ASUS Radeon RX 5700 XT STRIX OC

[HenrySomeone]

rx5700st strix is 5.2% faster than 5700xt +0,7% oc= 105.9% (1440p)
2070 super FE is 11,4% faster than 5700xt stock so 6,6% faster than 5700xt strix asus oc (1440p)
2070 Gaming X trio is 3% faster than 2070 fe + does 6% oc, so 15% faster than 5700xt strix oc. (1440p)
2070 trio is 10 degrees cooler and 8db quieter at stock or 15 degrees cooler and 4db quieter if 5700xt is on quiet bios.
both card draw around 230w in gaming load and similarly in idle,but 5700xt draws 26w more in multi monitor mode which probably means no fan stop when 2 or more monitors are connected.

looks like the card from asus is a dud at 500 quid,waiting for sapphire to deliver better acoustics and thermals.

Well as they say - you can't polish a turd...

 

[cucker tarlson]

Well as they say - you can't polish a turd...

good card,just not worth 500 quid.they're finding it hard to cool down a 250mm2 gpu that draws 240w,but no friggin wonder they do.250mm gpus are rarely that power hungry.It's just sad that the most expensive AIB version of navi runs hotter,noisier and has less oc headroom than reference nvidia cards.Nitro+ is the only hope at this point,but I bet it'll be good.

 

[Shatun_Bear]

Reading the review, it seems W1zzard has been converted to AMD's Navi.

It's quite glowing, in contradiction to lots of troll posts on here trying to diminish what looks like a good release

 

[cucker tarlson]

Reading the review, it seems W1zzard has been converted to AMD's Navi.

It's quite glowing, in contradiction to lots of troll posts on here trying to diminish what looks like a good release

it's a good card,the release could've been A LOT better.

 

[Shatun_Bear]

it's a good card,the release could've been A LOT better.

I don't understand.

Anyway, the Pulse is even better value at $409, at that price 2060 Supes and all its custom models are a no buy.

 

[las]

Nearly 100 bucks more expensive and yada yada, bu tit has RTX!

Yeah. Good that you've figured OC-ing on 2070s was way below 10-15% that your imagination has drawn, (assuming 3-4% qualifies as "well below 10-15%", right?)


I shouldn't have checked test results for Forza...
And when people think you are biased in green favour, just know that you give good reasons to think so. (and no, I'm not buying "I refuse to use Microsoft Store (on a bloody TEST MACHINE)")

Stop being mad because truth hurts, please.

 

[medi01]

2070 Gaming X trio is 3% faster than 2070 fe + does 6% oc

It does 3% overclock.

I recommend to check more test sites for the RX 5700 XT's performance. They are much closer to the 2070S compared to the original TPU review. Techspot f. e. only measured 2% difference between the ref RX 5700XT and ref 2070S.

And it also features a dozen games, not just 3-4. I love TPU and I start reading reviews here (and Guru3D) then go to Techspot, but I'm not really convinced of the newly selected games for the reviews. For example we have Ace Combat 7, which is a non-mainstream game and the performance of AMD cards there is pathetic (RX5700 is 10% behind a 1660Ti, WTF), while a more mainstream racing game, Forza is not included in the test (where AMD cards lead NV counterparts by nearly the same percentage as in AC7). I also don't really get why Darksiders 3 or Divinity Original Sin 2 is included.


Nope. This card is 500 pounds at OCUK, the SAME as the Strix 2060S.

Well, someone needs to tell them to stop "accepting Windows Store", and replace Forza Horizon 4 with AC7. While the former is much more popular, the latter does wonders to overall score, 2070s is 50% faster than 5700XT in that technological masterpiece.

Yeah 2% or 9%, add 6% OC potential to that, 2070S still 10% faster.

2% difference stock vs stock, with 6% "OC potential" ends up "10% faster".
That's quite an advanced math, mind you.

Note that 2070s card that does gain 6%, out of the box is very mildly OCed, with only 3% advantage vs ref.


In reality you have:
Ref vs Ref +2% 2070Super
AIB vs AIB, it depends, but with those referenced by green tucker, it is +5% for AMD, +3% for NV, a tie

OC brings you about 1% on AMD, 6% on NV in a single benchmark. Which ends up being +5% for 2070Super, OC vs OC, for $100 more

 

[W1zzard]

Reading the review, it seems W1zzard has been converted to AMD's Navi.

Nope, I'm as impartial as possible. These AIB cards are simply really good, much better than expected, especially given the disaster that the reference boards were.

 

[nguyen]

It does 3% overclock.
Well, someone needs to tell them to stop "accepting Windows Store", and replace Forza Horizon 4 with AC7. While the former is much more popular, the latter does wonders to overall score, 2070s is 50% faster than 5700XT in that technological masterpiece.
2% difference stock vs stock, with 6% "OC potential" ends up "10% faster".
That's quite an advanced math, mind you.
Note that 2070s card that does gain 6%, out of the box is very mildly OCed, with only 3% advantage vs ref.
In reality you have:
Ref vs Ref +2% 2070Super
AIB vs AIB, it depends, but with those referenced by green tucker, it is +5% for AMD, +3% for NV, a tie
OC brings you about 1% on AMD, 6% on NV in a single benchmark. Which ends up being +5% for 2070Super, OC vs OC, for $100 more

Well stop crying, Strange Brigade is technically an AMD tech demo and it's in the benchmark suit, also AC7 which is sold on Steam definitely got more sales than FH4 (AC7 got 5700 reviews on Steam vs FH4's 1900 reviews on MS store).

Since you can't do basic math I will just explain to you why everyone came up with 10% for 2070 Super

See that Palit 2070 Super got 161.6fps when OC and ref 2070 Super got 145.8fps, 161.6/145.8 = 10.8%
Doing the same for 5700 XT Red Devil we got 4.5% OC vs ref.
Ref vs Ref 2070 Super is 11% faster than 5700XT in 1440p, + 6.3% (10.8 - 4.5) additional OC headroom that means OC vs OC 2070 Super is 17% faster than 5700XT.

You can do the same maths at Guru3d overclocking section, they benched 4 games: Witcher 3, Strange Bridgade, Deus Ex, SoTR (2 AMD 2 Nvidia games), basically any 2070 Super model once OC will be 12% faster than 5700 XT OC avg across 4 games.

 

[jabbadap]

Nope, I'm as impartial as possible. These AIB cards are simply really good, much better than expected, especially given the disaster that the reference boards were.

Well that Evoke thing from MSI was a bit noise one. Not a bad per see, but worst of the AIB models you have reviewed. And indeed you noted it with different badge. But then again, these are higher end models from AIB:s, do you have some lower end designs on the queue?

(Well the sapphire pulse was really good for the low price premium over reference)

 

[W1zzard]

do you have some lower end designs on the queue?

nope, maybe as things stabilize in terms of releases. but as usual, board vendors don't want to send their lower-end models

 

[las]

Well stop crying, Strange Brigade is technically an AMD tech demo and it's in the benchmark suit, also AC7 which is sold on Steam definitely got more sales than FH4 (AC7 got 5700 reviews on Steam vs FH4's 1900 reviews on MS store).

Since you can't do basic math I will just explain to you why everyone came up with 10% for 2070 Super

See that Palit 2070 Super got 161.6fps when OC and ref 2070 Super got 145.8fps, 161.6/145.8 = 10.8%
Doing the same for 5700 XT Red Devil we got 4.5% OC vs ref.
Ref vs Ref 2070 Super is 11% faster than 5700XT in 1440p, + 6.3% (10.8 - 4.5) additional OC headroom that means OC vs OC 2070 Super is 17% faster than 5700XT.

You can do the same maths at Guru3d overclocking section, they benched 4 games: Witcher 3, Strange Bridgade, Deus Ex, SoTR (2 AMD 2 Nvidia games), basically any 2070 Super model once OC will be 12% faster than 5700 XT OC avg across 4 games.

He refuse to understand, because he already bought or plan to buy a 5700 or 5700 XT
Everyone that understands basic math can see that 2070 Super is the better card, OC vs OC. 2070 Super is; Faster. Cooler. Quieter. Supports way more features too. NVEnc. Ray Tracing. etc.

Even 2060 Super could match 5700 XT with some OC and is the same price + comes bundled with 2 game keys you can sell.
It won't take long before AMD lowers prices for Navi even more than they already did. AMD always lowers prices over time.
This is also the reason why you can't really sell old AMD stuff, because it's worth peanuts after a few years.

 

[medi01]

Strange Brigade is technically an AMD tech demo

No.

AC7 which is sold on Steam definitely got more sales than FH4

Hooligan Vasja is also on Steam, should definitely get more sales than FH4!

that means OC vs OC 2070 Super is 17% faster than 5700XT.

 

[bug]

He refuse to understand, because he already bought or plan to buy a 5700 or 5700 XT
Everyone that understands basic math can see that 2070 Super is the better card, OC vs OC. 2070 Super is; Faster. Cooler. Quieter. Supports way more features too. NVEnc. Ray Tracing. etc.

Even 2060 Super could match 5700 XT with some OC and is the same price + comes bundled with 2 game keys you can sell.
It won't take long before AMD lowers prices for Navi even more than they already did. AMD always lowers prices over time.
This is also the reason why you can't really sell old AMD stuff, because it's worth peanuts after a few years.

Oh, come on. He's firmly into AMD's camp and won't accept any criticism of their products, but "better card" because "faster. cooler. quieter", really?
It's a bit faster, all right, but for $100 more, that doesn't mean it's going to be everyone's pick.
And cooler and quieter go out the window when you realize they both have the same power draw in gaming. Which means there's no reason customs designs will be louder on one side.

I know medi is often ridiculous trying to praise everything AMD does, but let's no go the opposite way, ok?

 

[las]

Oh, come on. He's firmly into AMD's camp and won't accept any criticism of their products, but "better card" because "faster. cooler. quieter", really?
It's a bit faster, all right, but for $100 more, that doesn't mean it's going to be everyone's pick.
And cooler and quieter go out the window when you realize they both have the same power draw in gaming. Which means there's no reason customs designs will be louder on one side.

I know medi is often ridiculous trying to praise everything AMD does, but let's no go the opposite way, ok?

I don't have any personal interest in either of these cards, it looks to me tho, that custom 2070 Super is still quieter and cooler than custom 5700 XT on average, based on all the TPU reviews.
There's many loud custom cards on the AMD side still. While there exists several sub 30dB load cards on the Nvidia side, plus performance is better.

2060 Super and 5700 XT will be fairly identical in performance when both are overclocked. Same price. Sell the gamekeys and 2060 Super is the cheaper option.

This is why I think Navi needs additional pricecuts.

Jup generally if you play any indie game that happen to be good (Ace Combat 7, Frostpunk, Road to Eden, Original Sin 2, etc...) best to go with Nvidia, chances that those game are running DX11 and don't even need Nvidia optimized driver to run well. If you only play shitty loot box ridden AAA games that EA and Activision pump out every year (Battlefield, Star Wars, Call of duty, etc...) then Navi is a fine choice.

There are plenty of games that sit at the top of steam players count and are hardware killers but not often show up in reviews:
ARK: Survival Evolved, No Man's Sky, Arma 3, Rust, etc...guess which one favor Nvidia ?

Also with the current rise of Epic game store, there are more and more AAA titles running UE4 and Nvidia just owns those games. New UE4 games coming out are Borderlands 3, The Outer Worlds, FF VII Remake, S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2, Outriders, System Shock, Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2, etc...

Agree, Nvidia has the upper hand in many popular titles.
AMD is generally cheaper for a reason.

I think B450 + Ryzen 3600 + Custom 5700/5700XT is good value tho.

 

[bug]

I don't have any personal interest in either of these cards, it looks to me tho, that custom 2070 Super is still quieter and cooler than custom 5700 XT on average, based on all the TPU reviews.
There's many loud custom cards on the AMD side still. While there exists several sub 30dB load cards on the Nvidia side, plus performance is better.

2060 Super and 5700 XT will be fairly identical in performance when both are overclocked. Same price. Sell the gamekeys and 2060 Super is the cheaper option.

This is why I think Navi needs additional pricecuts.

This is a never ending discussion. Cards from both makers are always slotted a little above or below what the other side offers. They're also almost always priced a little lower or higher to account for that. Factor in TDP and noise if you wish and make a buying purchase. Just don't try to determine that one card is inherently better than other when they're so closely matched. That only works in two cards are priced about the same, but offer performance like >20% apart.

And let's be honest here, you have the 1080Ti, these aren't much of an upgrade for you, I have the 1060 and I'm not spending $400 on a video card... We really don't care that much

 

[las]

This is a never ending discussion. Cards from both makers are always slotted a little above or below what the other side offers. They're also almost always priced a little lower or higher to account for that. Factor in TDP and noise if you wish and make a buying purchase. Just don't try to determine that one card is inherently better than other when they're so closely matched. That only works in two cards are priced about the same, but offer performance like >20% apart.

And let's be honest here, you have the 1080Ti, these aren't much of an upgrade for you, I have the 1060 and I'm not spending $400 on a video card... We really don't care that much

I'm not touching anything before Ampere next year.
2000 series have been a joke, still enough to hold AMD off tho.
If Super cards had come on day one, it would have looked better for 2000 series.

 

[bug]

I'm not touching anything before Ampere next year.
2000 series have been a joke, still enough to hold AMD off tho.
If Super cards had come on day one, it would have looked better for 2000 series.

I've posted several time before that if AMD wasn't such a no-show, Turing wouldn't have happened in the first place. Obviously the dies were too large for consumer prices, but without having to worry about AMD, Nvidia just said "what the heck". It's still intriguing to me, because I have been waiting for RTRT for ages, but I have no illusions, I'm in the minority here. And Ampere, as much as we can guess it will be better than Turing, we don't know what it will improve on. Or when it will land. But then again, your card will do for quite a while and I have stopped gaming anyway. So we're cool.

 

[Rahnak]

At 559€ for the Strix and 519€ for the TUF versions of the 5700 XT, Asus just priced themselves right out of the market. The MSI Evoke 5700 XT in comparison is 455€. Madness.

 

[windcaller]

Well stop crying, Strange Brigade is technically an AMD tech demo and it's in the benchmark suit, also AC7 which is sold on Steam definitely got more sales than FH4 (AC7 got 5700 reviews on Steam vs FH4's 1900 reviews on MS store).

Since you can't do basic math I will just explain to you why everyone came up with 10% for 2070 Super

See that Palit 2070 Super got 161.6fps when OC and ref 2070 Super got 145.8fps, 161.6/145.8 = 10.8%
Doing the same for 5700 XT Red Devil we got 4.5% OC vs ref.
Ref vs Ref 2070 Super is 11% faster than 5700XT in 1440p, + 6.3% (10.8 - 4.5) additional OC headroom that means OC vs OC 2070 Super is 17% faster than 5700XT.

You can do the same maths at Guru3d overclocking section, they benched 4 games: Witcher 3, Strange Bridgade, Deus Ex, SoTR (2 AMD 2 Nvidia games), basically any 2070 Super model once OC will be 12% faster than 5700 XT OC avg across 4 games.

Strange brigade is not for amd.. is towards nvidia chipset family.
And sure, vice versa forza, but it is nvidia's driver optimizing problem.
Actually performance per dollar of 5700xt is better than 2070super, you can't deny it and plus bullshit DLSS and super hyped ray trash thing?
RIS has just pull up navi to another level as it can show every game which is dx12, dx9, vulkan based game to have more detailed visual like advantage you can get from upscaling.
Even without mentioning RIS, every reviewer said that 5700xt has better value than 2070super or same msrp 2060super(this is very poor value since released 5700xt)
And palit is way too expensive as it is priced a bit less than watercooled model. +180usd from msi 5700xt evoke.

 

[nguyen]

wow Strange Brigade not an AMD tech demo ? you wish, it was basically in every AMD's tech press.

AMD Brings Faster Performance and Advanced Features to Strange Brigade

Today, gamers around the world will face off against an ancient, forgotten evil power in the highly anticipated Strange Brigade. AMD and Rebellion have worked closely to ensure smooth, immersive gameplay on Radeon RX Graphics in Strange Brigade.FreeSync 2 HDR: Brings low-latency, high-brightness...

www.techpowerup.com

And this is how many people play strange brigade

Strange Brigade - Steam Charts

An ongoing analysis of Steam's player numbers, seeing what's been played the most.

steamcharts.com

At most 1300 concurrent players at launch lol. Talk about being AMD tech demo like Ashes of Singularity.

I just picked the worst 2070 Super out of the bunch, still a better overclocker than the best 5700XT out there.

In case you haven't been informed, Nvidia just kinda incorporated RIS and Low input latency mode into their new driver, called freestyle sharpening and ultra low latency. So yeah there is nothing AMD can do that Nvidia can't but not the other way around sadly.

5700XT has better value when it is priced at 400usd, not 450usd+ that AIB are charging

 

[medi01]

wow Strange Brigade not an AMD tech demo ?

Nope.

I just picked the worst 2070 Super out of the bunch, still a better overclocker

Which one was it, with 3% or 4% gpu oc? Oh, wait, those are the best oclockrs, lol.

 

[nguyen]

Nope.

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Which one was it, with 3% or 4% gpu oc? Oh, wait, those are the best oclockrs, lol.

I dont know why you keep posting Techspot result when what you are looking for is right on TPU reviews.

Also right on the first picture of the article that you mention

Can you read the white text ?

Radeon 7 Launch

Navi Launch

Well Nvidia kinda ruin AMD little fun by improving their performance in Strange brigade, I dont know why they bothered, probably because AMD review guidelines forcing reviewers to bench Strange Brigade and Nvidia don't want to look bad. For me it should have been called AotS 2, a little tech demo that is even more useless than 3Dmark.