ASRock X870E Taichi

[xSneak]

Does this board have an external clock generator for the cpu bclk frequency ? I don't see any mention of it in the review overclocking section and the only thing I see on the asrock website is "ASRock Hyper BCLK Engine" listed under cpu features for the board. It seems like overclocking the bclk is the only way to increase single core boost frequency on these ryzen cpus.
That feature is on the marketing of the Asus boards as "Asynchronous Clock".
It would really be disqualifying if this board was missing it.

 

[AnarchoPrimitiv]

X870E Pro Art is similarly priced(there seem to be some combo savings so wont be too much more than this board) and it has much better connectivity(10Gbps NIC and better PCIe slot layout) so overall even though I avoid Shitsus products like a plague wont mind getting that ProArt board thanks to better feature set.

....if you're "ok" with giving money to Asus....

 

[anonuser57]

Do the dimm slots have movable latches at both ends of each slot? Dimm slots where one latch is fixed in place are a pain in the rear to work with and have no place on premium boards.

 

[Dave65]

This is paramount to highway robbery if you buy these over priced over hyped motherboards.. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink it!

 

[hoxlund14]

Do the dimm slots have movable latches at both ends of each slot? Dimm slots where one latch is fixed in place are a pain in the rear to work with and have no place on premium boards.

Both ends move and latch, like you want, yes.

 

[Tek-Check]

Let me know when there is a ~$200 mATX one.

This is eATX high-end motherboard.

 

[azrael]

It's a tragedy that top-end boards like this only come with two PCIe slots. I've just had a quick gander at the selection of other manufacturers and it seems you should be thrilled to even find three slots on most motherboards. The only standout is the ASUS ProArt-B650 (yes not even an X670) which has four. My ASUS Prime-X470 Pro has six.

 

[A Computer Guy]

It's a tragedy that top-end boards like this only come with two PCIe slots. I've just had a quick gander at the selection of other manufacturers and it seems you should be thrilled to even find three slots on most motherboards. The only standout is the ASUS ProArt-B650 (yes not even an X670) which has four. My ASUS Prime-X470 Pro has six.

3 slots is why I picked the LiveMixer in combination with the slot positioning so I could fit the GPU in slot 2 without getting in the way of motherboard headers.

Holy cow I don't know how I missed looking at that one (ASUS ProArt-B650) I can only find a referb $220 unit from newegg and no listing from amazon.
Maybe it wasn't in stock or a thing when I was looking.... It edges out the LiveMixer in features and expandability. Based on the referb price I'm guessing it's probably at least $100 more than the LiveMixer maybe in the ballpark of $250.

 

[Zareek]

Then you are never going to upgrade because as things get more complex the cost will keep going up! There is no way around this.

Or you could just drop out of the enthusiast segment and get bottom barrel parts because that's what you are going to be stuck with until PC gaming is cloud based.

That's the attitude the suits LOVE. We used to get more complex PCs every year, and things got cheaper.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

Then you are never going to upgrade because as things get more complex the cost will keep going up! There is no way around this.

Or you could just drop out of the enthusiast segment and get bottom barrel parts because that's what you are going to be stuck with until PC gaming is cloud based.

There's no reason to continue supporting such prices. We well know that mobo makers are price gouging customers. You telling me it cost another $300 to make a x670e board over a b650? Really now?

Since the coof price gouging has been normalized, thankfully consumers are being forced to tighten their wallets so we will hopefully see a return to normalcy.

 

[Wasteland]

There's no reason to continue supporting such prices. We well know that mobo makers are price gouging customers. You telling me it cost another $300 to make a x670e board over a b650? Really now?

Since the coof price gouging has been normalized, thankfully consumers are being forced to tighten their wallets so we will hopefully see a return to normalcy.

lol, yeah. The options aren't "buy $450 motherboard" or "never upgrade again." It's more like, "The vast majority will upgrade to whatever offers a tangible benefit at a reasonable price."

Particularly now that we appear to be entering a period of CPU stagnation, the notion that anyone needs to leap on the latest variant of something that will be in tomorrow's bargain bin is absurd. You mean I can get a functionally irrelevant performance increase, AND a functionally irrelevant upgrade to PCIe 5.0, at merely triple the cost? Sign me up!

The problem for both AMD and Intel--and perhaps more so for their board partners--is that they have to compete not just against each other, but against their own previous generation products, which by all accounts will not be blown away by the new stuff, any time soon.

 

[Quicks]

Then you are never going to upgrade because as things get more complex the cost will keep going up! There is no way around this.

Or you could just drop out of the enthusiast segment and get bottom barrel parts because that's what you are going to be stuck with until PC gaming is cloud based.

Still ridiculous has always been GPU[Expensive] CPU[Average] M/B[Cheap]. Now is like all GPU[Crazy Expensive] CPU[Expensive] M/B[Very Expensive]. Only reason they get away with this is because people allow it. Why do you think AMD last few launches they start high and quickly drop the price. Obviously you see if they can get away with charging more for the products.

These companies Nvidia, AMD, Intel is not your friends they don't care about your feelings.They only want your money. That's why I don't understand when people try and defend their actions. If you not on the payroll why are you defending them.

 

[Aleksandar_038]

I am way too old, because I remember times when half this price was considered high-end.

Somewhere along the way, we took wrong turn.

Super high end board with 2 expansion slots? Data storage under 400w graphic card in huge tower case?
Plenty of cosmetics on every board out there... Cheap cosmetics that 80% of users do not need at all?
Fancy heatsinks that do not cool, but they do light up?

And all of that for this kind of money?

I think desktop PC is already dead, it is just that no-one told us...

 

[Broken Processor]

Can anyone confirm that the two m.2 gen 4 connected to the second x870 chipset don't suffer from latency issues?

 

[azrael]

3 slots is why I picked the LiveMixer in combination with the slot positioning so I could fit the GPU in slot 2 without getting in the way of motherboard headers.

Holy cow I don't know how I missed looking at that one (ASUS ProArt-B650) I can only find a referb $220 unit from newegg and no listing from amazon.
Maybe it wasn't in stock or a thing when I was looking.... It edges out the LiveMixer in features and expandability. Based on the referb price I'm guessing it's probably at least $100 more than the LiveMixer maybe in the ballpark of $250.

Cheapest price for the ProArt-B650 here in Denmark is $280. That's for a brand new one, of course. What ticks me off especially is that boards with X870E, X670E and X670 chipsets seem to squander their additional PCIe lanes. At least I can't really figure out where they go. And do you really need 16 USB and 8 SATA ports?

 

[Waweq]

Funny how my 13900k can do read speeds in AID64 hitting 125gb/s and 59ns latency

 

[Metroid]

No vrm temperature test.

 

[mechtech]

Only 2 pcie slots is a downer.

Any plans to expand the review to cover other items such as

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and data transfer from nvme to nvme?

 

[Redwoodz]

Funny how my 13900k can do read speeds in AID64 hitting 125gb/s and 59ns latency

But how long before it implodes? Funny that memory performance doesn't keep it from performing worse in rl.

 

[ir_cow]

Only 2 pcie slots is a downer.

Any plans to expand the review to cover other items such as

Gigabyte X570S AERO G Review

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and

Gigabyte X570S AERO G Review

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and data transfer from nvme to nvme?

This is how I found out the ASUS X670E Hero was sharing PCIe lanes with M.2 and USB4/TB4.

Fill all M.2 slots for testing makes it less work to narrow down what is the problem.

This lane sharing Never mentioned in the manual. Only mattered if you were trying to read or write using both at the same time. Ie transferring data to that specific nvme from USB or vice versa, but I could cause problems if the USB4/TB4 was used for a NAS.

Also general idea if certain M.2 slots are underperforming and what USB ports share what.

 

[_roman_]

Another two feature Ultra USB Power, where the 5 V supply is derived from a 12 V rail that fluctuates less than a typical 5 V rail under heavy loads and shields it from noise from other devices such as RGB lighting for better audio quality on devices connected to those ports.

I have my doubts(friendly for that's bullshit or marketing).

A voltage regulator is most likely also a switched regulator which introduces interference. The text implies there is some circuit which converts 12VDC to 5VDC.
If you have issues with your Voltages I may suggest replacing the power supply in the first place. I would get a better mainboard with better design if those effects happens. I also expect an usb audio interface or similar device to have a proper input circuit to reduce interference from the USB ports. If it's done via cables or other way is up to the designer of those usb devices.

I assume that all those audio nerds would have seen such issues long time before. Maybe also measured interference while testing usb audio interfaces or other usb devices.

The CPU header is limited to 1 A/12 W, and we're waiting on clarification from ASRock whether the remaining seven 4-pin fan headers are limited to 3 A/36 W in total or per port, as this isn't clear in the manual.

Most mainboard manuals are hardly ever updated. I expect a manual with clear and easy to read specs.

Many asrock mainbaords have a much better design with the wlan module accessable on the board like a m2 nvme module.

My ASUS mainboard uses a similar design. If you want to replace the wlan module you will have to remove the mainboard from the case. Than remove the screws from the mainboard backside. Than open the metall box to change the notebook sized wlan module.

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I miss more USB-C ports on the backpanel. I miss overall several usb ports on the backpanel.

I miss the 10gbps Ethernet port on the backpanel. Or two 10gbps Ethernet ports on the backpanel. One 5gps Ethernet seems to be mainstream as of now.

The onboard Audio has only two instead of five connectors which were common on past AMD mainboards.

 

[Launcestonian]

Bring me a 2 Dimm slot B850E board asap!
Btw, the link for the ram in the test setup leads to Neo Forza site, so how do we know what timings the RAM was running at? The least the reviewer could have done was shown a screenshot of Zen timings.

 

[ir_cow]

Bring me a 2 Dimm slot B850E board asap!
Btw, the link for the ram in the test setup leads to Neo Forza site, so how do we know what timings the RAM was running at? The least the reviewer could have done was shown a screenshot of Zen timings.

Where does it say NeoFroza? I only see Corsair listed in the specs this this motherboard.

 

[Caring1]

Where does it say NeoFroza? I only see Corsair listed in the specs this this motherboard.

Yes Corsair is listed, but clicking on that link brings you to Neo Forza

 

[rv8000]

Hardware features and board layout aside, whoever is in charge of the actual design or look of the taichi boards needs to be canned.

Also, the pci-e police still beating the dead horse here…