Building Home Network Suggestions ?

[TheLostSwede]

10Gbps is no concern for me. My isp is only 1Gb and my in home server transfer rate doesn't have to be more than 5Gb

Future concern? It doesn't make sense to do it all over again in a few years.

 

[Durvelle27]

Future concern? It doesn't make sense to do it all over again in a few years.

It will be years before anything will hit that point. I highly doubt 10Gbp will be accessible in residential in the next 10 years. Plus CAT6 is good for 10G upto 55 Meters. I don't think none of the runs will be over 100 feet.

 

[TheLostSwede]

It will be years before anything will hit that point. I highly doubt 10Gbp will be accessible in residential in the next 10 years. Plus CAT6 is good for 10G upto 55 Meters. I don't think none of the runs will be over 100 feet.

Eh? I'm using it right now and have for several years.
You can get 10Gbps cards for well under $100.
In fact, 5Gbps isn't worth touching.
You want affordable, 2.5Gbps is the way to go.
The main reason for this isn't even the cost for the add-in cards, but the switch cost.
2.5Gbps switches are already down to ~$200 for an eight port switch.
There are no 5Gbps and below switches that I'm aware of, so you'd still have to go 10Gbps/multigig.

 

[Durvelle27]

Eh? I'm using it right now and have for several years.
You can get 10Gbps cards for well under $100.
In fact, 5Gbps isn't worth touching.
You want affordable, 2.5Gbps is the way to go.
The main reason for this isn't even the cost for the add-in cards, but the switch cost.
2.5Gbps switches are already down to ~$200 for an eight port switch.
There are no 5Gbps and below switches that I'm aware of, so you'd still have to go 10Gbps/multigig.

I guess my point is outside of server use you won't be using 10Gbp

Internet speed will still be based on ISP service

 

[TheLostSwede]

I guess my point is outside of server use you won't be using 10Gbp

Internet speed will still be based on ISP service

Sure, but what does internet speed have to to with your internal network speed?
I only have a 200Mbps internet connection, but I have a 10Gbps connection between this PC and my NAS, as it makes everything go faster between the two.

 

[ThaiTaffy]

Sure, but what does internet speed have to to with your internal network speed?
I only have a 200Mbps internet connection, but I have a 10Gbps connection between this PC and my NAS, as it makes everything go faster between the two.

I held off posting on this thread because my networking knowledge isn't the greatest but what Swede had said above is the main point if your hoping to set up a home network to share files between a LAN your best going as fast as budget will allow this not only allows future proofing but if you have say 4 devices all trying to connect externally to the internet your limited to the bandwidth of one port do you really want to bottleneck your devices when who is to say in the next few years your ISP decides to quadruple your current DL/UL speeds

 

[Durvelle27]

Sure, but what does internet speed have to to with your internal network speed?
I only have a 200Mbps internet connection, but I have a 10Gbps connection between this PC and my NAS, as it makes everything go faster between the two.

It works both ways you build the network for both internal and external speeds. My internet connection is 1000Mbps. I don't have a NAS, but I do have a server. It's mostly for media editing and transcoding.

 

[Durvelle27]

Have to buy some more wall plates

 

[Durvelle27]

Welp I got lucky. Got some good finds today. Found a 4 Post Server Rack for $50 and 2x 1320W UPS for $40

 

[Durvelle27]

Welp getting everything installed into the rack.
Funny thing the switch I bought doesn’t actually fit so I just screwed in one side and the rest is being held up by the UPS under it. Which by the way weighs a freaking ton

 

[thesmokingman]

Takes me back to the early years when I got my cisco, ms, novel certs. I think everyone goes thru that phase where you want stuff a server rack in your closet and shit.

 

[Durvelle27]

Takes me back to the early years when I got my cisco, ms, novel certs. I think everyone goes thru that phase where you want stuff a server rack in your closet and shit.

Ehhh wouldn’t call it a phase more so I actually need a strong dedicated network at home

 

[ThaiTaffy]

This is costing me with every post @Durvelle27 although slightly more modest I'm in the process of deciding on a firewall I'm looking at pfsense but finding a cheap alternative available in Asia for the hardware is slightly difficult my options seem to be either a clone or some sort of biostar board. I'm trying to keep tdp to a minimum also bit some of the old server blades here seem very enticing.

 

[Durvelle27]

This is costing me with every post @Durvelle27 although slightly more modest I'm in the process of deciding on a firewall I'm looking at pfsense but finding a cheap alternative available in Asia for the hardware is slightly difficult my options seem to be either a clone or some sort of biostar board. I'm trying to keep tdp to a minimum also bit some of the old server blades here seem very enticing.

To run pfsense you don’t need epic hardware. I’m only using a A10 APU, 8GB RAM, and a 256GB SSD. Uses under 100W

 

[ThaiTaffy]

Yep I been looking at an A10

 

[Durvelle27]

Yep I been looking at an A10
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That would actually work great but you would need a NIC as the integrated wouldn't work

 

[ThaiTaffy]

Yep I know from what I read I need a intel one, only thing that's confusing me is the speeds when I look at the Netgate options what controls the massive difference in speed? Processor/ram? As far as a nic I'm looking at sfp ones so I can then wire my fibre in without the need for a media converter.

 

[Durvelle27]

Yep I know from what I read I need a intel one, only thing that's confusing me is the speeds when I look at the Netgate options what controls the massive difference in speed? Processor/ram? As far as a nic I'm looking at sfp ones so I can then wire my fibre in without the need for a media converter.

It doesn't have to be intel. Broadcom NICs work as well. Intel is just the preferred choice. Speed shouldn't be an issue as long as the NIC can keep up.

MY ISP is 1.2GBps and in home is 10GBps and I have no issues achieving my speeds.

 

[ThaiTaffy]

Sorry getting my network os's mixed up it's truenas that requires intel I think

 

[Durvelle27]

Sorry getting my network os's mixed up it's truenas that requires intel I think

Ahhhh ok. I have no experience with that as I run Opensense, FreeNas, and Windows Server

 

[ThaiTaffy]

If broadcom works with pfsense this is a good option it seems and extremely cheap at less than $30

 

[Durvelle27]

If broadcom works with pfsense this is a good option it seems and extremely cheap at less than $30

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I’m not sure. I can’t find anything on compatibility

 

[ThaiTaffy]

I might have just scrapped the idea of custom building a pfsense box scrolling through online I've found a supplier of dell poweredge r210 ii servers for less than the price of the biostar board. No need to buy a nic or anything else and the power consumption isn't too bad either a quick search online confirms it can be used so now it's time to look at where to put it and do I buy a rack or make one.

 

[Durvelle27]

I might have just scrapped the idea of custom building a pfsense box scrolling through online I've found a supplier of dell poweredge r210 ii servers for less than the price of the biostar board. No need to buy a nic or anything else and the power consumption isn't too bad either a quick search online confirms it can be used so now it's time to look at where to put it and do I buy a rack or make one.

Not a bad idea. I have a server with dual nics but I chose to use it only as a server and not routing/firewall

 

[ThaiTaffy]

I'm an idiot when it comes to networking so I don't really understand why I would need a server.

My plan is to just have of sense running off this dell blade mainly for my wife's sake (she earns the money and uses an online platform) then connect to a switch, which will connect my pc, the Nas, a Poe switch for cameras and a wireless access point.

The details I'll work out as I go along my only fear is the instability of the power grid here so some form of smart ups which will allow me to shutdown and startup everything with a power outage is what I really need to research and understand.