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I wanted another crack at this to see if I could come up with something a little different based on my previous list. I agree you can still swap out for an intel rig for similar pricing, but I left these in from my last list for convenience:

https://pt.pcpartpicker.com/list/ZyF3pB
CPU: AMD 7800X3D (€379.89)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool LS720 SE WH 85.85 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (€106.90)
Motherboard: ASRock X670E Steel Legend ATX AM5 (wi-fi) (€339.90)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€136.50)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€145.70)
Video Card: Zotac GAMING Trinity OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card (€799.91)
Case: be quiet! Pure Base 500DX white (€120.96)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 Snow 850W (12VHPWR ATX3.0) (€164.90)
Total: €2194.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

I know, more options to consider lol. So for AMD GPUs, you can get a white 7900GRE for €679.90, but it's a notable downgrade. They show no white 7900XT cards available in your region. I opted for the 4070 Ti as it looks nice, and is so close to the Ti Super in performance I'm not sure it's worth the 123 Euros difference in price, which allowed me to bump you up to a nicer power supply and a case I like better. Of course cases are personal preference. The Torrent performs really well with air coolers, but not as well for AIOs, and your first list had an AIO, so I wanted to swap out to something that works great with AIOs (I also love be quiet! cases).
 

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I wanted another crack at this to see if I could come up with something a little different based on my previous list. I agree you can still swap out for an intel rig for similar pricing, but I left these in from my last list for convenience:

https://pt.pcpartpicker.com/list/ZyF3pB
CPU: AMD 7800X3D (€379.89)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool LS720 SE WH 85.85 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (€106.90)
Motherboard: ASRock X670E Steel Legend ATX AM5 (wi-fi) (€339.90)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€136.50)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€145.70)
Video Card: Zotac GAMING Trinity OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card (€799.91)
Case: be quiet! Pure Base 500DX white (€120.96)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 Snow 850W (12VHPWR ATX3.0) (€164.90)
Total: €2194.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

I know, more options to consider lol. So for AMD GPUs, you can get a white 7900GRE for €679.90, but it's a notable downgrade. They show no white 7900XT cards available in your region. I opted for the 4070 Ti as it looks nice, and is so close to the Ti Super in performance I'm not sure it's worth the 123 Euros difference in price, which allowed me to bump you up to a nicer power supply and a case I like better. Of course cases are personal preference. The Torrent performs really well with air coolers, but not as well for AIOs, and your first list had an AIO, so I wanted to swap out to something that works great with AIOs (I also love be quiet! cases).
Nice, I do think going for the 4070 Ti Super with its 16 GB VRAM is a good idea though, considering how long OP kept their previous build, based on a 7700K. To the extent I seriously think a 7700X build with a 4070 Ti S would be preferable to a 7800X3D with a 4070 Ti. OP is targetting 60 FPS remember, so a super powerful CPU isn't really critical.

I wonder how practical it is to just deshroud the card, spray paint it white, then put it back :laugh: , no white color tax.
 
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Nice, I do think going for the 4070 Ti Super with its 16 GB VRAM is a good idea though, considering how long OP kept their previous build, based on a 7700K. To the extent I seriously think a 7700X build with a 4070 Ti S would be preferable to a 7800X3D with a 4070 Ti. OP is targetting 60 FPS remember, so a super powerful CPU isn't really critical.

I wonder how practical it is to just deshroud the card, spray paint it white, then put it back :laugh: , no white color tax.
I'm not sure how soon 12GB is going to be a problem at 1440p, but that's really up to OP and what games they like to play probably.

Yes, the white tax is a thing lol. Sometimes you just have to vibe though and they said it was important to them as something they always wanted to do and when I get involved in these conversations or try to help people find things, I do really try to pick things that fit their theme. As you can see from my build, I am the opposite (darker the better for my parts) so it's obviously not what I would pick.
 

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I'm not sure how soon 12GB is going to be a problem at 1440p, but that's really up to OP and what games they like to play probably.

Yes, the white tax is a thing lol. Sometimes you just have to vibe though and they said it was important to them as something they always wanted to do and when I get involved in these conversations or try to help people find things, I do really try to pick things that fit their theme. As you can see from my build, I am the opposite (darker the better for my parts) so it's obviously not what I would pick.
Chatting with OP it seems he's favoring this at the moment, cheaper RAM that's still very close to the performance of the 7200 kit, not guaranteed A die though as the 7200 MT kit would be, better PSU with a 10 year warranty.

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pt.pcpartpicker.com/list/9zF3pB

CPU: Intel Core i7-14700K 3.4 GHz 20-Core Processor (€454.90 @ Globaldata)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler (€66.80 @ Switch Technology)
Motherboard: MSI PRO Z790-A MAX WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (€247.01 @ PC Componentes)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-7000 CL34 Memory (€179.90 @ Globaldata)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€145.70 @ Império Multimédia)
Video Card: Zotac GAMING Trinity GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card (€863.04 @ PC Componentes)
Case: Fractal Design Torrent Compact ATX Mid Tower Case (€119.90 @ PCDIGA)
Power Supply: be quiet! Dark Power 13 750 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€244.42 @ PC Componentes)
Total: €2321.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-23 15:57 WEST+0100

I've built with the Dark Power 13 before and been quite impressed, though I'm personally an SFX man these days.

Gotta love dual DIMM slot ITX mobos and tiny PSUs. Faster RAM OC and more compact builds. The Singularity Phantom 2 ITX case I'm considering allows for full ATX PSUs though which is tempting, as could go for a passive 700 W unit.
 
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I'm surprised you have an Nvidia GPU on your laptop, considering how adamant you were about the AMD Advantagebrought by Ryzen | Radeon :laugh:

Time to play some games the way they were meant to be played;)
Yes and you know what Nvidia did that pissed me off? They changed the GPU to the 3050 for the next upgrade in the same price bracket and was replaced by the 4050. All with 2GB less VRAM for the same price and then more. The thing is at the time they were the best way to get into Gaming and actually appeared on the Steam charts rather quickly during Covid. It felt like the Company was actually caring about Gamers and they threw that in our face. Now a high end Gaming laptop is in the range of $5000 but again AMD has a laptop from Acer that should be about $799 where I live with those 7840 APU that should satisfy the end of the Gaming laptop market Nvidia decided to abandon. As far as AMD advantage goes. It did not exist when I bought my laptop in 2021 so. I am also pretty sure they changed the panel to 1440P but I might be wrong. As far as I am concerned 3060 laptop for 1080P is more than enough but that machine actually mines crypto now. You are correct though I am a fan of AMD advantage when the IGPU/GPU and CPU (especially with Vacahe) make 4k Gaming an extremely joyful experience. It 's hot and I have been drinking so I am going to wax on. I had a conversation with my father this morning about the modules he created for Boeing, Lockheed, Northrorp, Mc Donell Douglas, General Dynamics, Airbus and others between 1979-2000 he ended his career at Honeywell. I have been around computers and smelled the odour of solder since I was 8 and the monitor was an oscilliscope so I am not some simp. What you and some others don't see is that your unwavering dedication to Nvidia and their practices is exactly why they can sell you a $2500 card today that the narrative will make irrelevant when the 5090 gets released with no regard. None of this matters anyway as the truth that would break the narrative is that VRR, Freesync or Gsync and Anti Lag are the most important innovations in the Gaming space. So you can wax on about RT and I can respond with raw 4K. I don't mean those 4K panels on TVs but the modern VA like my FV43U that is more expensive today than when it was released. The secret is the reason why you don't see many 7900XT on Ebay (for decent prices) is because owners don't want to sell them. That is also one of the unspoken truths about AMD universal drivers That as long as you are part of it you will get the innovations for your GPU.

In further truth Nvidia is the Walmart of the PC industry and follow 1980s American business practices that put profit before anything else period. The only reason ATI survived Nvidia eating the entire space was that they were Canadian but if you saw their offices before AMD bought them vs Nvidia's operations you would understand how dominant Nvidia had become. Now we have people like you that advocate for Nvidia even though a 7900XTX is 30% of the cost of a 4090 in some markets for about 20% less performance and even though TPU reports on China 4090 fire sales make Nvidia seem like some good guy in the space in terms of market share. I bet people that some people who bought 3080 10GB cards are not running many modern Games at 4K. Then you have those with 6800XTs that can dabble at 4K. Please don't mention DLSS as FSR (even though tell you it's blurry) is objectively better because it is not separated by GPU class and an Open spec. That is why it took months for us to get thoset APUs and they command a certain street price as well.
 
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... I bet people that some people who bought 3080 10GB cards are not running many modern Games at 4K. Then you have those with 6800XTs that can dabble at 4K. Please don't mention DLSS as FSR (even though tell you it's blurry) is objectively better because it is not separated by GPU class and an Open spec. That is why it took months for us to get thoset APUs and they command a certain street price as well.

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Dro trolling = drolling (on and on and.. :)

I'm not trolling, but I must admit that one definitely caught me off guard :laugh:

Feller will write quite the text wall in defense of their favorite company (ironically saying I have some sort of unwavering dedication to Nvidia :kookoo:) and extensively disregard the one they supposedly dislike, but... uses their products anyway :D
 
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All fan boy arguments aside, the worst investment you could make in terms of parts would be a 14th gen/700 series platform if your main goal is gaming.

The only reason to own an intel platform at this point is to tinker with higher frequency DDR5.

7800X3D all the way, and the platform will remain relevant for some additional time.
 
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All fan boy arguments aside, the worst investment you could make in terms of parts would be a 14th gen/700 series platform if your main goal is gaming.

The only reason to own an intel platform at this point is to tinker with higher frequency DDR5.

7800X3D all the way, and the platform will remain relevant for some additional time.

Raptor Lake is a very competent platform (and quite efficient if configured that way), it games well, the big problem is that the platform is now dead-end and any further upgrades will require a motherboard, it is for that reason alone that the Ryzen is a "smarter" buy. If OP does not plan on upgrading the processor any time soon, then the platform choice becomes rather irrelevant IMHO.
 

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Raptor Lake is a very competent platform (and quite efficient if configured that way), it games well, the big problem is that the platform is now dead-end and any further upgrades will require a motherboard, it is for that reason alone that the Ryzen is a "smarter" buy. If OP does not plan on upgrading the processor any time soon, then the platform choice becomes rather irrelevant IMHO.

Again, context, for gaming 14 series/700 platform is literally the worst investment you can make. Beat around the bush all day, cherry pick, whatever you’d like, it doesn’t change the reality.
 
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I'm not trolling, but I must admit that one definitely caught me off guard :laugh:

Feller will write quite the text wall in defense of their favorite company (ironically saying I have some sort of unwavering dedication to Nvidia :kookoo:) and extensively disregard the one they supposedly dislike, but... uses their products anyway :D
There is nothing wrong with the 3060 laptop for a 17" 1080P screen. What are you saying. You are the one that constantly bags on AMD. Did you not say you tried to use a Frontier card with Vega drivers and as a result don't like AMD?

Raptor Lake is a very competent platform (and quite efficient if configured that way), it games well, the big problem is that the platform is now dead-end and any further upgrades will require a motherboard, it is for that reason alone that the Ryzen is a "smarter" buy. If OP does not plan on upgrading the processor any time soon, then the platform choice becomes rather irrelevant IMHO.
This makes sense if it was 2012 and we knew we were not getting any more cores or IPC improvements from Intel or AMD. Does not matter though as Z890 is already a thing. I would hate for the OP to feel cheated with no flexibility from the start. AM4 was only supposed to be supported for 4 generations but it is 2024 and we are still getting new AM4 CPUs. There is no fan boy in that statement.
 
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Raptor Lake is a very competent platform (and quite efficient if configured that way), it games well, the big problem is that the platform is now dead-end and any further upgrades will require a motherboard, it is for that reason alone that the Ryzen is a "smarter" buy. If OP does not plan on upgrading the processor any time soon, then the platform choice becomes rather irrelevant IMHO.

You do really have to split hairs between say a 14700k and 7800X3D based system the 14700k will generally be faster maybe even by a good amount in general application performance but the X3D will generally be faster in games in day to day stuff it'll be a wash with possible storage and ram choice making more of an impact. I do personally like X670Es better connectivity for my wants over Z790s higher memory frequency capabilities but user to user that could be different. The reason I'd go 7800X3D is becuase a 9900X3D or even somthing later will be an option as a drop in upgrade which in 3-4 years could be nice and possibly cheap the OP has survived on a 7700K anything modern is going to be massively faster at everything. If this was let's say alderlake vs Ryzen 5000 my thoughts would be different and I'd rather build a Z690 system instead of an AM4 one assuming it was a brand new build either way.

At the end of the day both are good choices not sure why people need to get so emotional over them it's just silicon from companies that just want your money no need to defend or bash either as both are so close it's very small differences that might lead someone one way of the other for a gaming build.

I wish gpus were this competitive where you could just blindly buy one or the other.....
 
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Thank you everybody for all the effort and advice in this discussion.

I know this might not be a good time to get a new computer, but I honestly do not want to wait, new things are always around the corner.
Usually there is always something better (or not) coming next sooner or later.

I'm not planning to change or upgrading anything in the next 2-3 years.

Pretty sure that whatever I pick now will be more than enough for 60fps at 1440p, but if in 3 years I have to get another mb+cpu combo is fine by that time won't be a problem at all.

Also, debating about the 7800x3d and the 14700k, the price of both isn't that different here.

I've been reading reviews of both and I will most likely pick intel considering all that I've read, seen on videos and what was discussed here.

I will post the final build later once I make the final adjustments.

Thanks again
 
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Pretty sure that whatever I pick now will be more than enough for 60fps at 1440p, but if in 3 years I have to get another mb+cpu combo is fine by that time won't be a problem at all.

60fps? Is your display capped at 60hz?

At 60hz, a 14700K or 7800X3D for gaming is like putting a jet engine in a car on a 30mph road to be further hampered with a traffic jam. Ok maybe not that bad but thats a lot of processing juice left on the table. If your GPU permits, variably these CPUs can push well beyond 144fps.
 
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60fps? Is your display capped at 60hz?

At 60hz, a 14700K or 7800X3D for gaming is like putting a jet engine in a car on a 30mph road to be further hampered with a traffic jam. Ok maybe not that bad but thats a lot of processing juice left on the table. If your GPU permits, variably these CPUs can push well beyond 144fps.

UE5 and I would imagine any open world game that really pushes anything especially if you throw RT on top can be pretty cpu intensive both cpus are about what I'd want at a min for the next 3-5 years if doing a system.
 
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Thank you everybody for all the effort and advice in this discussion.

I know this might not be a good time to get a new computer, but I honestly do not want to wait, new things are always around the corner.
Usually there is always something better (or not) coming next sooner or later.

I'm not planning to change or upgrading anything in the next 2-3 years.

Pretty sure that whatever I pick now will be more than enough for 60fps at 1440p, but if in 3 years I have to get another mb+cpu combo is fine by that time won't be a problem at all.

Also, debating about the 7800x3d and the 14700k, the price of both isn't that different here.

I've been reading reviews of both and I will most likely pick intel considering all that I've read, seen on videos and what was discussed here.

I will post the final build later once I make the final adjustments.

Thanks again
One last build for you to have a look at. The i7 gives you a bit more longevity.

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UE5 and I would imagine any open world game that really pushes anything especially if you throw RT on top can be pretty cpu intensive both cpus are about what I'd want at a min for the next 3-5 years if doing a system.

For the few CPU-munching large map multiplayer titles i play, even my older 7700K and 9700K easily skips beyond 60fps. I don't bother with perf taxing RT though so i guess there is that possibility and no doubt can't speak for all games since my games library is usually small.

Curious though, absent of RT are there any particular titles which are showing signs of extreme CPU usage at 1440p to manage 60fps with the said processors? Perhaps some oddballs or poorly optimised/ported games?

(i fear a MOD "get your own room" spanking is looming on the horizon as the thread derailment grows further :oops: although i believe its relevant)
 

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Thank you everybody for all the effort and advice in this discussion.

I know this might not be a good time to get a new computer, but I honestly do not want to wait, new things are always around the corner.
Usually there is always something better (or not) coming next sooner or later.

True, but it always should be considered from the perspective of money you plan to spend - usually more expensive, higher end parts are simply closer and the more you spend, the bigger potential buyers remorse. Looking at your budget aiming mid range, it's likely that you would need to wait even up to year for next gen (Nvidia) midrange cards. If you don't want to wait, just wait only for Computex when AMD is likely to somehow present new CPUs. Waiting for new Intels is longer and likely to end with usual early adoption problems, so it's best to skip first gen of new platform, adding another year of waiting.

I'm not planning to change or upgrading anything in the next 2-3 years.

Pretty sure that whatever I pick now will be more than enough for 60fps at 1440p, but if in 3 years I have to get another mb+cpu combo is fine by that time won't be a problem at all.

Also, debating about the 7800x3d and the 14700k, the price of both isn't that different here.

I've been reading reviews of both and I will most likely pick intel considering all that I've read, seen on videos and what was discussed here.

I will post the final build later once I make the final adjustments.

Thanks again

I just hope you won't suggest with opinions being nothing more than "Intel dead platform, AMD upgrade path and 7800X3D fastest". They come from people of non-nuanced way of thinking, so not including your case like expectations and likely not knowing much, but just shouting some common knowledge, here also being exactly what AMD would like them to shout. The kind of people not thinking for themselves, so giving opinions in fact not being opinions.
 
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I just hope you won't suggest with opinions being nothing more than "Intel dead platform, AMD upgrade path and 7800X3D fastest". They come from people of non-nuanced way of thinking, so not including your case like expectations and likely not knowing much, but just shouting some common knowledge, here also being exactly what AMD would like them to shout. The kind of people not thinking for themselves, so giving opinions in fact not being opinions.
The problem with this ""Intel dead platform, AMD upgrade path and 7800X3D fastest" is that they are indeed all facts.
 
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I meant 60fps+ at least.

I read all the comments carefully and seen some videos and reviews as well.

Before I posted I already had something on my mind about going Intel, I was hoping to see something that could have changed the way I was thinking.

And it didn't happen.

I don't think I will regret my decision.

Even if AMD releases something way better, soon, that is not going to turn the 14700k into a bad CPU and not going to change how it behaves.

The only thing that is at stake here is the money im spending, I could be "wasting" money.

Another thing in consideration, when new cpus releases (at least here in my country) the prices are always crazy and they are priced for much more than they were announced for.

Thank you all for the advice.
 
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I meant 60fps+ at least.

I read all the comments carefully and seen some videos and reviews as well.

Before I posted I already had something on my mind about going Intel, I was hoping to see something that could have changed the way I was thinking.

And it didn't happen.

I don't think I will regret my decision.

Even if AMD releases something way better, soon, that is not going to turn the 14700k into a bad CPU and not going to change how it behaves.

The only thing that is at stake here is the money im spending, I could be "wasting" money.

Another thing in consideration, when new cpus releases (at least here in my country) the prices are always crazy and they are priced for much more than they were announced for.

Thank you all for the advice.

While the cpu is important these days the gpu is still way more of a factor in a gaming build you probably could have thrown darts at the top 10 ish gaming cpus and likely been fine for the next 3+ years the more important thing is going with a gpu with at least 16GB of vram and you already have that covered.
 
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The problem with this ""Intel dead platform, AMD upgrade path and 7800X3D fastest" is that they are indeed all facts.

They totally are, but not so clever people treat them as universal point against going Intel and AM5 being only sensible option. When in fact it all depends, as damn usually... In my first post here I gave an example of person who is likely to the point of being almost sure finding i7 better choice. Now I can give even my own, similar example. I'm a buyer for higher end CPU, at least i7. I don't really care high framerate, but value consistent frametime. CPUs mainly need replacement when they start bottleneck your card below value you find satisfying or when they start lacking multicore performance making frametime going shit. That's why higher end CPUs are likely to last me long. And that's why I don't even want upgrade path, because I doubt anybody will support platform for five years or more. Then upgrade path will only lower resell value of my components by market getting flooded with universal or more attractive alternatives. That's why "my facts" are short on multicore 7800X3D shit, upgrade path shit and dead Intel platform awesome ;)

While the cpu is important these days the gpu is still way more of a factor in a gaming build you probably could how thrown darts at the top 10 ish gaming cpus and likely been fine for the next 3+ years the more important thing is going with a gpu with at least 16GB of vram and you already have that covered.

Yeah, VRAM is one of the things obsoleting cards, so it's never too much. Nowadays kinda bottom of the barrel minimum to play majority of most demanding games - 30fps/1920x1080/lowest details - something like ten years old GTX 980 would deliver. But 4GB starts being a problem to just run games. I talk here extreme example, with lowest detail and old card, but in general consuming VRAM textures are last option you want to turn down. Or ray tracing. Or frame generation (if somebody likes).
 
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@DiogoCDS19 I haven't looked much into it but there is a lot of drama about motherboards and power limits going on right now make sure you get a really good board or you may end up with much lower performance than what you see in reviews which almost all of them were run with power limits disabled which it turns out a good number of either motherboards or cpus cannot actually do so they are limiting chips to 125w on some boards which is like half of what they were reviewed at.
 
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I meant 60fps+ at least.

Ah Gotcha! You have nothing to worry about both options easily shift north of 60.

I don't think I will regret my decision.

Don't fret. These processors are the Bees Knees - top dog extreme performers for gaming. You simply can't go wrong.. for a mix of CPU-bound and/or GPU intensive games (i play) even inferior previous generation processors are giving GPUs a run for the money. At this level you should be more concerned about whether the GPU can keep up at 1440p (at your preferred quality setting, which i'm assuming is HIGH). Games are usually designed ensuring both the CPU and GPU is utilised at a balance. Throw in a higher resolution display, the balance shifts. Some newer titles have game developers pushing boundaries in the graphics space for more realistic/immersive visual eye candy and in various instances we see the GPU maxing out with the CPU tagging behind. To simplify, current Gen processors are already too fast... we're either lacking more on the GPU side or higher end GPUs are too overpriced for consideration. This is a FRET freezone for the choice of CPU so buy with confidence.
 
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