GTX 980/970 Club

[Frag_Maniac]

omfg Shadowplay works in 4k now!!!amgggggadd

In other words you're using all that file space and spending all that upload time just for the few people out there that can actually watch it in 2160p.

 

[erixx]

There must be a DSR game list or a FAQ somewhere... Going to search!

 

[erixx]

I just found... nothing in the Geforce Experience settings for Arma 3, but I did find for BF4!!!! Customize your settings, set them to max Quallity (not "optimal"), look for "Resolution Scale", from 100% now it's 200%.!!!!

Lauching game now to test!

EDIT: OK it obviously works! Details:
- Video RAM usage is now well above 3000 MB (3300 MB)
- FPS drop a lot: 25 frames now, (every setting is set to the max aka "ultra")
- After playing 5 minutes GPU temp is already 80ºC
- It IS PRETTY, but not recommended for fragfests or massive player numbers...

3RD EDIT: SEEMS LIKE THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN IN BF4, but is reads the same, maybe it is done at a software level, and we have to find it at a hardware level... anyway, enjoying...

 

[erixx]

Now I have read more on geforce.com and found out about this:

 

[Frag_Maniac]

^Confusing, from what I've seen it's supposed to be listed where AA is and called "Dynamic Super Resolution".

Also, I'm unaware of any need for game support. Just like various res options will show according to what res your GPU can produce, I would think DSR would show automatically if it's a DSR capable GPU. Reason being DSR is designed to work even for games that don't support AA at all.

That said, it very well may be that the game has to somehow recognize the DSR capable GPU to show it in the settings.

Can you please give a with/without scenario of what the FPS is without, then with DSR on? I'm wondering if this is yet another useless feature due to too much performance impact to be practical. It seems it would pretty much have to be a 4k capable GPU power wise. If so it would only be practical for those equipped GPU wise, but not yet display wise, for 4k.

(EDITED)

Now I have read more on geforce.com and found out about this:
View attachment 59380

Great, yeah that's how it's supposed to look. But can you please do a before/after test using 1080p as the actual res, and 2160p as the DSR, then report back with FPS for without and with? Maybe better to do it on a game that's more optimized too.

Thank you

 

[erixx]

And now BF4: i set the Resolution instead to my native 2500x1000 to 5000x2000 Super Resolution.
Well compared to "old" 200% Resolution Scale (used and commented above) it is totally smooth, equally astonishing high definition, no FPS hit !!!! (I said this BEFORE actually benching realtime FPS, but the 1st impression was OMG COOL!)

This is unbelievable!=8)

 

[erixx]

ok frag maniac, I will do that what you request. Showing actual FPS. Gimme a sec to get a cyder

 

[Frag_Maniac]

And now BF4: i set the Resolution instead to my native 2500x1000 to 5000x2000 Super Resolution.
Well compared to "old" 200% Resolution Scale (used and commented above) it is totally smooth, equally astonishing high definition, no FPS hit !!!!

This is unbelievable!=8)
View attachment 59381

Cool, what FPS Are you getting btw?

LOL, you beat me to it every time I try to respond. Now I get why the weird res, you're using a Philips ultra wide 2560x1080. You said 2500x1000, and I'm like WTF?

 

[erixx]

LOL, sorry for oversimplifications, I never pay attention to resolution details like that,.... launching tests now!

 

[erixx]

After reading the excellent feedback from GoldenTiger's 2x 970 results , I want to underline that mine are with a single non-OC 980.

BF4

200% scaling at native resolution (2500x1000)
20 fps at ultra

5000x2000 Super Resolution (no GPU OCing)
35 fps at ultra (still feels at lot more playable than 20 fps...)
44 fps at very high

Then there is a 3600x1500 Super Resolution,
much smoother of course
45 fps at ultra
(but is less impressive)

back to "Optimized" GF Experience settings
Native resolution 2560x1080
90 fps at ultra
over 100 at very high

What is the best? Testing and gaming more time will tell.

 

[GoldenTiger]

Here's my result so far (and temps that I end up at after over an hour of play in BF4 and around 90 minutes earlier in Archeage with maxed gpu usage throughout) with the aim being for silent operation & low heat output. This is on a 4.4ghz 2600k running both cards at PCI-E 2.0 x8, to boot...

This is on the MSI Gaming GTX 970 pair oc'd and just +12mv out of +87mv applied through afterburner . Haven't tried higher low-noise game-stable attempts but I can bench much higher if I raise the fans a little bit and up the volts (1540mhz+ even with the weird voltage quirk I've mentioned before) .

I also haven't tried higher for game-stable sessions yet so this probably isn't the max OC (I am guessing I could maintain about 1500mhz give or take at about this silent operation and maybe going to +25mv instead from my initial toying around). Might try that later, but given I didn't dip beneath 60fps for more than about 3 seconds out of 10 minutes recorded (which hilariously enough was literally when I opened the scoreboard... I could see the framerate drop each time ) @ 4k nearly-Ultra settings (2x msaa) in the graph there for example (and never observed under 60fps when I looked), even 1500mhz should be plenty for now until BIOS mods get going (or nvidia fixes their driver https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/777448/ ).

 

[erixx]

A detail before going to bed: p.e. Grid Autosport, "optimized" settings already use by itself the 3620X1527 DSR resolution!

 

[Frag_Maniac]

...both cards at PCI-E 2.0 x8, to boot...

Ouch! Time for a MB upgrade. I don't think Pci-Ex 2.0 x16 would affect it much, but two 2.0 x8 slots might be cheating you of as much as 10% total output. I don't see much point in even OCing them on that board.

Give them some breathing room.

 

[GoldenTiger]

Ouch! Time for a MB upgrade. I don't think Pci-Ex 2.0 x16 would affect it much, but two 2.0 x8 slots might be cheating you of as much as 10% total output. I don't see much point in even OCing them on that board.

Give them some breathing room.

I actually was a bit worried about that before getting them and found this handy-dandy article to assuage my concerns :

http://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Impact-of-PCI-E-Speed-on-Gaming-Performance-518/

End result with two oc'd titans was margin-of-error differences and a 1fps difference on a 44-45fps result at 4K. CPU may be a bit weak but the pci-e links should be good, .

 

[Frag_Maniac]

^Wow, that's not what I would have expected either. Makes ya wonder why Pci-Ex 3.0 is even a thing yet.

 

[WhiteNoise]

Any of you guys having issues with the nvidia drivers crashing? It's happening to me all too often even if the clock is at stock speeds. The highest my temp gets is 74c at full load when over clocked but even at stock speeds the drivers continue to crash randomly. I'm getting pretty pissed with this. I even wiped my pc twice. using the latest drivers by the way.

 

[z1tu]

Any of you guys having issues with the nvidia drivers crashing? It's happening to me all too often even if the clock is at stock speeds. The highest my temp gets is 74c at full load when over clocked but even at stock speeds the drivers continue to crash randomly. I'm getting pretty pissed with this. I even wiped my pc twice. using the latest drivers by the way.

I thought it was my OC. Yeah they keep crashing for me if I get too aggressive with the OC but I don't think I'm pushing my 780 that much, I mean, not more than in the past anyway. I didn't update to the latest drivers since they're for the 9x0 series.

 

[rodneyhchef]

Anyone running just one of the 970s? I'd be interested to see how they perform on their own running a physx-enabled game. I'd like to have just one card that does everything.

 

[droopyRO]

Any reference GTX 970 users here ? how is the load noise like ? Thanks.

 

[z1tu]

Anyone running just one of the 970s? I'd be interested to see how they perform on their own running a physx-enabled game. I'd like to have just one card that does everything.

Care to give an example of a game? I think 6 and 7 series can run physix games on their own just fine, let alon a 970

 

[rodneyhchef]

Metro Redux and so on. I'm a bit behind in what's physx enabled these days, but I have played the previous metro games and a few of the batman ones with hybrid physx. It's not my only motivation to get this card but an added bonus. I could sell both my GTX 460 and 7870XT and be half way towards the cost of a 970

 

[z1tu]

Metro Redux and so on. I'm a bit behind in what's physx enabled these days, but I have played the previous metro games and a few of the batman ones with hybrid physx. It's not my only motivation to get this card but an added bonus. I could sell both my GTX 460 and 7870XT and be half way towards the cost of a 970

Well metro was unoptimized to begin with and throwing in physix didn't help, I am confident that 970 on its own can run any physix game without problems

 

[erixx]

More testing, 5000x2000 and lowering the details to low. ... Keep still: 180 FPS! in BF4 must have been a weird peak... .
vRam usage: 3800 MB !! wow...

 

[Liviu Cojocaru]

Hey guys I'm in too with my MSI GTX970 OC,did anyone tried the DSR option I did and it seems to work very well and with no performance loss whatsoever.I played BF4,World of Tanks,ACBF and WatchDogs it works really well.

 

[erixx]

^Welcome Liviu! Well, I believe that you did like I did the first time: select the DSR from the resolution list per game, in GeforceExperience (GE). By doing this it lowers all other settings. (Check the horizontal Quality/Performance slider). And yes, then -and only then- it is playable at Super High Resolution, it looks really good, but ... textures, AA, and all these things are lowered. This low res stuff is very easy to see in objects, houses, roads, close to you. In the distance it is all pure joy.

You can test this, by editing the settings back to High or Ultra one by one in GE, or do the same IN the game, AFTER setting resolution to a DSR-resolution. Then your FPS will drop down on their knees!