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[80-watt Hamster]

This is true, I don't know why they're still so proud of the X5690. I guess when some post an action on eBay, they look at what others are selling them for. I'm not sure, but my guess is, the biggest percentage of the X5690 auctions never even sale their processors.

The top dog proc from any product family generally goes for an outsize amount of money relative to the rest. Even now, a Q9650 commands one-and-a-half to two times the price of a Q9550 on eBay, for a negligible performance advantage. Same story for 3770 and 3770K.

 

[Mr Bill]

The top dog proc from any product family generally goes for an outsize amount of money relative to the rest. Even now, a Q9650 commands one-and-a-half to two times the price of a Q9550 on eBay, for a negligible performance advantage. Same story for 3770 and 3770K.

I understand this, but with the bottom dropping out of some processors like the i3-12100F for $99.00 on Amazon, I don't understand how some justify spending $75.00 to $100.00 on a X5690, because that's about the average price on eBay. Yes, I realize you will need a new board and ram for the i3-12100F, but the processor price is about that same. I understand the nostalgia with the older builds, but when do one say, it's time to start a new build with something from the 21st century?

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[Susquehannock]

I understand this, but with the bottom dropping out of some processors like the i3-12100F for $99.00 on Amazon, I don't understand how some justify spending $75.00 to $100.00 on a X5690, because that's about the average price on eBay. Yes, I realize you will need a new board and ram for the i3-12100F, but the processor price is about that same. I understand the nostalgia with the older builds, but when do one say, it's time to start a new build with something from the 21st century?

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Prices can fluctuate quite a bit. Here is an X5690 at 37.95 shipped. Straight out of Baltimore. Think I paid around $50 for mine about 3 years ago. They were selling at $130 level in 2016 when the T3500s started coming my way.

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rDIMM prices have come back down too. Looking at Intel chipset compatibility info for the T5500, I was able to establish IBM #49Y1415 modules were on the list. (8gb, 2Rx4, 1.35v) Makes no difference in re-brand. Lately they pop up at under $10 used and $14 brand new on Ebay

 

[pashalis777]

Are you thinking of buying 6 of them?

Yes.

Depends on the game. I had an RTX 2080 in my T3500 with a W3680 and there were some games that ran full speed no issues and some the were being held back by the CPU, but not by much. An RTX 3060 would give you an excellent experience with that system!

Good to know that game performance won't be as dramatic as bottleneck websites imply.

Apparently a mechanic saw it quick today, said it won't fit a second CPU. He said it might if get socket or something. I'm tired and not sure I want a second processor after all. As I did not mention there won't be any gaming streaming or Heavy work, so I'm finalizing at just one x5687.

Edit: He also told me I'm gonna need a new freezer for the processor.

 

[Susquehannock]

Edit: He also told me I'm gonna need a new freezer for the processor.

Freezer as in heat sink I presume. He may be right. Which type do you have now? Aluminum or copper heatpipe? The solid aluminum fin heat sink (part #T021F) may have been adequate for the 80 watt E5620. The X5687 is 130w and would benefit from the upgrade heatpipe heatsink (part #U106F). Even better if you can attach a fan to it.

 

[lexluthermiester]

so I'm finalizing at just one x5687.

IF you're only going with 1 CPU, get a 6 core. X5680 is the best bang for buck currently.

Edit: He also told me I'm gonna need a new freezer for the processor.

Cooler you mean?

Does your system have one of these?


Or one of these?


If you have the first one, yes you need a better cooler, like the second.

 

[pashalis777]

This person has a workstation that sells it, but I am interested in their pc's components. He has a pair of Xeon x5687, which I am interested in. I asked for the price. He listed it (90€), but he also listed a pair of freezer + fan for them at 180€ each. I did not expect I would need such things, let alone for that price... Do I really need the freezers and fan? Isn't my T5500 with the E5620, currently equipped for that? Thank you.

I am interested in this person's workstation. HP Z800.

• 2x Xeon 5687 3.60 GHz 2x( 4cores, 8 threads) = 16 threads
• 6x4 Gb ddr3 ecc 1333 MHz triple channel HP
• Power Supply 1250W 80plus Silver
• SSD 240 wd
• BLUE RAY Optical Drive
• SOUNDBLASTER X-FI

He sells it at 650€. I am going to get it, (if it is still available) when I have the money ready, in two weeks. Then after a month, I am going to purchase a graphics card, hopefully prices get lower then. So around 1000€ all in all. It would be around 900€ if I upgraded the T5500, plus mechanic costs and all. I figured to stretch an extra 100€ to get something better, in my opinion.

My current setup has the white cooler, I think.

This is my headspace at the moment.

 

[Karlos]

Enjoying my t7500 with two 5690s and a titan xP, I use it for gaming and saw my framerate in tarkov is quite poor, Likely because of the single core performance it requires, I was wondering if changing the memory mode between numa and SMP would make a difference? If anyone knows anything let me know!

I am interested in this person's workstation. HP Z800.

• 2x Xeon 5687 3.60 GHz 2x( 4cores, 8 threads) = 16 threads
• 6x4 Gb ddr3 ecc 1333 MHz triple channel HP
• Power Supply 1250W 80plus Silver
• SSD 240 wd
• BLUE RAY Optical Drive
• SOUNDBLASTER X-FI

He sells it at 650€. I am going to get it, (if it is still available) when I have the money ready, in two weeks. Then after a month, I am going to purchase a graphics card, hopefully prices get lower then. So around 1000€ all in all. It would be around 900€ if I upgraded the T5500, plus mechanic costs and all. I figured to stretch an extra 100€ to get something better, in my opinion.

My current setup has the white cooler, I think.

This is my headspace at the moment.

Ive had both a z600 and t7500, for the price you're listing seems very high, here in the UK you can get a z800 much cheaper than what you're listing with better specs. Maybe wait around for cheaper options.

 

[pashalis777]

Ive had both a z600 and t7500, for the price you're listing seems very high, here in the UK you can get a z800 much cheaper than what you're listing with better specs. Maybe wait around for cheaper options.

Thank you, could you link or pm me some Z800s, with better specifications?

Edit: How much do you think should cost the Z800 (with the specifications above)?

 

[Karlos]

Thank you, could you link or pm me some Z800s, with better specifications?

Edit: How much do you think should cost the Z800 (with the specifications above)?

Prices change and obviously its different for each region but a nicely specced hp z800 can go for around £300-400, I'd reccomend buying one with high ram and just buying the CPUs seperately and installing them yourselves as this is usually cheaper

 

[pashalis777]

Prices change and obviously its different for each region but a nicely specced hp z800 can go for around £300-400, I'd reccomend buying one with high ram and just buying the CPUs seperately and installing them yourselves as this is usually cheaper

The thing with the CPUs is they need necessary heatsinks, which are not cheap.

Also, I just found today 'pc and server parts' website where they sell costum workstations. It's interesting and I will be looking more into it, this week. Thanks

 

[Karlos]

The thing with the CPUs is they need necessary heatsinks, which are not cheap.

Also, I just found today 'pc and server parts' website where they sell costum workstations. It's interesting and I will be looking more into it, this week. Thanks

Maybe a dell t7500 may fancy your taste better, cheaper usually with the same cpus ( xeon x5690's) Have great expandability as well.

Enjoying my t7500 with two 5690s and a titan xP, I use it for gaming and saw my framerate in tarkov is quite poor, Likely because of the single core performance it requires, I was wondering if changing the memory mode between numa and SMP would make a difference? If anyone knows anything let me know!


Ive had both a z600 and t7500, for the price you're listing seems very high, here in the UK you can get a z800 much cheaper than what you're listing with better specs. Maybe wait around for cheaper options.

Bump for original question above, still not sure which memory mode is better for gaming

 

[lexluthermiester]

Bump for original question above, still not sure which memory mode is better for gaming

Numa & SMP have no real advantage over each other in gaming. However, the way SMP works suggests that it would be more stable for games.

 

[mouks]

Thank you, could you link or pm me some Z800s, with better specifications?

Edit: How much do you think should cost the Z800 (with the specifications above)?

A few weeks ago, I saw a Z840 going for $300 on a local auction website. It had 2x E5-2630v3 and 64GB of ram. I would have bought it if I didn't have my T3500. My advice would be to check your local ads for a few weeks, you may find a good deal if you're not in a hurry

https://www.ricardo.ch/fr/a/1204459282/

 

[Susquehannock]

Maybe a dell t7500 may fancy your taste better, cheaper usually with the same cpus ( xeon x5690's) Have great expandability as well.

Only thing is the T7500 are so much bigger than T3500, weight near twice as much, and command a higher shipping price. Have been trying to find one locally for some time.

 

[pashalis777]

Can I 4k game in the t5500 or the z800 with their highest specifications?

 

[lexluthermiester]

Can I 4k game in the t5500 or the z800 with their highest specifications?

Yes, if you're willing to turn some in-game settings down. You'll also need the right card. An RTX2080 or RTX3070 will do the job.

 

[pashalis777]

Thanks lexluthermiester!

What kind of watts does my current heatsink (the white from the pictures above) can handle? Would an x5670 at 95 be cool(pun intended) ?

I want to attach these on my t5500, will they work?

 

[lexluthermiester]

What kind of watts does my current heatsink (the white from the pictures above) can handle? Would an x5670 at 95 be cool(pun intended) ?

You should be ok with that CPU and heatsink. However, I would really recommend getting your hands on the better heatsink and CPU. However an X5675 is still a 95w CPU and does better than a X5670.

Intel Xeon X5675 SLBYL 3.06GHz 6 Core LGA 1366 CPU Processor *km | eBay

Make sure you are buying the correct CPU! F3-Tested for Key Functions, Category 5 R2v3. Generic picture used. Bare CPU/Processor ONLY. Hard Drives. Item details.

www.ebay.com

I want to attach these on my t5500, will they work?

That is a server heatsink and while it will technically fit on the socket, making it work will be dubious at best.
What you need is one of these;

Dell Precision T3500 T5500 T7500 CPU Cooling Heatsink U016F W3550 CPU 3.06 GHZ 808226610627 | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Dell Precision T3500 T5500 T7500 CPU Cooling Heatsink U016F W3550 CPU 3.06 GHZ at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

www.ebay.com

or

Dell Precision T3500 T5500 T7500 Workstation Heatsink U016F | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Dell Precision T3500 T5500 T7500 Workstation Heatsink U016F at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

www.ebay.com

And then mount one of these to it blowing air through;

RAIDMAX 4Pack 80mm Case Fan 12V DC PC CPU Computer Cooling Fan 854190080904 | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for RAIDMAX 4Pack 80mm Case Fan 12V DC PC CPU Computer Cooling Fan at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

www.ebay.com

You'll need some zip ties too.

Get a matching CPU;

INTEL XEON X5680 PROCESSOR SLBV5 3.33GHz | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for INTEL XEON X5680 PROCESSOR SLBV5 3.33GHz at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

www.ebay.com

or

Intel Xeon X5680 - 3.33GHz CPU Processor (X5680) for sale online | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Intel Xeon X5680 - 3.33GHz CPU Processor (X5680) at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

www.ebay.com

or

Intel SLBV5 Xeon X5680 3.33 GHz LGA 1366 Desktop CPU | eBay

Good Condition. Tested in original machine under load conditions and working before removal from original machine. Also visually inspected for defects.

www.ebay.com

The extra $10 is worth it.

Get those and I'll walk you through putting it all together.
(I don't get any kick-backs for the above items, just trying to help you get the most from your system.)

 

[Mr Bill]

I'm running my X5670 @4.3 GHz the X5690's are still around $45-$50 US, do you think I would notice anything going to the X5690?

 

[lexluthermiester]

I'm running my X5670 @4.3 GHz the X5690's are still around $45-$50 US, do you think I would notice anything going to the X5690?

No. OCing is a different beast altogether from running in an OEM system like a Dell or HP. Your system is optimal and you would get nothing from an X5690. You might actually get worse performance because of the higher multiplier limiting an FSB OC.

 

[pashalis777]

@lexluthermiester Quick question, if I had to choose between a free x5680 and a free x5690, which should I pick and why? Thanks.

 

[lexluthermiester]

@lexluthermiester Quick question, if I had to choose between a free x5680 and a free x5690, which should I pick and why? Thanks.

If it's free take it!! The X5690 is 133mhz faster and uses the same heatsink I listed earlier.

 

[pashalis777]

Would you mind checking these? They are supposed to be supported by the 1366 socket. It's in Greek language, though. I hope you could manage your way around them (near the bottom of the page of each, above the reviews are the specifications) and pick the best/and cheapest, for my mobo. Consider that either an X5680 or an X5690 will be the CPU. Thank you very much @lexluthermiester !

 

[lexluthermiester]

Would you mind checking these? They are supposed to be supported by the 1366 socket. It's in Greek language, though. I hope you could manage your way around them (near the bottom of the page of each, above the reviews are the specifications) and pick the best/and cheapest, for my mobo. Consider that either an X5680 or an X5690 will be the CPU. Thank you very much @lexluthermiester !

Don't know whether those will work or not. Maybe? The issue with the T5500 is that the heatsink mounts are Dell design. You need a Dell heatsink to ensure proper compatibility, thus the linked heatsinks earlier.