ASUS ProArt X870E-Creator Wi-Fi

[Combatus]

Arguably one of the best-looking motherboards out there, but what does the latest ProArt motherboard for AMD Ryzen CPUs bring to the table considering its high price tag? Is it worth it compared to the competition, even for creators?

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[_roman_]

Thanks for the review

• May you check the contents please? I think there are 4 SATA cables and a Proart branded ruler in the box. Maybe something else also.

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The full list of accessories includes:

• 1x Quick start guide
• 1x Wi-Fi Antenna
• 2x SATA cables
• G Connector
• M2 thermal pad
• M.2 support pads

 

[Nater]

I hate that the PD charging is only 30w now. It just irks me. Mine is 60w on my Z-790, but I'm stuck in Intel land now.

 

[Asni]

Together with the X670E Pro-Art model, these are the only high-end AM5 mobos you should splurge on.

 

[mechtech]

"Intel's 2.5 Gbps I226-V."

Is this fixed now?

It would be nice if they could put in a 1x pcie slot at the top and still fit in an m2 or maybe put it on the back?

$700 cad, about $800 after tax. Anyone else remember building whole PCs for that?

ASUS ProArt X870E-CREATOR WIFI AMD AM5 X870E ATX Motherboard PCIe 5.0 x16 slots with full support for next-gen GPUs, 16+2+2 power stages, DDR5, dual USB4, 10 Gb & 2.5 Gb LAN, WiFi 7, four M.2 slots - Newegg.com

Buy ASUS ProArt X870E-CREATOR WIFI AMD AM5 X870E ATX Motherboard PCIe 5.0 x16 slots with full support for next-gen GPUs, 16+2+2 power stages, DDR5, dual USB4, 10 Gb & 2.5 Gb LAN, WiFi 7, four M.2 slots with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

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[Chrispy_]

"Intel's 2.5 Gbps I226-V."
Is this fixed now?

It might now be fixed, but it took so long to fix that the damage was done and I disabled all of the adapters I had a replaced them with add-in NICs.

Intel demonstrated with the i225 and i226 that they have absolutely no idea how to make a reliable ethernet controller, nor solve their problems, nor any semblence of customer service. I'd rather use the troublesome Broadcom adapters of yore than take another gamble on Intel, which is really saying something if you know how catastrophic some of Broadcom's missteps were in the enterprise segment.

$700 cad, about $800 after tax. Anyone else remember building whole PCs for that?

I don't think I've ever spent more than $400 on a board, and those were for Threadrippers. The fact that "features are culled" at $480 MSRP is kinda disgusting. You can get three good quality motherboards for that price already.

 

[csendesmark]

I have this board, and love it.
But I wish they added heatpipes between the bigger cooler blocks...

On this and several other board's review
why do you list something as a pro then as a con???

It is not on ASUS that AMD only gave 24 PCIe lanes for the Ryzen 9000 CPU-s.
But in this case the board offer more option for you... so the second gen5 m.2 slot is great, even if you don't actually use.
The user has more options..

On the con regarding top m.2 heatsink lacking full length thermal pads is really nitpicking, since you tested m.2 SSD in the several hundreds, yet never review an 20110 sized one.

On the:
The PCB is fairly busy thanks to the board offering four M.2 ports, USB4 and three x16 PCIe slots. Being X870E it also has two chipsets to fit in. The PCIe Slot Q-Release features means there are no extensions from the primary slot for buttons to release your graphics card, and you just lift the card up from the PCIe slot end to remove it.
Can we stop the thing which the manufacturers doing by lying?
Call them full length slots instead!
three full length PCIe slots with 16/8/4 × wired.
I can tell there is only one 16 lane slot, I swear!

 

[Makaveli]

It might now be fixed, but it took so long to fix that the damage was done and I disabled all of the adapters I had a replaced them with add-in NICs.

Intel demonstrated with the i225 and i226 that they have absolutely no idea how to make a reliable ethernet controller, nor solve their problems, nor any semblence of customer service. I'd rather use the troublesome Broadcom adapters of yore than take another gamble on Intel, which is really saying something if you know how catastrophic some of Broadcom's missteps were in the enterprise segment.

I don't think I've ever spent more than $400 on a board, and those were for Threadrippers. The fact that "features are culled" at $480 MSRP is kinda disgusting. You can get three good quality motherboards for that price already.

This 100%

When I was looking at AM5 boards I choose to avoid any with an intel i225 nic.

I like to spend $350-$400 on motherboards never more.

I spent $700 on my current AM5 board + 64GB of DDR5 CL30 memory.

 

[Chrispy_]

This 100%

When I was looking at AM5 boards I choose to avoid any with an intel i225 nic.

I like to spend $350-$400 on motherboards never more.

I spent $700 on my current AM5 board + 64GB of DDR5 CL30 memory.

For an AM5 board, rather than an sTR5 board, I'd consider anything over $250 extravagant, because at that price you can find multiple options with strong VRMs, multiple PCIe 5.0 NVMe slots, WiFi 7, Bluetooth, 2.5Gb Ethernet, and 20Gbps USB4.

Like, what else do you need from a board?

 

[Makaveli]

For an AM5 board, rather than an sTR5 board, I'd consider anything over $250 extravagant, because at that price you can find multiple options with strong VRMs, multiple PCIe 5.0 NVMe slots, WiFi 7, Bluetooth, 2.5Gb Ethernet, and 20Gbps USB4.

Like, what else do you need from a board?

you will only find 650/850 class boards in that price range on AM5.

 

[Chrispy_]

you will only find 650/850 class boards in that price range on AM5.

Yep, was thinking of something like the MAG Tomahawk B850.
X870e gets you a little more storage bandwidth but it's not like the B850 is really lacking in that regard to start with:



I've never bought an AM5 board with an "e" suffix - can't see the point of them for a workstation or desktop because you can't use all those lanes at once unless you're using your desktop as a server, which is an amateur move.

 

[CosmicWanderer]

I have the X670E version and it's honestly the best mobo I've bought. It's stable without all the "gamer" features I'll never use. 10GBe is great for the connection to my NAS, and DP-In is fantastic.

I don't think I'll be buying gaming SKU motherboards after this.

 

[freeagent]

$700 cad, about $800 after tax. Anyone else remember building whole PCs for that?

That is why I passed on X870E and just went with a cheap X670E.

 

[Tek-Check]

I like to spend $350-$400 on motherboards never more.
I spent $700 on my current AM5 board + 64GB of DDR5 CL30 memory.

$300-350 bucks for 64GB of memory? Yikes...

 

[Nater]

For an AM5 board, rather than an sTR5 board, I'd consider anything over $250 extravagant, because at that price you can find multiple options with strong VRMs, multiple PCIe 5.0 NVMe slots, WiFi 7, Bluetooth, 2.5Gb Ethernet, and 20Gbps USB4.

Like, what else do you need from a board?

Onboard 10Gbe and PD USB-C.

 

[zmeul]

I see they're still using an acrylic cover over the PCH heatsink, they've learned nothing
Z690 and Z790 Creator owner, I took it down because there's no airflow over that heatsink with the cover obstructing it

aesthetics over function is the most retarded shit

 

[berjerac]

one of several 870 boards which has x8+x8 pcie slots

this generation is expensive af and sucks

 

[Tek-Check]

I see they're still using an acrylic cover over the PCH heatsink, they've learned nothing
Z690 and Z790 Creator owner, I took it down because there's no airflow over that heatsink with the cover obstructing it

Are there any measurements of difference with and without cover?

 

[Timbaloo]

Idle power consumption would be interesting, considering 10GbE, especially with 10GbE having an active connection. Feature rich boards also tend to have a high(er) idle power consumption.

 

[Tek-Check]

I have this motherboard. Quite happy with it. All components work as intended. Minor quirk is slightly longer boot time with EXPO on, but nothing serious enough.

DP IN port is a great asset too, to bring GPU signal in.

x8/x4/x4 Gen5 division of primary x16 slot is super useful and cannot be found on many boards.

Highly recommended. I can see that new shipments on Newegg are priced $599. Oouch! There's one with open box at $408. Increasing number of Microcenter stores have it sold out. Think that second shipments will be more expensive. Buy until you can, if you are interested.

 

[DarbyOGill]

I have the X670-E version of this board and the 10GbE never worked right. Very annoying considering it was the main reason I chose this mobo. Hopefully this updated board has fixed the issue.

 

[Chrispy_]

I have the X670E version and it's honestly the best mobo I've bought. It's stable without all the "gamer" features I'll never use.

Is stability anything to do with the motherboard?

The motherboard is basically just traces and a chipset, the E-versions just use two of the exact same chipset that the "gamer" boards use.

I guess if you're buying bargain-bin A620 or the cheapest B650 board with a puny 4+1-phase VRM lacking heatsinks for a 9950X then yes, I can imagine stability is a concern, but the majority of median-priced B650/B850 boards have overkill VRMs. I do wish they'd stop being branded "gamer" because there's nothing gaming-specific about any of their features and I could do without the edgy graphics and styling.

Onboard 10Gbe and PD USB-C.

Fair.

I don't consider 10GbE an expensive addition as single-port NICs are in the $25-30 range with a variety of controllers based on your preference, but USB-C PD is situationally useful and way more convenient if it's integrated into the board's ports.

 

[_roman_]

you will only find 650/850 class boards in that price range on AM5.

My asus prime x670-p mainboard + ryzen 7600x + 2 mousepads + shipping + star wars jedi survivor = have cost 400€ in may 2023.
that mainboard, regardless with or without wifi is since than in europe always available for 220-250€, that includes 19 or 20% tax.

If you really need pcie 5.0 on the graphic card slot is another topic. Not every board has pcie 5.0x16 lanes on the graphic card slot. I most likely trash that mainboard+cpu in 3 years and move on anyway.

MSI and gigabyte also have similar boards afaik. It's a matter if you really need pcie 5.0 on the graphic card slot ans usb4

 

[zmeul]

Are there any measurements of difference with and without cover?

on my Z790 20deg avg less
when the video card's fans kick in, the temp hovers to around 50deg C

 

[pabzab]

« Only one PCIe Gen 5 M.2 port that doesn't steal bandwidth » is there any motherboard from any brand that offer the possibility of dual gen 5 m2 in combination with a full featured PCIE gen 5 x16 lanes ?