Battalion who join me in battles as a platoon
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We gladly do it for a good teammate like you bud

Congratulations on gaining entry to the tier 9 club! Looks like TPU platoon is back together, eh? (well not this week because I'm working 8-6 every day and you guys are only on when it's 9am)

2A6 I presume? Then we can have the holy trifecta going on (Griev's Chally 2 / M1A2, your 2A6 and my BMPT-72) or underdogging in Griev's T10 games.

 

[Michalrutek]

We gladly do it for a good teammate like you bud

Congratulations on gaining entry to the tier 9 club! Looks like TPU platoon is back together, eh? (well not this week because I'm working 8-6 every day and you guys are only on when it's 9am)

2A6 I presume? Then we can have the holy trifecta going on (Griev's Chally 2 / M1A2, your 2A6 and my BMPT-72) or underdogging in Griev's T10 games.

Yeah, I was thinking about getting the Leo2A6 and when I finish the Mgs I would get the Draco

 

[GreiverBlade]

Yeah, I was thinking about getting the Leo2A6 and when I finish the Mgs I would get the Draco

CRAB at 80% : 2A7-140 in the way (no freaking way i would take a XM1A3 after a CRAB ... after the M1A2 maybe )

(Griev's Chally 2 / M1A2, your 2A6 and my BMPT-72) or underdogging in Griev's T10 games.

aherm actual 9-10 rooster = CRAB M1A2 PL-01 SPHINX (chally 2 COME BACK!!! ) need to save up money for the 2A7-140 ... (17mio atm )

 

[GreiverBlade]

ahhh finally a blue on CRAB ... (more like i didn't expected it ... by the play of the mission ) and 725 rep above the 2nd (ok 21k spotdmg )


heloooooo! (reversed spot dmg and dmg??? )



POP! (yep right! MBT ESPACE upgrade right out of the box )



OK i have my new favorite MBT ... not even full upgrade and i LOVE it!
not too shabby for a second try (1st one was a Prometheus ... got hindered by some ..."oh sorry i passed in front of you" ) highlight : a 1216dmg on a Warrior with a LAHAT


altho i think my 2A7 has some issue with the back of the turret (that and the batt logo not showing up )

backturret solved ... once the gun upgraded to 140 (though that's sad to loose the LAHAT ... since 140mm is only APFSDS and HE ... blerch ... oh well full 44 APFSDS )

 

[tabascosauz]

@Michalrutek I just remembered what I realized a few months ago -

If you get the 2A6 and unlock the EX Armor package (which mirrors Leopard 2E and 2HEL up-armoring schemes), and get the rust-colored desert pattern without any base paint, you can kinda get a Leo 2HEL look going on.

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Yes, I know I love patriotism it's too bad that in order to be patriotic to my own country I'd have to get rid of the EX Armor package and put on no camo


Also, who's Gneckes?

 

[tabascosauz]

 

[GreiverBlade]

@Michalrutek I just remembered what I realized a few months ago -

If you get the 2A6 and unlock the EX Armor package (which mirrors Leopard 2E and 2HEL up-armoring schemes), and get the rust-colored desert pattern without any base paint, you can kinda get a Leo 2HEL look going on.

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Yes, I know I love patriotism it's too bad that in order to be patriotic to my own country I'd have to get rid of the EX Armor package and put on no camo


Also, who's Gneckes?

he has the 2A6 and he's good with it

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aherm .... i bought right out of the box the MBT ESPACE and 140mm exp canon ...rebought the Ramka-99 and the last engine upgrade on it... which mean i am down to 1,666mio but that was worth it

but yep 4mio for a engine is ... (except for the Ramka... or PzH 2000 ... last engine upgrade is .... worth )



and also Gneckes is a new one but not a very talkative type ... i got some mission with him but he tend to prefer playing with a friend that i told him he could invite in the battalion.... none to avail it seems.

Buch Metter, the lack of armor on the back of the turret was bugging me

 

[Michalrutek]

@Michalrutek I just remembered what I realized a few months ago -

If you get the 2A6 and unlock the EX Armor package (which mirrors Leopard 2E and 2HEL up-armoring schemes), and get the rust-colored desert pattern without any base paint, you can kinda get a Leo 2HEL look going on.

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Yes, I know I love patriotism it's too bad that in order to be patriotic to my own country I'd have to get rid of the EX Armor package and put on no camo

So, you want me to have the Greek variant of the Leo? The camo looks great, since here they don't use the military vehicles, the only paint them. also a random fact, I have seen this tank in particular when it broke down in the middle of the road after a parade.

 

[GreiverBlade]

mowing down a Chally 2 ATDU (upgraded iirc), full frontal pen only (drivers hatch) with 5 shots (2 on the move ), to oblivion and taking no dmg at all?

done... and also while playing hide'n seek with the Chally 2 on my back right (other where focused on main objective defense )


i have to say ... AOUCH! 1st time i go above 40k .... (ok it was 1 T8 3 T9 ... and me )and 6247 baserep ... maharf


PS: what a Monster the 2A7-140 is, funny enough the only ESPACE demonstrator was based on a Leo 2A4 which make it a Pz87 ESPACE upgrade to me YAY for Patriotisme

 

[tabascosauz]

they don't use the military vehicles, they only paint them

Though I have to say the 2A4 and 2HEL camo scheme are some of the best looking camo I've ever seen on an armored vehicle. So not only can you be prepared against external threats (Turkey) you can look good while doing it

i have to say ... AOUCH! 1st time i go above 40k .... (ok it was 1 T8 3 T9 ... and me )and 6247 baserep ... maharf
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PS: what a Monster the 2A7-140 is, funny enough the only ESPACE demonstrator was based on a Leo 2A4 which make it a Pz87 ESPACE upgrade to me YAY for Patriotisme

40K and 6200 base rep damn!

I really wish they didn't have the ESPACE upgrade though; it looks futuristic and all so I know why they chose it but to me the KMW-manufactured 2A7+ kit looks better (the 2A4M CAN armor is the exact same as the actual 2A7+ just with a special cutout for the 2A4-style front sight). Something about the rivets, dunno.

Someday I'll finish the 2A6 and probably move onto the XM1A3. Can't resist playing the tank with the best gun handling in the game and happens to be the only properly-proportioned Abrams in the game.

 

[GreiverBlade]

40K and 6200 base rep damn!

I really wish they didn't have the ESPACE upgrade though; it looks futuristic and all so I know why they chose it but to me the KMW-manufactured 2A7+ kit looks better (the 2A4M CAN armor is the exact same as the actual 2A7+ just with a special cutout for the 2A4-style front sight). Something about the rivets, dunno.

for me the ESPACE is downright ugly (kinda look like a overfeed PL-01) tho it make it more resilient.

Can't resist playing the tank with the best gun handling in the game .

that'd be the 2A7-140 .... snapshot, moving and staying precise well the RH120 always have been superior to license built type (luckily iirc the 140mm of the abe is local design ...)

also
"The Leopard 2A7-140 is comparable to the XM1A3, another universal MBT. Both vehicles have armor upgrades and 140mm guns as their top weapons, but where the XM1A3 is somewhat better protected, thanks to its explosive reactive armor, has an improved APS and is more agile in its top configuration, the Leopard 2A7 accelerates faster and has more durable suspension.

The 140mm guns of the Leopard and the XM1A3 offer approximately similar handling, the same penetration and damage per shot, but the Leopard 2A7 can fire faster in its top configuration and can fire guided missiles and HE shells from its stock 120mm gun, while the XM1A3 has to rely on APFSDS and HEAT shells for both guns. Thanks to its technology upgrades, the Leopard 2A7-140 is more accurate on the move, while the XM1A3 can upgrade overall accuracy by using the Improved Laser Rangefinder module, but not by as much.

The Leopard performs well in nearly all situations and can be a tough nut to crack. However, its side and rear turret armor are vulnerable to even light opponents, making flanking a viable tactic against this MBT."
the last sentence is totally true and being aware of the surrounding is mandatory

and happens to be the only properly-proportioned Abrams in the game.

true that ...

nonetheless it's funny that the most worldwidely adopted "modern" MBT are Leo 2 series ...(Canadian where clever in that sense) i wonder about the Abe, does they want to keep it for themselves or ... it's just that nobody else want it
to me the Abe is inferior to the Leo 2 (tho i like the M1A2 ) in game and in reality (altho i reckon, that in real life, it's the crews of the Abe make it shine)

last but not least i would have prefered the Leo 2 MBT Evo II or even the Pz87WE (RUAG armor kit) than a hypotetical 2A7 whose armor upgrade is based of the 2A4 demonstrator

 

[tabascosauz]

for me the ESPACE is downright ugly (kinda look like a overfeed PL-01) tho it make it more resilient.

nonetheless it's funny that the most worldwidely adopted "modern" MBT are Leo 2 series ...(Canadian where clever in that sense) i wonder about the Abe, does they want to keep it for themselves or ... it's just that nobody else want it
to me the Abe is inferior to the Leo 2 (tho i like the M1A2 ) in game and in reality (altho i reckon, that in real life, it's the crews of the Abe make it shine)

last but not least i would have prefered the Leo 2 MBT Evo II or even the Pz87WE (RUAG armor kit) than a hypotetical 2A7 whose armor upgrade is based of the 2A4 demonstrator

Funny you should bring that up. Canada and US have always had a very special relationship military-wise. The decision to get 2A6M over M1 was probably due to cost and unit requirements since the US never sells the Abrams to anyone in quantities less than a hundred except for Australia, and even Australia has 3 times the number of tanks as Canada. I'm guessing the 2A4Ms were the same story (only about 20 actually up-armoured to 2A7+ standard by KMW, the rest just plain 2A4 or combat engineering), all about the $$$. If we had the money to splurge on ~200 non-monkey-model M1A2s, I'm guessing the Americans would gladly sell it to us (hell, if sell DU-equipped M1A2 to Kuwait why not their northern neighbour)?

We could go on forever about which tank is superior which is pretty pointless but I'd like to think of modern Abrams and foreign 2A6 and beyond Leopards as being equally good, in different areas. The reason I say foreign 2A6 only is because based on some pretty in-depth analysis on a site I've forgotten, it was shown that up-armoured Leopards such as Spain's Leopard 2E or Greece's Leopard 2HEL have virtually no weakspots on the front due to the up-armouring; however the German Heer version of the 2A6 and 2A7 have the signature large weak rectangular driver's hatch thingy. The uparmoured Pz 87 is also real awesome and covers the frontal weakspot as well. I think this is represented in AW but not even AW conveys just how thin the driver hatch is on Leo 2 compared to other front armor (also old 2A4 gunner sight makes that part of the turret front weak too, AW does not show this with damage).

I guess it comes down to application. Even though the M829 rounds offer really high performance, the Abrams is still best for urban applications from its DU meshes and extensive TUSK kit. On the other hand I guess the Leo 2 is still the tank you want when fighting in Western Europe because of its gun, frontal armor and ridiculous speed. Canada's 2A6 was so good because much of Afghanistan is open terrain; the Marines deployed only a dozen M1A1s to Afghanistan. Where M1 really shone was Iraq because of claustrophobic urban support missions. And even though TUSK was relatively rare amongst tanks, still managed to stand up to AT weapons without the ERA. Still, the Leopard 2 has never actually seen any tank-tank combat unlike the M1, even if the M1 was only picking on lesser T-55/62/72M1

You're right about the crews though. We here can't hold a candle to the Americans in training. Top notch. It really shows; the US actually sells the M1 all over the world in different forms (Iraq monkey model, Egypt, Morocco monkey model, Saudi, Kuwait monkey model, Australia monkey model) but at the end of the day US Army M1A2s are the ones earning a fearsome reputation while Saudi M1A2s are sitting ducks getting blown up by Iranian 9M113 clones.

Technically the Evo upgrade and Pz87 RUAG upgrade are both for 2A4 tanks as both of those are 2A4 without upgrade. The KMW upgrade (with all the rivets) is available for all 2A7 vehicles however. But I think we agree that they all do make the 2A7 look a lot better than a large PL01

 

[GreiverBlade]

Technically the Evo upgrade and Pz87 RUAG upgrade are both for 2A4 tanks as both of those are 2A4 without upgrade. The KMW upgrade (with all the rivets) is available for all 2A7 vehicles however. But I think we agree that they all do make the 2A7 look a lot better than a large PL01

aherm ... the ESPACE is based of the 2A4 so the RUAG kit could also fit in that category and be adapted to the 2A7 ingame (afterall it's in 2035 ) and ESPACE is IBD Deisenroth and not KMW (thus based for 2A4 too )

while the 2A5 and upward model signature angled turret is also only a 2A4 kit

yep the Leo's are my favorite MBT's by a long shot ...

altho i would like to add that i widely prefer the Chally 2 over the M1A2 if we talk about "real life" battle proven tanks ... in that sense instead of being theoretically inferior (like with the 2A5/6/7 ) this time it's technically inferior (that or brits are better at surviving and keeping their chally 2 serviceable )

oh well, i could also say that i love all kind of tank/wheeled APC/IFV or other armored vehicle ... in the end the "favorite" is only a matter of personal taste (and yep albeit looking like a overfeed PL-01 the 2A7-140 is still a beauty )


ALSO i noticed a thing that anger me so much ...

2A7-140 description : "140mm SMOOTHBORE" upgrade: "RIFLED" ... GIVE ME MY 140mm HEAT SHELL if i can't have a 140mm LAHAT equivalent (altho the LAHAT can be fired by a bigger diameter rifle than 120mm, as he's already thinner than a 120mm projectile, 105mm technically )

oh ...https://aw.my.com/gb/news/general/i...=-1&lang=en_GB&mcauth=0&_1lp=0&_1ld=2046937_0

albeit not being a fan of America or France ... i clearly look out for those 2 "commemorative" vehicle ... (albeit them being premiums )

 

[tabascosauz]

aherm ... the ESPACE is based of the 2A4 so the RUAG kit could also fit in that category and be adapted to the 2A7 ingame (afterall it's in 2035 ) and ESPACE is IBD Deisenroth and not KMW (thus based for 2A4 too )
while the 2A5 and upward model signature angled turret is also only a 2A4 kit
yep the Leo's are my favorite MBT's by a long shot ...
altho i would like to add that i widely prefer the Chally 2 over the M1A2 if we talk about "real life" battle proven tanks ... in that sense instead of being theoretically inferior (like with the 2A5/6/7 ) this time it's technically inferior (that or brits are better at surviving and keeping their chally 2 serviceable )
oh well, i could also say that i love all kind of tank/wheeled APC/IFV or other armored vehicle ... in the end the "favorite" is only a matter of personal taste (and yep albeit looking like a overfeed PL-01 the 2A7-140 is still a beauty )
ALSO i noticed a thing that anger me so much ...
2A7-140 description : "140mm SMOOTHBORE" upgrade: "RIFLED" ... GIVE ME MY 140mm HEAT SHELL if i can't have a 140mm LAHAT equivalent (altho the LAHAT can be fired by a bigger diameter rifle than 120mm, as he's already thinner than a 120mm projectile, 105mm technically )

oh ...https://aw.my.com/gb/news/general/i...=-1&lang=en_GB&mcauth=0&_1lp=0&_1ld=2046937_0

albeit not being a fan of America or France ... i clearly look out for those 2 "commemorative" vehicle ... (albeit them being premiums )

Well of course Chally 2 who could forget but considering that CHARM 3 is leagues inferior to the DM63 they had better start working together with the Germans to get L/55 onto Chally 2

I think SS said that the "Rifled" description is an error on their part, but weeks have gone by and it has not even been fixed even though it's literally a 60 second fix

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First of all, yesterday was Canada Day and the nice thing is that OE took a minute to honour our country so if you are interested, it's in the news part of the website (along with a really sick Leopard 2 EVO, though cut from the game earlier). A 2A4M CAN as a premium would definitely be awesome tho.

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Overall, not impressed at all with the new vehicles. The XM1 FSED may be rare in real life (something like 11 total ever built), but let's face it it's just going to be a copypasta of the M1 with the M1A1 drive sprockets and a slightly changed rear turret at the same tier .

According to the PTS update, there's going to be a M60-2000 at Tier 7 which makes very little sense because of how bad the M60 hull is. Can you imagine 193mm of RHA at Tier 7??? And because it has an M1A1 turret it has the M256 L/44...except that evidently the legendary 120mm M829A1 "Silver Bullet" is inferior to 105mm M900 at same tier? Why would anyone buy this tank then?

The stats for the AMX-10RC look sweet though, it looks to be a better armored version of the MGS with really nice accuracy (just like it is in Project Reality, you don't want to cross this bad boy cause he can really fuck you up ). The Tier 8 Challenger 1 FALCON though...I see that it's KADDB upgrade for the Jordanian Challenger 1 - Al-Hussein with a RUAG )) Rh120 L/50 but like the M60-2000...why does this tank exist in the game? They just buffed it so it can play at Tier 8 but why??? Challenger 1 already holds its own at Tier 8 so why make it even more powerful to make it even easier for Chally noobs??

Details here https://armoredwarfareid.blogspot.ca/2016/06/m60-2000-xm1-fsed-amx-10rc-challanger-1.html also the XM1 FSED's paint scheme sucks balls and the Times New Roman "1776" is as bad as if they had put it in Comic Sans so I think i will pass on working my nuts off @ 200ms ping just trying to get into the Top 100 for PvE. If they really cared to research they would have put the "THUNDERBOLT" cloud + lightning bolt insignia on the XM1 (pre-serie homage to General Creighton Abrams' Sherman) and one of the ~dozen really cool flecktarn camos that the M1-105 had.

 

[GreiverBlade]

Overall, not impressed at all with the new vehicles. The XM1 FSED may be rare in real life (something like 11 total ever built), but let's face it it's just going to be a copypasta of the M1 with the M1A1 drive sprockets and a slightly changed rear turret at the same tier .

According to the PTS update, there's going to be a M60-2000 at Tier 7 which makes very little sense because of how bad the M60 hull is. Can you imagine 193mm of RHA at Tier 7??? And because it has an M1A1 turret it has the M256 L/44...except that evidently the legendary 120mm M829A1 "Silver Bullet" is inferior to 105mm M900 at same tier? Why would anyone buy this tank then?

The stats for the AMX-10RC look sweet though, it looks to be a better armored version of the MGS with really nice accuracy (just like it is in Project Reality, you don't want to cross this bad boy cause he can really fuck you up ). The Tier 8 Challenger 1 FALCON though...I see that it's KADDB upgrade for the Jordanian Challenger 1 - Al-Hussein with a RUAG )) Rh120 L/50 but like the M60-2000...why does this tank exist in the game? They just buffed it so it can play at Tier 8 but why??? Challenger 1 already holds its own at Tier 8 so why make it even more powerful to make it even easier for Chally noobs??

Details here https://armoredwarfareid.blogspot.ca/2016/06/m60-2000-xm1-fsed-amx-10rc-challanger-1.html also the XM1 FSED's paint scheme sucks balls and the Times New Roman "1776" is as bad as if they had put it in Comic Sans so I think i will pass on working my nuts off @ 200ms ping just trying to get into the Top 100 for PvE. If they really cared to research they would have put the "THUNDERBOLT" cloud + lightning bolt insignia on the XM1 (pre-serie homage to General Creighton Abrams' Sherman) and one of the ~dozen really cool flecktarn camos that the M1-105 had.

in fact the only that interest me is the AMX-10RC ... (the XM1 FSED ... the only thing i like is the decal ) the M60-2000 looks like a april's fool and the challenger (challanger????? URGH!) Falcon .... kinda interest me .... (and not just for yelling "FALCON PUNCH!!!!!!!!" when shooting ... )

Well of course Chally 2 who could forget but considering that CHARM 3 is leagues inferior to the DM63 they had better start working together with the Germans to get L/55 onto Chally 2.

well CHARM3 shine ... in my hands ... errrr ... altho no wonder for the CLEP program they did ask RHeinmetal ( also for the Falcon "RUAG )) Rh120 L/50" RUAG? never did a RH120, it would be Oerlikon-Contraves which is kinda Rheinmetal-Oerlikon since 1999. Altho Oerlikon albeit being Swiss is more into AA and naval gunnery)

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First of all, yesterday was Canada Day and the nice thing is that OE took a minute to honour our country so if you are interested, it's in the news part of the website (along with a really sick Leopard 2 EVO, though cut from the game earlier). A 2A4M CAN as a premium would definitely be awesome tho.

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yep it was nice ... except that at 6:30pm till 11:00pm i was at work one nice thing tho, i did look the news ... i always do, canadian Centurion (it was also one of the Switzerland MBT Mk. V version, i went in one on a demo day... it's a pretty slick and beasty tank )

I think SS said that the "Rifled" description is an error on their part, but weeks have gone by and it has not even been fixed even though it's literally a 60 second fix .

i think the rifled thing is an excuse to deny the HEAT round to the 2A7-140 ....


PS: Switzerland had the same number of MBT's in 2007 as UK ( well almost since : 227 chall 2 VS 250 Leo 2A4 with 134 being mentioned to be RUAG Pz87WE upgrades which is kinda unlikely the the upgrade, it was in consideration but never went into "real" production, altho the kit is on RUAG actual website and demo program ) well for the size of both country it's kinda logical (altho Canada? 181 MBT? all Leo C2 2A4 and 2A6M confounded? 146 for some sources ... and 2A4 12 were purchased from Switzerland i hope it was the locally built license type )

 

[tabascosauz]

in fact the only that interest me is the AMX-10RC ... (the XM1 FSED ... the only thing i like is the decal ) the M60-2000 looks like a april's fool and the challenger (challanger????? URGH!) Falcon .... kinda interest me .... (and not just for yelling "FALCON PUNCH!!!!!!!!" when shooting ... )

HAHAHA good one

PS: Switzerland had the same number of MBT's in 2007 as UK ( well almost since : 227 chall 2 VS 250 Leo 2A4 with 134 being mentioned to be RUAG Pz87WE upgrades which is kinda unlikely the the upgrade, it was in consideration but never went into "real" production, altho the kit is on RUAG actual website and demo program ) well for the size of both country it's kinda logical (altho Canada? 181 MBT? all Leo C2 2A4 and 2A6M confounded? 146 for some sources ... and 2A4 12 were purchased from Switzerland i hope it was the locally built license type )

There were 12 bought from Switzerland presumably Pz87 based but they were all made into ARV so it wouldn't really matter, as with like 50% of all our Leopards for some reason. Maybe we have the best Armoured Recovery training in the world, who knows?

Well our country is also heavily wooded and basically uninhabited so tanks aren't that useful if they can't go anywhere. As far as we are concerned LAV-III, C2 and 2A4/2A6 are the exact same if they can't actually get to their destination. And what's better is that we basically have no enemies (trade with China, not really enemies with Russia like the US is) and Russian Naval Infantry is underequipped as hell. I guess even if we had those tanks we'd have no one to man them population is 35M, UK population 64M, Swiss population 8M. UK fits into us 41 times over, Switzerland fits into us 242 times...I'll let you work out that population density

We do have some of the best snipers in the world though. In that sense Challenger 2 (longest range tank killer) = Canadian Army snipers (longest range people killers* ) US Army just isn't the same without Canadian long range support

*except for that Brit oddball recently

 

[GreiverBlade]

love the news sounds ... the Wiesel sound like a little beast ingame ...

 

[tabascosauz]

love the news sounds ... the Wiesel sound like a little beast ingame ...

Evidently in 0.16 they've fixed the sudden turret snapshot but looks like there might be a new big bug, and from the youtube video of the replay this is no joke https://www.reddit.com/r/ArmoredWar...ug_getting_hit_twice_in_pve_and_maybe_pvp_in/

With the NA server pretty much dead, 200ms+ ping whenever I'm playing from here, and BMPT-72 ERA = no ERA at all (upper glacis 544mm + sloping + ERA, yet M1A2 AP (roughly 560mm) goes straight through upper glacis like there's no sloping and ERA is not there, and ERA is really supposed to be "heavy" with a significant AP modifier), I'm starting to wonder exactly how much longer I"m going to play this game. I'm already starting to move back to Borderlands 2 and GTA V; if Squad is worth it then I'm afraid I'll have to say adios to OE. Not quite there yet, I'm playing here and there but it is really discouraging to keep on playing for the above reasons. No point in having a T-15 if there's no sane way for me to get there through this laggy tin can of a T9. Why anyone would even bother with a lower plate weakspot when the upper plate is already weaker than the T8 Ramka's lower plate is beyond me.

It would be a very welcome move for them to either implement server roaming (like just about every other non-tank-game MMO) or copy my data to other server on request, and to implement that solo PVE mode that the PTS has.

 

[GreiverBlade]

i wonder why i bounce a M1A2 AP on a Termi 2 upper glacis ... yet ... (can only pen it frontaly base turret or turret (half dmg) or lower glacis for full )

tho ... the BMPT-72 is based of the T-72A and the Ramka is based of the T-90 ... i wonder why they did put the Termi 2 in T9, it's beyond me... better gunnery weaker chassis base? ... pfeh ... oh well if i need to go shishkin AFV i will wait T10 and go T-15 HIFV and skip the termi 2, not that i am there already since i have only Ramka at 44% and Warrior at 78% i guess T9 shish will me either M8 or T-90MS

i still play from time to time and still like it ... as i see nothing that can discourage me

tho i am more on Overwatch, Skyrim, ROTTR DOOM and some other games lately

ping ... as in many online game i consider unplayable only above 280-300ms with 200ms i can still handle it, tho on NA server i have 150ms average

i might have to go back on WoWs also ... as they've put the Mikhail Kutusov, Tirpitz and Warspit in regular cash shop rather than special promotion from time to time (or not)