ASRock and ASUS: Mythbust

SpeedwayNative · Sep 20, 2011

FreedomEclipse said:
I will bet £20 that they wont leave the market within 20years.

I would bet my house

Point is ASUS isn't going anywhere skull. They pretty much run the show in the mobo world. Most OCers know if you want the biggest OCs, you go ASUS! Didn't AMD just set a new World Record on an ASUS board :cool:

eidairaman1 · Sep 21, 2011

SpeedwayNative said:
I would bet my house Point is ASUS isn't going anywhere skull. They pretty much run the show in the mobo world. Most OCers know if you want the biggest OCs, you go ASUS! Didn't AMD just set a new World Record on an ASUS board

not always true, biostar and AsRock have had a few killers, n they were pretty much bare bones models

Sir B. Fannybottom · Sep 21, 2011

I still see ASrock as a cheaper version of ASUS most of the time.. I even own one and it's running good, but it's a cheap peice of junk. It's prob because I got a combo board but i still see and will prob forever see ASUS as the big bro.

Volkszorn88 · Sep 21, 2011

I'm actually looking to buying an AM3+ mobo, for price/performance which is the better deal the ASRock Fatal1ty 990FX or ASUS Crosshair V ?

Both are out standing mobos so I can't decided.

eidairaman1 · Sep 21, 2011

Kevinheraiz said:
I still see ASrock as a cheaper version of ASUS most of the time.. I even own one and it's running good, but it's a cheap peice of junk. It's prob because I got a combo board but i still see and will prob forever see ASUS as the big bro.

bros machine has 970 Extreme4 n it certainly has the provisions needed for a good machine

Sir B. Fannybottom · Sep 21, 2011

eidairaman1 said:
bros machine has 970 Extreme4 n it certainly has the provisions needed for a good machine

I'm not saying they don't have very high end boards.. Arn't they the first people to use 16x gen 3? It's like cheese its and cheese nips. They are about they same, but one is the rip off... Even though it seems like ASrock mobos are getting better than ASUS.

eidairaman1 · Sep 21, 2011

Kevinheraiz said:
I'm not saying they don't have very high end boards.. Arn't they the first people to use 16x gen 3? It's like cheese its and cheese nips. They are about they same, but one is the rip off... Even though it seems like ASrock mobos are getting better than ASUS.

ever since they became their own entity n not owned by Asus Yes, just because a company may have partial interest in it via stocks doesnt mean they own it.

heky · Sep 21, 2011

eidairaman1 said:
ever since they became their own entity n not owned by Asus Yes, just because a company may have partial interest in it via stocks doesnt mean they own it.

Yeah right, and i am the king of england.

Steven B · Sep 21, 2011

SpeedwayNative said:
I would bet my house Point is ASUS isn't going anywhere skull. They pretty much run the show in the mobo world. Most OCers know if you want the biggest OCs, you go ASUS! Didn't AMD just set a new World Record on an ASUS board

you think that is a coincidence or just the OCers choice? ever heard of demanded exclusivity by a company towards OCers? i have only heard

FreedomEclipse · Sep 21, 2011

Steven B said:
you think that is a coincidence or just the OCers choice? ever heard of demanded exclusivity by a company towards OCers? i have only heard

Its not a coincidence. Its the fact that they know how to make a good board.

Im not saying other big names like Gigabyte or MSI (etc etc) cant do the same. but overall Asus is more popular.

Steven B · Sep 21, 2011

yes because they have been huge, but it usually isn't the OCers choice who they use, even if the Crosshair 5 is better than the rest, it doesn't mean they had a choice in this case.

Why do you think some top OCers get fed up so quickly.

FreedomEclipse · Sep 21, 2011

Its hard to judge what kind of hardware is OCers choice with so much competition in that arena.

Its more to do with brand loyalty IMO. People have bought and used Asus boards for years and it makes sense when upgrading to look for a board from the same brand if it has served them well.

Ive used Asus boards for a long time. and ive managed to get some decent clocks on their boards. I strayed from the Asus path after Biostar got a huge recommendation with thei TP45 ipower boards but mine had an FSB wall and refused to go about 470FSB when they proudly slap stickers on the box to advertise they managed to hit 600FSB+

I pushed it over 470FSB to see what happened and the board never booted again.

voltages were within safe limits and there was no smell of burning. just refused to show anything on screen when i powered up.

RMA'd it and picked up an Asus P5Q Pro which went upto 500FSB with no complaints. unfortunately my Q9550 was the limiting factor and i could only go as high as 3910Mhz.

Im probably gonna go try out an MSI board when it comes to upgrading my system

Steven B · Sep 21, 2011

in competitions or in public demos every piece of hardware shown is considered advertising. ASUS ussually does have the top OC boards, at least for LGA1155 and 990FX they do. 990fx because the others GB in particular has vdroop and no llc yet, so the asus is the obvious choice. For LGA1155 the GB are excellent boards, but their BIOS can be troublesome, except for the SNiper 2 which has a really good BIOS and suprising vregulation, except its not a benching board. X79 should be interesting., For instance with X58 and P55 GB, EVGA, ASUS all had top boards built for extreme OC. Maybe its becuase GB only makes extreme OC boards for Very good OC Intel platforms, and EVGA only makes a good OC board once every 8 years lol like sequedas.

I am just saying the benchers ussually never pick the hardware for an event like this. now that the ASUS board has this recognition ppl will follow and get teh same board b/c they want WRs. Don't be naive.

FreedomEclipse · Sep 21, 2011

Im talking about boards in general. not Benchmarking contests.

With benchmarking constests. Most of the time they will have sponsors that will provide hardware for them and by sponsors I dont mean the hosts themselves.

Unless everyone is a WR bencher to you then thats an entirely different story.

SkullFox · Sep 22, 2011

I wonder why DFI is not in this war.... They used to have the best boards for OCers

FreedomEclipse · Sep 22, 2011

SkullFox said:
I wonder why DFI is not in this war.... They used to have the best boards for OCers

They lost a lot of keymembers #1 being the board designer.

I think they tried to recruit new staff but i dont think it turned out too well so they went into limbo then the CEO decided they were pulling out of the commercial market and focusing on the OEM/industrial market instead.

This is all i have though. Bi-tech.net sent some of their guys around to their HQ in Taiwan and they didnt really want to comment on what happend, why it happened and what went wrong. all they said was they were pulling out and refocusing the efforts elsewhere.

None of the staff there was willing to talk about it.

Kinda sad IMO for one of the most influential companies that bought some serious overclocking hardware to the masses back in the Socket 939 and pre-939 era to end up in the gutter like they did but thats life

SkullFox · Sep 22, 2011

I had a mean Lanparty Board... man!! that thing could OC like no other...

Derek12 · Sep 22, 2011

SkullFox said:
I wonder why DFI is not in this war.... They used to have the best boards for OCers

And for reliability in my experience. A prebuilt computer I had from 1999 to 2006 had a DFI (don't remember the model) board, and was strong during that period despite it was very "mistreated" because with it, my family and I learned to use a computer, only the bad caps, which plagued most mobo released at that time, killed it

SkullFox · Sep 22, 2011

Mine was the NF4 which at the time was plagued by USB issues. This was because of the nForce chipset, some of them had huge problems with USB ports, mine were not severe.

FreedomEclipse · Sep 22, 2011

I had an Asus A8N32 Deluxe with what i think was an NF4 Ultra chipset. Never had any problems with it. was a good overclocker

WhoDecidedThat · Dec 23, 2011

Holy f**k! This is such a long thread! But anyway why the hell we as consumers care about they are related or not if we are getting what we want?

ASRockIQ · Dec 27, 2011

just plain and simple guys as i have known for a while now :laugh:

ASUS is the parent Company and that's that. let it be as is. ASRock though is heating up the battle with ASUS with new board Designs which now the new AMD AM3+ Boards look awesome! i may get one :cool:

OneMoar · Dec 27, 2011

why the fuck are you bumping this ... dead thread is dead let it stay dead ... kkthx

de.das.dude · Dec 27, 2011

ASRockIQ said:
just plain and simple guys as i have known for a while now

ASUS is the parent Company and that's that. let it be as is. ASRock though is heating up the battle with ASUS with new board Designs which now the new AMD AM3+ Boards look awesome! i may get one

im thinking of selling my Asus with POS quality and gettin them AM3+ ones !

eidairaman1 · Dec 27, 2011

ASRockIQ said:
just plain and simple guys as i have known for a while now

ASUS is the parent Company and that's that. let it be as is. ASRock though is heating up the battle with ASUS with new board Designs which now the new AMD AM3+ Boards look awesome! i may get one

As of last year AsRock is a separate company not owned by Asus. Asus holds a small stock percentage but that doesnt mean they are owned by them.

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