Cumulative Ryzen 5000 series TPU review discussion thread

[Pumper]

I don't get why RAM manufacturers don't list their memory rank in specs, like Kingston does, and yeah, Kingston has 2x16GB 3200 and higher kits in both dual and single rank, i.e.:

single rank: 2x16 3200 cl16 HX432C16FB4K2/32, 2x16 3600 cl18 HX436C18FB4K2/32
dual rank: 2x16 3200 cl16 HX432C16FB3K2/32 , 2x16 3466 cl16 HX434C16FB3AK2/32

Dual rank is more expensive (at least over here in Europe). Would be nice to know what other brands are offering, i.e. if the G Skill F4-3600C16D-32GVKC kit is dual rank or not.

 

[Provin915]

There are two 3600CL16 Trident RGBs. One is 16-16-16, one is 16-19-19. If it's the latter, I'd only get it if it's less than $150USD. Both are dual rank.

1 rank per channel (little worse actual performance, better OC at the top end):

• 2x8GB SR with 8Gb (B-die, CJR, Rev.E)
• 2x8GB SR with intentionally disabled Rev.B
• 2x16GB SR with 16Gb Rev.B

2 rank per channel (little better actual performance, lower achievable OC usually beyond 4000):

• 2x8GB DR with 4Gb (D-die, E-die)
• 4x4GB SR with 4Gb (D-die, E-die)
• 2x16GB DR with 8Gb (B-die, CJR, Rev.E)
• 4x8GB SR with 8Gb (B-die, CJR, Rev.E)
• 2x32GB DR with 16Gb Rev.B
• 4x16GB SR with 16Gb Rev.B

I'm guessing you probably have something in the former category right now, and either of the 32GB RGB kits is going to be in the latter.

THANKS for the explanation man. I will definitely keep this in my mind when I'm actually gonna buy my new parts. Cheers!

 

[TheLostSwede]

I don't get why RAM manufacturers don't list their memory rank in specs, like Kingston does, and yeah, Kingston has 2x16GB 3200 and higher kits in both dual and single rank, i.e.:

single rank: 2x16 3200 cl16 HX432C16FB4K2/32, 2x16 3600 cl18 HX436C18FB4K2/32
dual rank: 2x16 3200 cl16 HX432C16FB3K2/32 , 2x16 3466 cl16 HX434C16FB3AK2/32

Dual rank is more expensive (at least over here in Europe). Would be nice to know what other brands are offering, i.e. if the G Skill F4-3600C16D-32GVKC kit is dual rank or not.

Because then they can't change the IC supplier without telling us...
Yes, this is indeed very frustrating and I guess this is also why a lot of people are having problems getting the right kits when they buy more RAM for their system.

 

[TumbleGeorge]

AMD's memory controller isn't Intel's memory controller and it's being proved time and time again that the "traditional" Intel limitations simply do not apply to AMD.

Table is for AMD. Recommended from AMD! ASRock just presents it in a user-friendly form. All speeds above recommended are OC.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

So,

2x16 = Dual Rank ?
4x8 = Single Rank ?

But because they yield a total of 4 ranks (2 Ranks per channel?) they yield essentially the same performance, and the best performance for Ryzen 5000?

 

[8BitZ80]

Oh come on. Don't start that. Lynx is discussing on the video that is related to Ryzen 5000 series. When I created this thread I envisioned people to discuss TPU review discrepancy by comparing/contrasting with other third party review data. Not for people to shut down discussion based on thread name pedantics.

I've already had at least three posts deleted in the last few days for this reason. Some in this very thread because I discussed GN benchmarks.
It's highly discouraging when we just want to talk about one of the hottest CPU releases in a decade but the comments that don't directly relate to the thread titles are being culled.

 

[SL2]

I've already had at least three posts deleted in the last few days for this reason. Some in this very thread because I discussed GN benchmarks.
It's highly discouraging when we just want to talk about one of the hottest CPU releases in a decade but the comments that don't directly relate to the thread titles are being culled.

I agree, but I remember seeing someone posting a GN review here and said like "When it comes from GN, you know it's legit" and it got pulled. That's basically asking for it.
Otherwise I haven't seen that many removed links, maybe because they're.. removed..

 

[8BitZ80]

I agree, but I remember seeing someone posting a GN review here and said like "When it comes from GN, you know it's legit" and it got pulled. That's basically asking for it.
Otherwise I haven't seen that many removed links, maybe because they're.. removed..

Maybe. The crux of the issue is that each reviewer is a small fish in a large tech pond, and each have their own strengths. Usually LinusTechTips is best for overall product information, Techpowerup is best for written articles and the forum, GamersNexus is best for comprehensive details and TechYesCity is great for value and used market insight. Especially for an interesting product it's normal to watch a whole bunch of reviews and cross-examine. I could go into a rant but the fact is that it's normal and we're not a bunch of wife cheaters if we mention other reviews. All I'm saying.

 

[Zach_01]

So,

2x16 = Dual Rank ?
4x8 = Single Rank ?

But because they yield a total of 4 ranks (2 Ranks per channel?) they yield essentially the same performance, and the best performance for Ryzen 5000?

Yes both of those configurations are 2 ranks per channel and probably will perform the same. The difference between them is the ranks per stick. That may affect higher speed capability (?)
Or maybe is just a module compatibility issue with Ryzen and not really a rank configuration...

 

[8BitZ80]

Heavens these Zen 3 processors are powerful. One of the games I benchmarked was Feed The Beast Ultimate 1.4.7 which I've been playing for years. The low-down is that it's a poorly optimised modpack for Minecraft 1.4 (which is already a poorly optimised game) and it craves single-core performance and cache. After upgrading from the Ryzen 3 3100 to the Ryzen 5 5600X my average FPS is up 65% and minimum FPS has tripled. That unified L3 cache works tremendously well.

 

[Selaya]

Yes, all dual rank, not single rank. [ ... ]

Huh.
I was under the impression you(r post) said not a lot of dual-rank memory at some point.
Blame Freud, I guess.

 

[Sybaris_Caesar]

TL;DW Not unique to Zen 3. Same double-digit performance uplift on Intel CPUs as well.

 

[EarthDog]

TL;DW Not unique to Zen 3. Same double-digit performance uplift on Intel CPUs as well.

Not surprised...! Dual rank vs single, right?