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ASUS GeForce RTX 5090 Astral OC

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Usually "luxury" products have some sort of advantage though. The cooler on this thing gets smoked by the MUCH cheaper MSI Suprim, and after an 800 dollar markup, they were too cheap to include stock PTM like they advertised. So what exactly is Asus offering here?

Sure, ALL high end cards are a luxury, but this particular one looks especially stupid.
The name. That's all it is, like high end bags, or shoes, or clothing, or brands like Cadillac.

Most "luxury" items are just normal things with jacked up prices and perceived "value".

Kinda like "supreme" merchandise. It offers nothing over the unbranded merch, it's just 3x the price to say "supreme" on the side. Just like this card.
 

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People put together all kinds of theme builds, and not all cards would work for it.. you pay for a look I guess.

I don't know what you mean by this, but to me the old Titans where actual halo products and them being really expensive was fine, because there were Something Extra. The consumer base has changed and shifted and so has the discussion around them (besides the resolution/Hz creep). A Titan was something to be coveted for sure, but I don't think I encountered any gamer that actually expressed a need for it, a need that went as far as they would actually buy it. The xx90 cards though? If you spend €300 on a monitor you can make use of all of that power straight away and more importantly ... I'm not sure how to express this feeling, but it's like the baseline has shifted. The Titan cards were opulent and if you actually needed that kind of power you were either a very specific professional or a weirdo with probably too much money and weird standards. Today though those standards are the norm. Gaming monitors are all high refresh rates, and those are the only monitors that will ever be recommended. That or higher resolutions. 10 years ago that was not the case. €200 would buy you a very decent monitor that would do gaming just fine, but these days that is a pittance and I can't even recall a self-proclaimed gamer in modern times (meaning say post 2019) buying such a lowly monitor. And if you don't buy a 1440p/High Hz monitor you will be recommended a 4K monitor which is even worse. One aspect of this is of course that millenials (or Elder millenals as I have seen them called) have grown up and have more spending money and because we are the backbone of places that will make recommendations like that the baseline will increase. I might change these opinions if/when I think on it some more.
 

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This card is not meant for poor people like us though, its made for people who don't care.

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That's the part that people forget, cards like these are made for people with no budget constraints, no eyeing every dimes, none of that.
 

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Usually "luxury" products have some sort of advantage though. The cooler on this thing gets smoked by the MUCH cheaper MSI Suprim, and after an 800 dollar markup, they were too cheap to include stock PTM like they advertised. So what exactly is Asus offering here?

Sure, ALL high end cards are a luxury, but this particular one looks especially stupid.
The one advantage that I found so far with the Asus GeForce RTX 5090 ROG Astral over other competing partner cards is that each of the 12V-2x6 connector's 12V pins are connected to a shunt resistor on the back of the card in order to allow the card to detect problems with the 12V-2x6 power input. For example, if one pin's amperage is low compared to the other pins' amperages, that could indicate a bad connection in the socket, a blown cable, or a bad connection to the power supply unit. That is a very innovative safety feature.
 

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I always feel like the pros and cons are sometimes off, though on this one just a missed opportunity. While it does have incredible performance the con should have had in it poor performance for the dollar, infact any card or CPU that offers poor performance for the dollar should have that in the con and if it is good then in the pro great performance for the dollar.
 
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Asus is such a joke. Its even worse in Europe. They overprice their cards big time. Nobody here gets any of their cards. They only got a few cards per store too, cus nobody cares about that company anymore. So if you wanna even do reviews, its hard to get these cards here.
 
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Doesn't look worth the markup. At least with the FE card, you can replace the PCIe connector without soldering.
Unless it clicks into place soldering would still be involved albeit of only two wide contact areas instead of twelve pins that have to be heated simultaneously and pulled out. That has to be so much easier but tightly packed, dangerous proximity of other elements. I don't trust the connector with more than 400W.
 
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It just clicks into place, the connection uses a custom connector. And it doesn't handle over 75w of power because PCIe.

 
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Dear lord the coping and seething over a luxury item is absolutely bonkers. Guys, you dont have to buy this! Like, i'm not buying a 5090, but it doesnt anger me that this card exists. Some of y'all need some grass in your life (i know that's harder in winter but still).

It does, RT becomes your bottleneck, so your ROPs and TMUs ece are under less load since instead of pushing 120 FPS you're pushing closer to 40.

Goes to show that Black well simply didn't improve RT enough, or at all, to saturate the rest of the core.

Stop being a consoooomer. Have patience. Literally every generation other cards review a few months later and sometimes they are better deals.

If you dont ABSOLUTELY need a GPU RIGHT NOW NOW NOW then just wait a few months. Or if you cant, pick up a 4080, its highly unlikely the 5080 will be much if any improvement based on the 5090's performance.
That's entirely wrong as the "Rend out puts" (R.O.P's) still have to "RENDER OUT THE RAYS" along with textures & triangles
 
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It just clicks into place, the connection uses a custom connector. And it doesn't handle over 75w of power because PCIe.
This is the display port and it looks like flimsy, cheap plastic at risk of breaking over time. PCIe is no longer used to provide 75 watts through the slot. That's cheating. Nvidia invented this wonderful limitation for a reason. there are no additional 75W coming to save the day. At 3 kg the card could definitely use a support bracket to avoid cracks.
 

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This card is not meant for poor people like us though, its made for people who don't care.

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That's the part that people forget, cards like these are made for people with no budget constraints, no eyeing every dimes, none of that.
You'd think even those people would ask the question "why get this over the FE?".
 
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You'd think even those people would ask the question "why get this over the FE?".
Because it's in stock.

It will sell slowly because it's a bad value, but that also means that it will be the only model in stock, which means that people who want a card right now will buy it.

This will only sell if supply is low enough that no alternatives are ever in stock.
 
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