Constant "EDP Other" under RING in ThrottleStop

[unclewebb]

@iamhavingastroke - Your CPU spends a lot of time over 90°C but for the most part, it continues to run at a consistent speed. There were three times in the log file when there was some brief BD PROCHOT throttling.

   DATE       TIME    MULTI   C0%   CKMOD  BAT_mW  TEMP   NVIDIA GPU     VID   POWER
2021-06-16  18:09:35  31.00   69.9  100.0       0   98    1151    91   0.9664   28.6
2021-06-16  18:09:36  31.00   67.2  100.0       0   97    1151    90   0.9716   28.6
2021-06-16  18:09:37  31.00   64.2  100.0       0   98    1151    90   0.9562   28.1
2021-06-16  18:09:38   9.22   92.1  100.0       0   79    1151    83   0.5709    7.1   BDPRO
2021-06-16  18:09:39   8.00   92.3  100.0       0   79    1151    83   0.5673    5.6   BDPRO
2021-06-16  18:09:40   8.00   89.1  100.0       0   78    1151    81   0.5736    5.6   BDPRO
2021-06-16  18:09:41   8.00   91.1  100.0       0   78    1151    81   0.5714    5.5   BDPRO
2021-06-16  18:09:42   8.00   92.0  100.0       0   77    1151    81   0.5718    5.5   BDPRO
2021-06-16  18:09:43  29.33   61.4  100.0       0   93    1151    81   0.9731   25.4
2021-06-16  18:09:44  31.00   58.0  100.0       0   95    1151    89   0.9808   26.9
2021-06-16  18:09:45  31.00   57.3  100.0       0   95    1151    89   0.9763   26.8

BD PROCHOT throttling is basically an external sensor within your computer that sends a signal to your CPU to slow it down. You can use ThrottleStop to disable these BD PROCHOT messages getting to your CPU but at the temperature your CPU and GPU are running at, disabling this external throttling signal is probably not a good idea.

These BD PROCHOT throttling episodes only last about 5 seconds. The CPU drops in speed from 3100 MHz down to 800 MHz so you will definitely notice some big FPS drops when this happens. Are you getting occasional FPS drops like this or are you getting constant stuttering while gaming? Considering how hot your laptop is running, your CPU and GPU MHz look really consistent.

You can try doing some logging with GPU-Z. It might show an issue with your GPU that ThrottleStop is not showing.

 

[iamhavingastroke]

http://HOW MANY EUROS COST YOUR PC?

It is a gaming laptop an HP Omen 2016 if you want a better pc for a lower price follow this yt guide

@iamhavingastroke - Your CPU spends a lot of time over 90°C but for the most part, it continues to run at a consistent speed. There were three times in the log file when there was some brief BD PROCHOT throttling.

   DATE       TIME    MULTI   C0%   CKMOD  BAT_mW  TEMP   NVIDIA GPU     VID   POWER
2021-06-16  18:09:35  31.00   69.9  100.0       0   98    1151    91   0.9664   28.6
2021-06-16  18:09:36  31.00   67.2  100.0       0   97    1151    90   0.9716   28.6
2021-06-16  18:09:37  31.00   64.2  100.0       0   98    1151    90   0.9562   28.1
2021-06-16  18:09:38   9.22   92.1  100.0       0   79    1151    83   0.5709    7.1   BDPRO
2021-06-16  18:09:39   8.00   92.3  100.0       0   79    1151    83   0.5673    5.6   BDPRO
2021-06-16  18:09:40   8.00   89.1  100.0       0   78    1151    81   0.5736    5.6   BDPRO
2021-06-16  18:09:41   8.00   91.1  100.0       0   78    1151    81   0.5714    5.5   BDPRO
2021-06-16  18:09:42   8.00   92.0  100.0       0   77    1151    81   0.5718    5.5   BDPRO
2021-06-16  18:09:43  29.33   61.4  100.0       0   93    1151    81   0.9731   25.4
2021-06-16  18:09:44  31.00   58.0  100.0       0   95    1151    89   0.9808   26.9
2021-06-16  18:09:45  31.00   57.3  100.0       0   95    1151    89   0.9763   26.8

BD PROCHOT throttling is basically an external sensor within your computer that sends a signal to your CPU to slow it down. You can use ThrottleStop to disable these BD PROCHOT messages getting to your CPU but at the temperature your CPU and GPU are running at, disabling this external throttling signal is probably not a good idea.

These BD PROCHOT throttling episodes only last about 5 seconds. The CPU drops in speed from 3100 MHz down to 800 MHz so you will definitely notice some big FPS drops when this happens. Are you getting occasional FPS drops like this or are you getting constant stuttering while gaming? Considering how hot your laptop is running, your CPU and GPU MHz look really consistent.

You can try doing some logging with GPU-Z. It might show an issue with your GPU that ThrottleStop is not showing.

The stuttering is consistent and usually happens for 3-5 seconds at a time and this does annoy me!
I will send a gpu z log
Thank you

@iamhavingastroke - Your CPU spends a lot of time over 90°C but for the most part, it continues to run at a consistent speed. There were three times in the log file when there was some brief BD PROCHOT throttling.

   DATE       TIME    MULTI   C0%   CKMOD  BAT_mW  TEMP   NVIDIA GPU     VID   POWER
2021-06-16  18:09:35  31.00   69.9  100.0       0   98    1151    91   0.9664   28.6
2021-06-16  18:09:36  31.00   67.2  100.0       0   97    1151    90   0.9716   28.6
2021-06-16  18:09:37  31.00   64.2  100.0       0   98    1151    90   0.9562   28.1
2021-06-16  18:09:38   9.22   92.1  100.0       0   79    1151    83   0.5709    7.1   BDPRO
2021-06-16  18:09:39   8.00   92.3  100.0       0   79    1151    83   0.5673    5.6   BDPRO
2021-06-16  18:09:40   8.00   89.1  100.0       0   78    1151    81   0.5736    5.6   BDPRO
2021-06-16  18:09:41   8.00   91.1  100.0       0   78    1151    81   0.5714    5.5   BDPRO
2021-06-16  18:09:42   8.00   92.0  100.0       0   77    1151    81   0.5718    5.5   BDPRO
2021-06-16  18:09:43  29.33   61.4  100.0       0   93    1151    81   0.9731   25.4
2021-06-16  18:09:44  31.00   58.0  100.0       0   95    1151    89   0.9808   26.9
2021-06-16  18:09:45  31.00   57.3  100.0       0   95    1151    89   0.9763   26.8

BD PROCHOT throttling is basically an external sensor within your computer that sends a signal to your CPU to slow it down. You can use ThrottleStop to disable these BD PROCHOT messages getting to your CPU but at the temperature your CPU and GPU are running at, disabling this external throttling signal is probably not a good idea.

These BD PROCHOT throttling episodes only last about 5 seconds. The CPU drops in speed from 3100 MHz down to 800 MHz so you will definitely notice some big FPS drops when this happens. Are you getting occasional FPS drops like this or are you getting constant stuttering while gaming? Considering how hot your laptop is running, your CPU and GPU MHz look really consistent.

You can try doing some logging with GPU-Z. It might show an issue with your GPU that ThrottleStop is not showing.

I was looking to upgrade to a new pc as I had saved up for over a year but the pandemic left me gpu less

http://HOW MANY EUROS COST YOUR PC?

Here take a look at this one too

 

[aa1996s]

It is a gaming laptop an HP Omen 2016 if you want a better pc for a lower price follow this yt guide

The stuttering is consistent and usually happens for 3-5 seconds at a time and this does annoy me!
I will send a gpu z log
Thank you


I was looking to upgrade to a new pc as I had saved up for over a year but the pandemic left me gpu less


Here take a look at this one too

i live in spain can i buy it?

 

[iamhavingastroke]

i live in spain can i buy it?

yes but I recommend following the guide on the pc as it provides more fps on games than this overpriced laptop

 

[aa1996s]

yes but I recommend following the guide on the pc as it provides more fps on games than this overpriced laptop

CORRECTO, parece ser que sí ,pero a veces desconfío pero quisiera probar algo así necesito mínimo 200 FPS !! @.@ ,
I can sell this lenovo y530 laptop to a friend for 300 euros, tell me what do you recommend?

 

[iamhavingastroke]

CORRECTO, parece ser que sí ,pero a veces desconfío pero quisiera probar algo así necesito mínimo 200 FPS !! @.@ ,
I can sell this lenovo y530 laptop to a friend for 300 euros, tell me what do you recommend?

I would recommend you dont the lenovo y530 is better than my laptop

@iamhavingastroke - Your CPU spends a lot of time over 90°C but for the most part, it continues to run at a consistent speed. There were three times in the log file when there was some brief BD PROCHOT throttling.

   DATE       TIME    MULTI   C0%   CKMOD  BAT_mW  TEMP   NVIDIA GPU     VID   POWER
2021-06-16  18:09:35  31.00   69.9  100.0       0   98    1151    91   0.9664   28.6
2021-06-16  18:09:36  31.00   67.2  100.0       0   97    1151    90   0.9716   28.6
2021-06-16  18:09:37  31.00   64.2  100.0       0   98    1151    90   0.9562   28.1
2021-06-16  18:09:38   9.22   92.1  100.0       0   79    1151    83   0.5709    7.1   BDPRO
2021-06-16  18:09:39   8.00   92.3  100.0       0   79    1151    83   0.5673    5.6   BDPRO
2021-06-16  18:09:40   8.00   89.1  100.0       0   78    1151    81   0.5736    5.6   BDPRO
2021-06-16  18:09:41   8.00   91.1  100.0       0   78    1151    81   0.5714    5.5   BDPRO
2021-06-16  18:09:42   8.00   92.0  100.0       0   77    1151    81   0.5718    5.5   BDPRO
2021-06-16  18:09:43  29.33   61.4  100.0       0   93    1151    81   0.9731   25.4
2021-06-16  18:09:44  31.00   58.0  100.0       0   95    1151    89   0.9808   26.9
2021-06-16  18:09:45  31.00   57.3  100.0       0   95    1151    89   0.9763   26.8

BD PROCHOT throttling is basically an external sensor within your computer that sends a signal to your CPU to slow it down. You can use ThrottleStop to disable these BD PROCHOT messages getting to your CPU but at the temperature your CPU and GPU are running at, disabling this external throttling signal is probably not a good idea.

These BD PROCHOT throttling episodes only last about 5 seconds. The CPU drops in speed from 3100 MHz down to 800 MHz so you will definitely notice some big FPS drops when this happens. Are you getting occasional FPS drops like this or are you getting constant stuttering while gaming? Considering how hot your laptop is running, your CPU and GPU MHz look really consistent.

You can try doing some logging with GPU-Z. It might show an issue with your GPU that ThrottleStop is not showing.

Hi Unclewebb, I have the gpu z file. Let me know if it helps. Thank you!

 

[unclewebb]

The GPU-Z log file only covers a few seconds and there is hardly any load on the GPU. Try running a longer log file while gaming for 10 or 15 minutes, not 5 seconds.

 

[iamhavingastroke]

The GPU-Z log file only covers a few seconds and there is hardly any load on the GPU. Try running a longer log file while gaming for 10 or 15 minutes, not 5 seconds.

let me know if this helps. Also my pc has been overheating for the past day and I found disabling turbo fixes this. What should I do about that?

The GPU-Z log file only covers a few seconds and there is hardly any load on the GPU. Try running a longer log file while gaming for 10 or 15 minutes, not 5 seconds.

 

[unclewebb]

my pc has been overheating for the past day

Your GPU-Z log file shows the Hot Spot on the GPU getting up to 101°C. It is not good for an Intel CPU to be constantly running at these sort of temperatures and it is definitely not good for an Nvidia GPU. Hard to get consistent performance out of a laptop when the CPU and GPU are running so hot.

Unless you find a way to re-engineer the inadequate cooling system, there is not much you can do. Disabling Intel Turbo Boost is a band aid. It helps reduce overall temperatures but it significantly reduces CPU performance. Got to do what you got to do. I would be heading to eBay. Too many gaming laptops have similar issues.

 

[aa1996s]

I would recommend you dont the lenovo y530 is better than my laptop


Hi Unclewebb, I have the gpu z file. Let me know if it helps. Thank you!

my i7 8750h with undervolt is 97 º in this laptop ,
How do you want me to play quietly with this garbage?

I would recommend you dont the lenovo y530 is better than my laptop


Hi Unclewebb, I have the gpu z file. Let me know if it helps. Thank you!

How do you want me to play quietly with this garbage? my i7 8750h in this laptop is 97 º with undervolt sh1t

 

[iamhavingastroke]

Your GPU-Z log file shows the Hot Spot on the GPU getting up to 101°C. It is not good for an Intel CPU to be constantly running at these sort of temperatures and it is definitely not good for an Nvidia GPU. Hard to get consistent performance out of a laptop when the CPU and GPU are running so hot.
Do you have any other suggestions? Thank you

 

[Kyaw Zin]

Hi unclewebb! I have some issues with my MSI GE73 RGB 8RF. Let me explain to you. My laptop spec is as follow.
CPU i7 8750H, RAM 16GB DDR4, GPU Nvidia GTX1070 (Full Powered) 8GB DDR5
OS - Windows 11 Version 21H2 (OS Build 22000.194)
I undervolted laptop with parameters as attached photos. When I play several games with laptop, it always hits 97C and I also get FPS drops in games. Sometimes in game FPS dropped to 35FPS even with max fan speed 7500 rpm. Seems that it's throttling itself. Even in idle state, temps are around 50C~60C. Is it normal? Room temp is 21C. Can you point out what causes this issues? I haven't open laptop chassis to replace thermal paste since I bought it in 2019 Jan 23rd. Is it time to replace thermals paste? I believe that there will be a lot of dust in fan and radiator. Beside this issues, I would like to know that is there any parameter issues with throttlestop? I would be happy if I get some advises to improve thermal vs performance scenario. I also attach GPU enabled log file and I logged it while I playing Days Gone in 1080P High setting for around 15mins. Can you suggest any optimal setting? Thanks in advance.

 

[unclewebb]

@Kyaw Zin - High performance laptops are similar to high performance cars. They need regular maintenance. I am not sure if the thermal paste needs replacement but it is time to open up your laptop and blow out the dust. Heatsinks can not dissipate heat if the fins are full of dust and dirt. If blowing out your laptop does not reduce your CPU and GPU temperatures then you will also need to replace the thermal paste. Noctua NT-H2 is kind of pricey in most markets but it works well in laptops. Often times, just blowing the dust out can solve the problem.

Your log file shows some CPU throttling but the biggest problem is GPU throttling. The GPU is pegged at 90°C which is likely the GPU thermal throttling temperature. You can run GPU-Z to confirm this information. The GPU temperature is the main cause of big drops in GPU MHz which kills FPS.

If you are forced to run your CPU at 3400 MHz to avoid throttling, that is a good sign that you have been procrastinating too long. Time for a thorough cleaning. No point in me recommending any settings until you get the thermal problems fixed.

 

[Kyaw Zin]

Thanks for advise, bro. I will open laptop chassis to clean and blow dust first. I also ordered Thermalright TF8 thermal paste for just in case. I know that thermal pastes (in my case 13.8W/mK) have low thermal conductivity than liquid metal but this is the only one available near me. I will update after cleaning results soon. Thanks for thorough explanation!

 

[Doniblox]

hello i have a problem with an i7 8650u,

Under stress there is always the pl1 and edp other in red and the frequencies are lowered to 3.2ghz being that the processor holds up to 4.2ghz in 2 cores, I attach tcp configuration,

And another question, why does it never exceed 3.9 GHz? I remember that before I saw 2 cores at 4.2ghz but now it never reaches those frequencies

tinkpad t580, 16gb ram single chanel, no dedicated graphics card, ssd m.2

,

 

[TarpGuy_]

Hi, I'm having the same problem as a lot of others I think. Except it seems I'm one of the only ones on a Desktop computer. The EDP OTHER field is constantly blinking when I have just a browser and Steam open. I can not for the life of me find the box to enable limit reasons in the log file, but I have a log file right here. The only thing I have changed myself is the PP0 value, and the -125mV undervolt. The log is a lot of idling, and at 14:33, I booted up the Battlefield 2042 Beta. I don't really know what other info to provide, but I have had the pc for quite a while. The CPU was just released when I bought it.

 

[unclewebb]

I can not for the life of me find the box to enable limit reasons in the log file

On the newer versions of ThrottleStop, this happens automatically. No Limit Reasons info showing up in the log file is a good thing. That means no throttling problems.

EDP OTHER is hyper sensitive on some CPUs. Even after you press the Clear button, it is not unusual for EDP OTHER to immediately light up yellow again.

This is nothing to worry about. Ignore it. If it is constantly red under the CORE column then show me a screenshot of ThrottleStop with Limit Reasons open that shows this.

The only thing I have changed myself is the PP0 value

Was there any reason you did this? Did it solve a problem? Avoid changing things randomly. ThrottleStop has a lot of features but some of them do not apply to your CPU. I would set the PP0 Power Limit to 0, press Apply and then I would clear the PP0 Power Limit box. There is usually no reason to use this on your desktop CPU.

and the -125mV undervolt.

On a desktop computer, I would suggest setting the voltages in the BIOS if possible. If you are going to undervolt, for most CPUs, you have to undervolt both the core and the cache. These two voltages are linked. If you only adjust one of these then your undervolt request will usually be ignored. With some desktop boards, you might also have to enable SVID support in the BIOS before the ThrottleStop voltage adjusters are going to do anything.

Speed Shift Technology is not enabled. It might not be available in your BIOS. If you want to use this feature, you need to enable it in the ThrottleStop TPL window. Before you do that, tell me what you want your computer to do. Would you like it to run at full speed regardless of load or would you like it to slow down when it is lightly loaded? For a desktop computer that is plugged in, I prefer to run at full speed. You can enable the low power C states if you want to save power. Slowing the CPU down is really not that necessary but some people still like to do this when the CPU is lightly loaded.

If you are not going to use Speed Shift Technology then you need to check the Set Multiplier box and the SpeedStep box.

 

[TarpGuy_]

Was there any reason you did this? Did it solve a problem? Avoid changing things randomly. ThrottleStop has a lot of features but some of them do not apply to your CPU. I would set the PP0 Power Limit to 0, press Apply and then I would clear the PP0 Power Limit box. There is usually no reason to use this on your desktop CPU.

I did based on previous answers to this thread, where it was suggested that it might help with the problem I seemed to be having. It has been reset to 0 and unticked.

Speed Shift Technology is not enabled. It might not be available in your BIOS. If you want to use this feature, you need to enable it in the ThrottleStop TPL window. Before you do that, tell me what you want your computer to do. Would you like it to run at full speed regardless of load or would you like it to slow down when it is lightly loaded? For a desktop computer that is plugged in, I prefer to run at full speed. You can enable the low power C states if you want to save power. Slowing the CPU down is really not that necessary but some people still like to do this when the CPU is lightly loaded.

I want it to run at full speed.

Thank you for the quick answer!

 

[unclewebb]

I want it to run at full speed.

To enable Speed Shift Technology, check the Speed Shift option in the ThrottleStop TPL window. Press OK, go back out to the main screen and check the Speed Shift EPP box. Set the EPP value to 0 for maximum CPU speed. If you want your CPU to slow down when lightly loaded, set the EPP value to 80. The EPP value can easily be adjusted on the main screen. Not that intuitive but just click on the number to the right of EPP and change the value.

 

[herpderp_64]

hi. i have a question about my laptop. i have a dell g7 7588 with a i7 8750 h. i have already done 3 repastes and I have a cooling pad.i have tried everything by this point and i have been looking at all of the posts that said anything about this. my laptop used to thurmal throttle but after the undervolt it doesn't in games. the cpu doesn't but the gpu does. the cpu does get power limted for some reason even tho i have set it to not. i have tried every setting but no matter what i do it always power throttles to 40-44 wats after i run it for a bit. i am unsure if i am just missing something or if something is wrong. also i have gotten to a -350 mv on my cpu core but unstably but i am very stable on -260. thank you in advanced herp

 

[unclewebb]

i am very stable on -260

When the TS Bench reports 1024 Errors after 28 seconds, that means your computer is not stable. These errors are a warning that your CPU is coming up with different answers for the same calculation. Sometimes 2 + 2 = 4 and sometimes your computer will tell you that 2 + 2 = 5 or 105 or who knows. Game stable does not prove that your computer is stable. Over time, when you operate a computer on the edge like this, Windows or your files might slowly become corrupted. You might get some random BSOD when playing. Hopefully you will not be doing anything too important when this inevitably happens.

You have set your voltages too low. You can fix this problem or just carry on and ignore this warning. Your computer might be OK for months. For me personally, I need my computer to be as close to 100% stable as possible. I always increase the voltage until the TS Bench errors go away.

The Intel GPU barely consumes any power if you are using a Nvidia GPU while gaming. Consider setting the Intel GPU and iGPU Unslice voltages back to +0.0000. The risks are greater than the rewards when you undervolt the Intel GPU. Try setting the cache offset voltage to -130 mV or -125 mV like everyone else is using. That is the most important setting for stability.

The 8750H has a 45W TDP rating.

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Dell typically uses an embedded controller (EC) to enforce this limit. Some 8th Gen Dell laptops are locked to 45W and some randomly vary to far less than 45W. It looks like your Dell laptop has this hidden feature. It should not be PL1 power limit throttling, like it is in the screenshot, at only 38W. Sadly, there is no fix for this. When the EC sets a power limit lower than what you have set in ThrottleStop, the EC wins control of the CPU. This was a common issue in 8th Gen Dell laptops. You are lucky. I have seen some go as low as 10W and get stuck there for extended periods of time.

 

[herpderp_64]

so then 2 things. one i should up the voltage till I see that I have no more errors in the run and 2 that there is nothing I can do about the power throttling. also, I wanted to point out that it doesn't start at 38. I get like 10-15 seconds at the start of a test that it stays at 55-60 wats and it starts throttling with pl2 and then suddenly it switches from pl2 to pl1 and immediately drops from that 55-60 all the way to 38-41. also I really wanted to thank you for answering super quickly. i have been looking at your answers to posts for a few years and I have found them super useful. you were the original person who I learned how to undervolt from ages ago and well I found a way to bypass the block through the bios so I can get control again so I had to come back and find you again. so besides raising the voltage there is nothing I can do to fix the power limet bs. and if not are there any other changes you would advise me to make or to check to make sure my PC is fully tuned

 

[unclewebb]

Increasing the voltage is up to you. That is my recommendation. I hate random bugs and computers that are not stable.

Here is some user feedback from a guy that thought a few TS Bench errors was not important.

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besides raising the voltage there is nothing I can do to fix the power limit bs.

Unfortunately, raising the voltage increases power consumption so this makes the power limit throttling problem worse. It is a no win situation.

it starts throttling with pl2 and then suddenly it switches from pl2 to pl1

The purpose of these two power limits is so the CPU can run at a high power level for a short period of time and then it will switch to the lower power limit for an infinite amount of time after that. That is not a bad idea when cooling is limited. It all worked great until Dell started using the EC to hijack this control method. Now the power limits can be lowered excessively with no real legit reason. Some users have complained to Dell and their complaints were brushed aside. They were told that this is "by design" and everything is OK.

For approximately 10 years, Dell engineers dreamed up new ways to throttle their laptops. Dell started using the EC to enforce power limits on their 8th Gen laptops and for that problem, there is no easy fix. For Core 2 Duo laptops, all the way up to and including Dell's laptops with Intel 7th Gen CPUs, ThrottleStop could be used to fix these unnecessary throttling problems. With 8th Gen, I finally gave up.

 

[herpderp_64]

well thank you anyway. i have raised the voltage so it is actually 100% stable now. i have also raised it on the cache. i really wanted to tank you because you answered so quickly and well you really helped me out. for now I will stick the tpl to 55 or 60 and well hope for the best. at worst now my CPU runs at 3.4 instead of 3.9 but because of the underovlt it is at 80 c at 3.4 instead of always 100 and at 0.8 so it is still much better, just not perfect. have a great day my man and keep up the amazing help and work

 

[Giorgio8]

SO i have an issue on my laptop Acer Predator Helios 300. for some reason pl1 and edp other are always turn on yellow then red also POWER in the last screenshot anyone can help me with this ? maybe i need to change some settings in TS...