ASUS Launches AMD X870E and X870 Chipset Motherboards Across its Motherboard Brands

[ASUSTECHMKTJJ]

Why no two memory slot option for better memory overclocking?

No, we have no plans at this time, but the HERO and the -E will feature our Nitropath DRAM design, which will further enhance DRAM scaling.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

We announced all models and, at this time, have no plans for an mATX offering. As always, we will monitor feedback. With this note, we offer B650 solutions like our TUF GAMING B650M PLUS Gaming WiFi, which is a solid choice for those who want an mATX motherboard.

Thanks for letting us know, appreciate it.

 

[Darkholm]

And again - post code display only on flagship and -E version of second most expensive board.
Greedy a$$holes.

 

[Ruru]

No mATX

I'm pretty sure that a GENE or something will pop up later.

 

[Darkholm]

No, we have no plans at this time, but the HERO and the -E will feature our Nitropath DRAM design, which will further enhance DRAM scaling.

And what about post-code display which cost 7 cents??? Again only on 2 most expensive boards. MSI is giving it on Tomahawk series, and you cheapskates cannot put it even on -F or ProArt.

 

[Darkholm]

Nice how Asus is dodgy when they see unpopular thinking by user.

 

[chrcoluk]

Wtf ASUS? https://edgeup.asus.com/2024/x870-x870e-motherboard-guide-amd-ryzen-9000-series/
Not even one usable X870 board for my purposes. Why so many M.2 slots? What gamer needs 4-5 M.2 slots?
I'd understand having CPU lanes for GPU split into 2x PCIe Gen5 x8, so that you can use bifurcation for SSD RAID purposes.

I require 1x PCIe 5.0 x16 (CPU-bound), 2x M.2 PCIe 4.0/5.0 x4 (CPU-bound), 1x PCIe 3.0 x4 (chipset-bound), 1x PCIe 3.0 x1 (chipset-bound), 1x M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 (chipset-bound).
That's 3 regular PCIe slots - for GPU, soundcard, one spare PCIe x4 for any purpose (e.g. network card) - I'm asking for. Is that too much to ask?
You can convert PCIe x1/x4/x8/x16 using adaptor to make it work with M.2 SSDs but you can't do the opposite.

Even Prime' X870-P second PCIe chipset-bound port is bandwidth-shared with M.2_3 slot (occuping one slot disables the other).

EDIT: They wasted 4 PCIe 5.0 lanes from CPU ... only one M.2 port is connected to CPU, other 3 M.2s are connected to the chipset. Incredible.
Previous generation was done properly.

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Specs of released boards:

PRIME X870-P｜Motherboards｜ASUS Global

ASUS PRIME X870-P is an AMD X870 (Ryzen AM5) motherboard with Advanced AI ready, PCIe 5.0 storage support, four M.2 slots, DDR5 slots, dual USB 40Gbps, PCIe Slot Q-Release.

www.asus.com

PRIME X870-P WIFI｜Motherboards｜ASUS Global

ASUS PRIME X870-P WIFI is an AMD X870 (Ryzen AM5) motherboard with Advanced AI ready, PCIe 5.0 storage support, four M.2 slots, DDR5 slots, dual USB 40Gbps, WiFi 7, WiFi Q-Antenna, PCIe Slot Q-Release

www.asus.com

TUF GAMING X870-PLUS WIFI｜Motherboards｜ASUS Global

ASUS TUF GAMING X870-PLUS WIFI is an Advanced AI PC ready ATX motherboard with 16+2+1 power stages, DDR5, PCIe 5.0 Ready, four M.2 slots, Wi-Fi 7, Realtek 2.5Gb Ethernet, USB4® (40Gbps) Type-C®, BIOS

www.asus.com

ProArt X870E-CREATOR WIFI｜Motherboards｜ASUS Global

Built for creators, ProArt X870E-Creator WiFi features ASUS AI technologies, PCIe® 5.0, DDR5 slots, dual USB4®, 10 Gb & 2.5 Gb LAN, WiFi 7 and four M.2 slots

www.asus.com

ROG STRIX X870E-E GAMING WIFI | Gaming motherboards｜ROG - Republic of Gamers｜ROG Global

The ROG Strix X870E-E Gaming WiFi elevates builds with 18 power stages, DDR5 slots and extensive PCIe 5.0 connectivity. It features five M.2 SSD slots with heatsinks, USB4® support, WiFi 7, AI Overclo

rog.asus.com

ROG STRIX X870-I GAMING WIFI | Gaming motherboards｜ROG - Republic of Gamers｜ROG Global

The ROG Strix X870-I Gaming WiFi packs a punch with 10-stage power, hyperspeed DDR5 slots and PCIe® 5.0 connectivity. It features two M.2 SSD slots with heatsin

rog.asus.com

ROG STRIX X870-F GAMING WIFI | Gaming motherboards｜ROG - Republic of Gamers｜ROG Global

The ROG Strix X870-F Gaming WiFi brings potent 16-stage power, hyperspeed DDR5 slots and PCIe® 5.0 connectivity. It features four M.2 SSD slots with heatsinks, USB4® support, WiFi 7, AI Overclocking,

rog.asus.com

Sadly it will get harder and harder to get the sort of board you want, I think that AMD still only provides 4 chipset lanes also makes it harder to add chipset based PCI-e slots as well. The vendors seem all in now on the million M.2 per board at the expense of PCI-e slots.

ASRock are usually the best here, so wait for their boards, although I expect theirs might be only a little bit better at best. ASRock's arrow lake board has been massively nerfed compared to Z690 on PCI-e connectivity (I would say overall as it trades 2 pci-e slots for 1 extra gen 4 M.2, very bad trade off, as well as losing SATA ports as well). so it doesnt bode well for AMD. I couldnt find a good picture or good info on ASRock's X870E Steel Legend board.

Considering riser cables are already a thing, I wonder if someone will ever release a cable that goes from M.2 to a riser PCI-e port, if its even possible.

 

[kapone32]

Considering riser cables are already a thing, I wonder if someone will ever release a cable that goes from M.2 to a riser PCI-e port, if its even possible.

That is how people use 1 MB to mine up to 7 GPUs.

 

[LittleBro]

Sadly it will get harder and harder to get the sort of board you want, I think that AMD still only provides 4 chipset lanes also makes it harder to add chipset based PCI-e slots as well. The vendors seem all in now on the million M.2 per board at the expense of PCI-e slots.

My estimation is that after a few years the trend of having as many M.2 slots as possible will turn back in favor of having dedicated AI accelerator cards and that will require PCIe slots.
Having NPU as a part of CPU is nice but with time it's space requirements will grow rapidly in order to satisfy ever growing performance demands for AI-related stuff).

To further push performance uplifts in new generations of CPUs, manufacturers will need space for new transistors, so everything non-critical (iGPU, NPU) will go outside the SoC.
The other way to handle this is to release a new, larger socket every year or two. Hopefully, that's not the approach that AMD would take, they commited to support one socket for 4-5 years.

I think we'll see dedicated AI expansion cards for regular PCIe slots just like now we have graphics cards, let's say in 3 years.
This way any (older) PCIe and Win11 compatible hardware would be able to run Copilot even without having NPU as a part of CPU SoC.

Okay, enough of my future-vision offtopic talk ...

 

[rv8000]

ASUS is officially out of their gourd with pricing

 

[Tomorrow]

From their own site: https://rog.asus.com/us/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-z790-e-gaming-wifi-ii/
Comparable Intel motherboard released bit less than a year ago. +$70 AMD tax. +$120 if we count current, not initial price.

THIS is what's hurting AMD CPU market share. More than any lackluster AM5 launch AMD themselves can do.
With robbers partners like these, who needs enemies.

 

[Gmr_Chick]

ASUS is officially out of their gourd with pricing

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Not just out of their gourd, but abso-fucking-lutely batshit crazy!

Expect the X870E Hero to clock in at anywhere from $650 to $700 USD if the price of this Strix board is anything to go by. Totally crazy.

 

[rv8000]

Not just out of their gourd, but abso-fucking-lutely batshit crazy!

Expect the X870E Hero to clock in at anywhere from $650 to $700 USD if the price of this Strix board is anything to go by. Totally crazy.

Nah with that price for the strix e I fully expect $800-$850 for the hero

Model for model the E is almost 2x the cost of the x570 E.

 

[Gmr_Chick]

Nah with that price for the strix e I fully expect $800-$850 for the hero

Model for model the E is almost 2x the cost of the x570 E.

It's crazy to think that I'd gotten my Crosshair VI Hero for $230 in 2016.

I can remember when Asus initially split its gaming tier boards into the TUF, Strix and ROG lines. TUF was supposed to be "budget" with a focus on durability and gamers on a budget; Strix was the next tier up, with a nice balance between the TUF and ROG tiers; ROG was the top of the hill. But ever since the x570 days, I feel like ASUS has been trying to blur the lines between the ROG Crosshair tier and the Strix tier, because there's something wrong about having to spend $500+ for a motherboard in the mid-tier Strix brand.

Or is it just me?

 

[Tomorrow]

It's crazy to think that I'd gotten my Crosshair VI Hero for $230 in 2016.

I can remember when Asus initially split its gaming tier boards into the TUF, Strix and ROG lines. TUF was supposed to be "budget" with a focus on durability and gamers on a budget; Strix was the next tier up, with a nice balance between the TUF and ROG tiers; ROG was the top of the hill. But ever since the x570 days, I feel like ASUS has been trying to blur the lines between the ROG Crosshair tier and the Strix tier, because there's something wrong about having to spend $500+ for a motherboard in the mid-tier Strix brand.

Or is it just me?

It's not just you. I feel the same.

 

[rv8000]

It's crazy to think that I'd gotten my Crosshair VI Hero for $230 in 2016.

I can remember when Asus initially split its gaming tier boards into the TUF, Strix and ROG lines. TUF was supposed to be "budget" with a focus on durability and gamers on a budget; Strix was the next tier up, with a nice balance between the TUF and ROG tiers; ROG was the top of the hill. But ever since the x570 days, I feel like ASUS has been trying to blur the lines between the ROG Crosshair tier and the Strix tier, because there's something wrong about having to spend $500+ for a motherboard in the mid-tier Strix brand.

Or is it just me?

Definitely not just you. Considering how overbuilt most mid tier VRMs are even for 16c models, there’s literally no point in this board at the price. I can’t imagine it’ll sell well.

Im sure plenty of people will fork over the cash for a hero this generation, I could, but the price is just idiotic. Pricing across the entire market is just disillusioned.

 

[TumbleGeorge]

The best in the picture is that has many other mb marks and yes few of its are more famous. But has enough cheap alternatives of aSus.