Games Under-Performing, Unknown Culprit, Proves to be a Challenge

[TwinDenis]

Guys, I ran passmark and in the first 2-3 seconds it crashed my windows saying in the blue screen this message (it is a reference to the code/not actual):

It only happened in Passmark.

 

[95Viper]

Try turning off windows defender... or, find the program that is messing with Defender and causing the page fault. The wdfilter.sys is part of Windows Defender.

You really need to re-install your OS with a legit copy and test, before you start adding all the other software... then, add one driver at a time and see how it behaves. Do the same for your apps.

In my opinion... whether you take my advice or not, without saying you have tested or done it, is...test the ram you have, thoroughly, and you may need to add more ram after looking at your resource screenshots posted earlier.
As, you only had, like, 37MB and 1XXMB available free... the rest contained data, even the swappable (standby) memory is data to be compressed before swapping.
And, you should let windows manage your page file... the way windows handles memory now is different in windows 10, and 8, too, I believe. And, this can impact a system that is on the edge of performance.
Windows will take your data and compress it when it starts running low on memory and when that gets tight it will start swapping to the page file. This is done because compressing the data is faster than swapping in and out to the disks. This takes time, also, but, it does not cause page faults to the disk. As, you used to see some pages faults when windows had to wait to swap to the disk... with the compressing of memory, you don't.

I am not really the greatest at explaining things, so, maybe, someone else can explain all this better than I.


Try running without Malwarebytes.
Disable the HPET or Enable HPET, but be sure to do the same to Windows. It may help. --> TWEAK: Enable HPET (in BIOS and OS) for better performance and FPS

Just some of my thoughts... Goodluck, hope you figure it all out. As, this thread is so confusing and all over the place.

 

[TwinDenis]

Try turning off windows defender... or, find the program that is messing with Defender and causing the page fault. The wdfilter.sys is part of Windows Defender.

You really need to re-install your OS with a legit copy and test, before you start adding all the other software... then, add one driver at a time and see how it behaves. Do the same for your apps.

In my opinion... whether you take my advice or not, without saying you have tested or done it, is...test the ram you have, thoroughly, and you may need to add more ram after looking at your resource screenshots posted earlier.
As, you only had, like, 37MB and 1XXMB available free... the rest contained data, even the swappable (standby) memory is data to be compressed before swapping.
And, you should let windows manage your page file... the way windows handles memory now is different in windows 10, and 8, too, I believe. And, this can impact a system that is on the edge of performance.
Windows will take your data and compress it when it starts running low on memory and when that gets tight it will start swapping to the page file. This is done because compressing the data is faster than swapping in and out to the disks. This takes time, also, but, it does not cause page faults to the disk. As, you used to see some pages faults when windows had to wait to swap to the disk... with the compressing of memory, you don't.

I am not really the greatest at explaining things, so, maybe, someone else can explain all this better than I.


Try running without Malwarebytes.
Disable the HPET or Enable HPET, but be sure to do the same to Windows. It may help. --> TWEAK: Enable HPET (in BIOS and OS) for better performance and FPS

Just some of my thoughts... Goodluck, hope you figure it all out. As, this thread is so confusing and all over the place.

Yes I have dome this numerous times,
HPET is not in my bios, and more so, I do not have defender enabled at all. I did this with clean install, one by one driver installation and without my security softwares or antiviruses, firewall closed as well, only the game. No difference and still pagefaulting.

 

[95Viper]

Since, you don't have HPET in your bios, then have you checked whether it is on in Windows or off. Have you tested both ways... did you run the win timer test to see if it was synched?

I notice you say you have tried this or that or I have done that already to every ones attempt to help, so everything must be perfect and running right, so you should have it solved by now.

Have a good day and game on.

 

[eidairaman1]

I had an issue with a momentus xt 750GB Sshd. It pertains to power settings in the drive itself parking the head and stopping the platter constantly, there is no software from seagate to fix the apm settings in the firmware. If you want a drive with fast load times go get a Seagate Baracuda, WD Black or raptor drive, I have a raptor and stutters since stopped.

Hi so I wanted to ask if I can and if I should upgrade for an
"Seagate 2TB SSHD Desktop SSHD Serial ATA III Hybrid hard drive"
I want to use my pc for gaming as well, so I need faster load times, I now have issue with stuttering in games when loading assets like AI spawn or other components like vfx, so yeah. I dont want to buy an ssd because of the $/gb cost, I would like to stick with in between solution to play games and have storage, but play games with performance.
Here My specs:
Gtx 980
Mobo: dell precision t3600 Model:08HPGT
Cpu: intel xeon e5-1620 3.6ghz.
Ram: 8gb. 4x2gb sticks.
OS: Windows 10 Pro 64bit.

 

[TwinDenis]

I had an issue with a momentus xt 750GB Sshd. It pertains to power settings in the drive itself parking the head and stopping the platter constantly, there is no software from seagate to fix the apm settings in the firmware. If you want a drive with fast load times go get a Seagate Baracuda, WD Black or raptor drive, I have a raptor and stutters since stopped.

it is already decided and changed the subject, I will now update my first post if I haven't already.

Since, you don't have HPET in your bios, then have you checked whether it is on in Windows or off. Have you tested both ways... did you run the win timer test to see if it was synched?

I notice you say you have tried this or that or I have done that already to every ones attempt to help, so everything must be perfect and running right, so you should have it solved by now.

Have a good day and game on.

I will give it a try, Is this the one? http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/must-read-setfsb-o-c-game-problems-fixed.569893/

 

[95Viper]

I will give it a try, Is this the one? http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/must-read-setfsb-o-c-game-problems-fixed.569893/

I never posted that link!
Did you even read any of these posts or just glance at them... I put a link in my post for you. Here --> 281 <---

 

[TwinDenis]

Since, you don't have HPET in your bios, then have you checked whether it is on in Windows or off. Have you tested both ways... did you run the win timer test to see if it was synched?

I notice you say you have tried this or that or I have done that already to every ones attempt to help, so everything must be perfect and running right, so you should have it solved by now.

Have a good day and game on.

I never posted that link!
Did you even read any of these posts or just glance at them... I put a link in my post for you. Here --> 281 <---

Okay nevermind it did not work.

 

[P4-630]

the moment I moved my mouse is when the spikes occurred in one of the cores

Have you tried a different mouse?

 

[TwinDenis]

Have you tried a different mouse?

It is not the mouse. Yes I did.

 

[95Viper]

If you are using the on board Ethernet... download the one for your windows version; and, install this driver and see if it helps your latency issue.
Download link, here, click on it--> Network Adapter Driver for Windows® 10 Version: 20.4.1 (Latest)

 

[TwinDenis]

If you are using the on board Ethernet... download the one for your windows version; and, install this driver and see if it helps your latency issue.
Download link, here, click on it--> Network Adapter Driver for Windows® 10 Version: 20.4.1 (Latest)

Yes I already have this one, and someone suggested it as well 2-3 pages back, it is the latest version, I have also tried the OEM one as well.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

I'd like to see the wiring harness and plugs for that PSU. I am curious how the gtx is wired, do the OP have 1 harness plugged into both power receptacles on card? Actually I'd like an account of all plugs on all the harnesses. I'd like to know how the rails are delegated to which harnesses, that might be asking too much of Dell tho...

 

[MT Alex]

When you keep mentioning a clean OS install, is it from a retail Microsoft disk/usb or the startup disk that comes from Dell? Most manufactured install disks are crammed with bloatware that borders on malware. Since you say you've tried numerous versions of Windows I was assuming they were clean copies, but you also frequently mention a Dell driver finder/site that has me wondering.

 

[TwinDenis]

When you keep mentioning a clean OS install, is it from a retail Microsoft disk/usb or the startup disk that comes from Dell? Most manufactured install disks are crammed with bloatware that borders on malware. Since you say you've tried numerous versions of Windows I was assuming they were clean copies, but you also frequently mention a Dell driver finder/site that has me wondering.

It doesnt make any change. I have legit copy of windows and install it with all the system's drivers and thats it. That is for all PC.

I'd like to see the wiring harness and plugs for that PSU. I am curious how the gtx is wired, do the OP have 1 harness plugged into both power receptacles on card? Actually I'd like an account of all plugs on all the harnesses. I'd like to know how the rails are delegated to which harnesses, that might be asking too much of Dell tho...

If I didnt plug it properly my system wouldnt turn on, thats how my gpu reacts to not being plugged properly and that is why I added a cable. Going from 4pin+3pin to 4pin+4pin Directy from the psu to the gpu along with the pciegen3 it should work.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

It doesnt make any change. I have legit copy of windows and install it with all the system's drivers and thats it. That is for all PC.



If I didnt plug it properly my system wouldnt turn on, thats how my gpu reacts to not being plugged properly and that is why I added a cable. Going from 4pin+3pin to 4pin+4pin Directy from the psu to the gpu along with the pciegen3 it should work.

I'm not saying you plugged anything in wrong here. I just want to clearly see how everything is wired up.

So how many 3 (4?) plug (molex or sata) harnesses are coming off the PSU?

I have never seen a 4pins+3pin, only 4+2 pins, most gpu cables are 6+2 pin some are 4+4 but those are more commonly associated as MB connectors..

 

[Ferrum Master]

If you are using the on board Ethernet... download the one for your windows version; and, install this driver and see if it helps your latency issue.
Download link, here, click on it--> Network Adapter Driver for Windows® 10 Version: 20.4.1 (Latest)

No never. Don't use Intel LAN driver on X79 NIC, those have latency spikes and horrid disconnects. Intel has not fixed their drivers for years. Default M$ works fine.

 

[TwinDenis]

I ran memtest86+ with no issues, weird... Why do I not have issues with my ram sticks when I have "pagefaults in nonpaged area"...
Maybe give it another try, but yet again I did pass/es.

No never. Don't use Intel LAN driver on X79 NIC, those have latency spikes and horrid disconnects. Intel has not fixed their drivers for years. Default M$ works fine.

Actually both versions work the same for me...

I'm not saying you plugged anything in wrong here. I just want to clearly see how everything is wired up.

So how many 3 (4?) plug (molex or sata) harnesses are coming off the PSU?

I have never seen a 4pins+3pin, only 4+2 pins, most gpu cables are 6+2 pin some are 4+4 but those are more commonly associated as MB connectors..

yes I mean 6+6 or whatever, the default of my gpu is what I did for cables.

 

[TwinDenis]

Should I buy new memory kit?.
I got the exact problem again, it is not directed, it is not having something inside the "()", I got it again using burnintest by passmark.
here is The exact screen I got is this:

I ran memtest86+ with no errors, same for all passes:

 

[95Viper]

No never. Don't use Intel LAN driver on X79 NIC, those have latency spikes and horrid disconnects. Intel has not fixed their drivers for years. Default M$ works fine.

I never had a problem with them... and, they give easier access to more controls/settings. And, I have used them on plugin cards and onboard controllers (on various motherboards and chipsets).

 

[Ferrum Master]

I never had a problem with them... and, they give easier access to more controls/settings. And, I have used them on plugin cards and onboard controllers (on various motherboards and chipsets).

Just measure the DPC and see windows error logs. Decide for yourself. All of them suffer from it.

https://communities.intel.com/thread/54594?start=0&tstart=0

 

[TwinDenis]

I never had a problem with them... and, they give easier access to more controls/settings. And, I have used them on plugin cards and onboard controllers (on various motherboards and chipsets).

Just measure the DPC and see windows error logs. Decide for yourself. All of them suffer from it.

https://communities.intel.com/thread/54594?start=0&tstart=0

ok as said above, I have no issue with any of these drivers, mostly with my OEM ones but changed them to a specific one that has the same compatibility with my lan devices, so that is not the problem.
I have something posted above. Now if you excuse me interrupting.
This is no internet problem, dpc is fine stable greenlow to greenmid depending on what I ran, max goes to yellow and thats it, never red because it would also cause audio issues, so moving on.

 

[95Viper]

Just measure the DPC and see windows error logs. Decide for yourself. All of them suffer from it.

https://communities.intel.com/thread/54594?start=0&tstart=0

I have... However, I have never had trouble with them. Sorry you have.

 

[Bo$$]

So anyway, this is useful information in the eyes of an expert and I am sure of it, in my profession I can usually answer something when I get the symptoms told in perfect detail. I wait for a custom answer not a pre-suggested and generic one, not because I dont appreciate it but because as you said all else are already told (drivers, fresh install, bios configs etc.).

You've posted this problem several time on other forums since 2014, something is not working properly with that motherboard be it RAM latency, drivers or configuration. I will bet you will not find a solution for this issue.

It is a workstation board so cut your losses and replace with something more suited to playing league of legends (maybe an old laptop you have lying around?).

As far as i can see 12 pages of help is more than all of your threads previous combined, everyone is trying to help you.

https://forums.geforce.com/default/...ering-with-high-end-pc-advanced-help-please-/
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/911089/stuttering-gtx980-heroes-of-the-storm/?offset=2
http://forums.eune.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=788632
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2535051/game-lags-hdd-performance.html
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2745194/dell-precision-workstation-upgrade.html
http://eu.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/17288699994
http://www.techist.com/forums/f77/hard-pagefaults-help-276892/
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/531769-how-to-change-ram-voltages/ <----- you already know the problem is the board. so why continue posting

Good luck.

 

[TwinDenis]

You've posted this problem several time on other forums since 2014, something is not working properly with that motherboard be it RAM latency, drivers or configuration. I will bet you will not find a solution for this issue.

It is a workstation board so cut your losses and replace with something more suited to playing league of legends (maybe an old laptop you have lying around?).

As far as i can see 12 pages of help is more than all of your threads previous combined, everyone is trying to help you...
Good luck.

none of those are answered thus the question will continue to exist, they are all left out blank.
"
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/531769-how-to-change-ram-voltages/ <----- you already know the problem is the board. so why continue posting
"
Yes, do you read anything related to that being the answer?

I see you want to troll or something.

"It is a workstation board so cut your losses and replace with something more suited to playing league of legends (maybe an old laptop you have lying around?)."

Now seriously, league of legends can be run in any kind of pc after the models of 2008+
Laptops are a bad choice for gaming versus Desktops.

Anyway.