Batman's CaseLabs Mercury S8 Work Computer

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Really Dood? your wife is going to lov

I was joking

 

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Awwwh, you should get it for her.

Like my gf said, it pulled her out of her (sea) shell. lol.

Now, she's not shy anymore.

 

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I was joking

They have a version 2.0 now, buy it for your lovely wife.

We don't go out, yet I always stay up on New Years.

Anyhoo, this lovely brush will be here in 10days for Alina. Gorgeous.

She got me the Simpson Chubby 2 for my birthday in October, so I must return the favor, with the Chubby 3 lol.

 

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Since I'm here might as well vent.

The Siliconlottery guy doesn't talk to me anymore. Not since I discovered the NO VIDEO on the Apex 11 rear I/O. And that's a bad thing?

Yea he doesn't return my emails anymore, I guess because he's an engineer and I'm a doctor and engineers hate doctors who supercede their opinion?

I was only trying to help. geez, we're all in this together.

 

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What happened last night?

Dude, where's my car?

 

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Setting the Way Back Machine to December 2015, hey Knoxxy, here's my Maximus VIII Extreme when brand new, loved that board. Changed all the red to white with some small hobby brushes and removed the VRM air sinks and went with a monoblock and very short water loop.

This first pic looks like flashing the bios chips, no 6700K yet, was probably still waiting on it to arrive.

Those PSU cables look really stiff, the Seasonic might have been recently unboxed also, that was a very nice Platinum 750watt unit, sold it, now using two Seasonic Prime Titaniums 850watt in hybrid fan mode for the all around rig, and 600watt Titanium fanless for the Batman.

 

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Maximus VIII Extreme

That's a great Motherboard.

 

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That's a great Motherboard.

Yup, so was the Maximus V Extreme, think I have an old photo of that board also.

Hey, there's still beer in the minifridge, Woooooooot

A 3770K at 5.2Ghz, not too shabby for Ivy Bridge. All that overclocking was melting my ice cream.

The one pic is how you isolate a D5 to inaudible, with (4) Sorbothane Hemispheres durometer 50 supporting the entire mass of the pump, pump top, fittings and thermal probes.

We're watching The Great Race, a wonderful comedy from the 1960s. lol

 

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We're getting very close now.

 

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gf: set up the Dual-Personality Ports to “susie cream cheese adorable” and “nasty biotch” and let them fight it out.

She tells a good hardware joke. lol

 

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Heard back from Siliconlottery bro. I guess he wasn't mad at me after all, big whoooooops on my part.

...He was just busy over the holidays.

Said he put up a brand new 8700K binned at 5.3Ghz, that won't last long. When we move to 10nm and a new architecture IPC should increase, yet frequencies always decrease, so Ice Lake or Sunny Cove, whatever Intel calls it, those high bins will probably drop back to 5.0 or 5.1 by SL's fixed testing methodology. I'm only hoping there's still a 6core 12thread CPU offered in Series 10.

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And we got a free shipping upgrade on the Simpson Manchurian shave brush from the Isle of Man. No idea why, I selected the super-cheapest-longest-wait shipping option available, Her Majesty's Royal Post or something like that. lol , and they upgraded us to FedEx, and sent tracking info. I guess it's a courtesy they extend to repeat customers, idk.

Anyway, gf is excited it's on it's way.

Apex 11 should become available to purchase between today and this Friday, I'm checking about every 2hours. Still can't believe ROG would wait until CES Las Vegas when the EVGA Z390 DARK takes center stage, but you never know.

That 8700K 5.3GHz bin is GONE SOLD! Knoxxy probably snagged it for our upcoming Battle of the Coffee Lakes.

Another 8700K 5.3GHz bin just went up! That's impossible. Not impossible, yet highly unlikely and statistically improbable since only 4 of 100 bin to 5.3.

 

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Change in plans, going to wait until CES and watch both boards launch side by side. The awesome Intel Optane lower capacity PCIe AIC and M.2-U.2 drives will also be announced next week, really wanted to get both mobo and drives and finish this build at the same time once and for all. The Apex XI wait is/was driving me KAZOOOH! Putting it behind me, maybe I'll stop being an ROG guy and just go with EVGA boards from here on out.

It's been fun Asus.

Sincerely,

Bruce Wayne

 

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I believe the equation on the previous page calculating memory latency or responsiveness may be OFF by one decimal point, still measuring in nanoseconds.

According to the AIDA64 Extreme Memory Latency Benchmark (screenshot below) my GSkill Trident Z 2X8GB 3200Mhz 14CAS kit is performing at 42.5ns with only XMP 2.0 setup in bios and no further overclocking.

Yet for the sake of comparison kit to kit, the equation is still perfectly valid.

I’ve seen one reviewer overclock the 3200Mhz 14CAS Trident Z kit to 4000Mhz 13CAS, which will give you a much lower latency in nanoseconds than buying a 4600Mhz 19CAS kit and setting up XMP. Plus very few motherboards will run 4500Mhz 4600Mhz 4800Mhz kits and even some CPUs memory controllers have difficulty, so why pay for those extremely expensive memory kits?

I guess that was my only point. An engineer friend of mine said he was waiting for the Maximus 11 Apex to launch and then usually Gskill will offer an even faster kit that only runs on the Apex 11, slightly faster than the last generation, and I thought to myself WHY? When you can achieve much lower latency by overclocking a much cheaper 3200Mhz 14CAS kit.


3200/14 kit (set at XMP)
14 x 1000/3200 = 4.375ns

4600/19 kit (set at XMP)
19 x 1000/4600 = 4.130ns

3200/14 kit (OC'd to 4000/13)
13 x 1000/4000 = 3.250ns


So these results may be off by one decimal point from the AIDA 64 Extreme screenshot below, but still I’m going to learn how to overclock my 3200/14 Trident Z kits, I have a dual and a quad (that I could separate into 2 dual kits), and overclocking those kits should give better overall results.

You could also make the argument that the 4600/19 kit could also be overclocked past XMP 2.0 settings, yet how far could you really go? Gskill has already pushed these kits to only operate in one or two QVL motherboards, how much headroom is really left? I wouldn’t think very much at all, if any.

Another argument could be made that there’s more to memory performance than low latency. Ok, I understand that. If you’re using highly memory intensive work apps that also benefit from memory speed and throughput? Ok, but wouldn’t those workflows require more memory capacity (more throughput) than what 2DIMM slots of 4600MHz can currently provide? 4DIMMs of DDR4 Dual kit or a Quad kit with 8DIMMs and the HEDT platform as a better option?

I’ve not looked into that aspect of memory performance since none of my work apps are memory throughput intensive, so for my use case, I’ve only concentrated on the lowest latency most responsive kits and configurations I can find.

 

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OH MY!

The brand new ROG Rampage VI Extreme Omega.

LOOK at the VRM heatsink on this monster! LOOK at all those chokes and mosfets extending even behind the memory slots!

I wish the Maximus XI Extreme and Apex XI were this beautiful.

ROG had to reposition the Start and Reset buttons because that heatsink is SO DAMN BIG!

It's so phenomenal!

...and there’s also a new ROG X399 Threadripper Zenith Extreme Alpha board, equally phenomenal.

 

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"Never feed them after midnight"

The Chubbies are multiplying.

The bristles splay into a fan shape after about the third use, as can be seen in the two month old sapphire blue hologram Chubby. Yet when new they arrive a very narrow bulb shape, freshly trimmed from the factory.

Simpson claims over 20,000 bristles per Chubby - very densely packed - lather making machines.

The Trouble with Chubbies.

 

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Video from CES Las Vegas 2019: EVGA Z390 DARK board coverage begins at 3:15. Steve of Gamer's Nexus says there will be a Buildzoid deep dive tear-down analysis of the motherboard’s VRM section upcoming. 100% certain Buildzoid will also tear-down the ROG Maximus XI Apex board, when he gets his hands on one.

Earlier in the video Steve covers the EVGA 2080Ti KingPin video card.

On the subject of video cards, saw this EVGA 2080Ti FTW3 XC Ultra on Good Tom Logan’s OC3D video review mounted with the extra totally unnecessary fan protective shroud part (EVGA calls it a fan shield lol ) and thought to myself, yes, it's silly and non-functional, yet WOW the Batman aesthetic this thing exudes. WOW again.

Batman's Video Card

Today, soaking (5) Hardware Labs SR2 Multiport carbon black radiators in the Mayhems Blitz Part 1 acid solution for 12hours.

Radiator Surface Area for the build:

120mm x 60mm x qty(4) = 480mm x 60mm

240mm x 60mm x qty(1) = 240mm x 60mm

Total: 720mm - equivalent to 360mm x qty(2), not too shabby for cooling only a single highly overclocked 8086K 6-core 12-thread.

So far my favorite O/C profiles for the 8086K 5.3Ghz bin/delid processor are the straight up 5.4GHz all-core all-thread - all day long, and the 5.6GHz (5.6-5.5-5.4-5.2-5.2-5.2) single-core boost profile, I call the Bat-Boost Turbo Technology 4.0. ...which seems slightly more responsive.

Bat-Boost Turbo Technology 4.0 (screenshot explains how to set it up in bios)

1C 5.6Ghz
2C 5.5Ghz
3C 5.4Ghz
4C 5.2Ghz
5C 5.2Ghz
6C 5.2Ghz

Back to those radiators:

The thought process behind the 120mm and 240mm rads mounted either side of the radiator mount is simple. A single 360mm rad would offer (8) ports either "front OR rear" of the chassis, yet a 120mm and 240mm mounted end to end - slightly overlapped offer (8) ports "BOTH front AND rear" of the chassis.

Sadly, both 120mm and 240mm would not mount on the same side of the CaseLabs 360mm external rad mount due to the lack of chassis depth and the added radiator length of the end ports themselves. So my only choice was one rad mounted on either side of the mounting bracket, absolutely 100% a "form follows function" build, that's why it's so darn ugly. Sacrificed aesthetics early on for functionality, usability and inaudibility - all three of which are off the charts immeasurable with this Batman work build.

 

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Steve of Gamer's Nexus

Who is he?

 

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Who is he?

Sup Knoxxypoo?

Steve has the Gamer's Nexus youtube channel (they should rename it Hardware Breakdown and Overclocking imho) and he and Buildzoid breakdown and deep-dive motherboards and video cards for technical and performance analysis. It's very informative, but I only watch maybe 1 in 25 of his videos, I skim the titles for only hardware I may use for this build. Steve is out in Las Vegas for CES 2019, his coverage is ALWAYS outstanding for the trade shows, so I'm watching his channel this week for info on mobos video cards and of course Intel Optane 905P drives in the lower capacities to announce.

 

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Now i understand why i dont know him, Youtubers and Streamers are not my kind of thing.

 

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Now i understand why i dont know him, Youtubers and Streamers are not my kind of thing.

I know how you feel, most YouTube tech channels seems like their audience is only for beginners; how many times can you watch the SAME $500 Gaming Build? lol.

Nothing I'm interested in currently, but I was a beginner once, so I understand. Good Tom Logan of OC3D TV, he "overviews" the ROG boards very nicely when they launch, and Gamer's Nexus and Buildzoid get into the individual components of motherboards and video cards and Der8auer's channel is very informative when he delids new CPU generations to see how Intel has constructed the solder or thermal paste.

None of the channels are 100%, yet if you scan the titles you will find "some real gems of information" that are very usable and interesting, here and there, pick and choose.

OC3D TV Tom Logan's channel for well done motherboard overviews, not so much reviews
Gamer's Nexus Steve's channel for tear-downs and thermals
Der8auer's channel for CPU new generation delidding and overclocking motherboard specifics
Allyn Malventano storage articles at PC Perspective for anything Optane related. (He's gone now, working for Intel)

I don't really watch or read hardware reviews for the reviewer's POV - after doing this for awhile. The reviewer's will often describe the pros and cons of a component's capabilities only for a certain specific use case they are familiar with, which may be and usually is the opposite or mostly unrelated to that of my work related use case. Doesn't mean they are wrong, they have only a limited amount of time with a component and there's no way they can cover every possible use scenario.

So I just read for information and NOT so much their opinions, but that's just me.

 

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Today i am an old Man that with many years into the Tech/Overclocking/Watercooling world i have learned quiet enough to do things myself without the need to watch any YouTuber/reviewer

 

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Today i am an old Man that with many years into the Tech/Overclocking/Watercooling world i have learned quiet enough to do things myself without the need to watch any YouTuber/reviewer

Still need to learn how to properly spell the word quite, and capitalize those personal pronouns while your at it. Just Kidding. lol

We neber stawp lorning brather! lololol

 

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Still need to learn how to properly spell the word quite,

Sorry i am at work and sometimes i dont pay attention when i am writing

 

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Sorry i am at work and sometimes i dont pay attention when i am writing

I'm just messing with you bro, nobody's composing The Great American Novel here - express yourself freely. lolol

...and thanks for stopping by.

I need to go check my radiators soaking and swimming in the bath tub.

 

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I'm just messing with you ma

I know you are