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I'm sold, who else is getting an AMD 3600x?

my ryzen 5 1600 at 4.025ghz scores nearly the same...
 
cucker tarlson said:
you've got b350 on x370 bios too :laugh:
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Asrock AB350M Pro4 with Asrock AB450M Pro4 bios

So if you saw my other thread you will understand the logic behind what ive done here. so straight to the point, the flash works so far. ive tested the usb ports, the sata ports, m.2 slots, lan port along with the audio outputs. ive put it threw my normal rounds of prime95 for stability and...
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Asrock AB350M Pro4 With X370M Pro4 Bios

So i was tinkering around with my motherboards bios and saw that Asrock put another x370 motherboard for sale (x370m pro4) that appeared to be a clone of the ab350m Pro4. Sense i figured i could just reflash the board using one of my programmers if i had a bad flash i decided to go ahead and...
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ive even flashed a x370 taichi bios and a bunch of others. i found that i can flash the board with any bios from all the boards asrock is offering that have 4 dimm slots. trying any bios from a board that has less then 4 slots gets real buggy.
 
cucker tarlson said:
seems like it's not malfunctioning then.I know what my 5775c can do and 8600k at 4.7 is about the same.
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yeah but the AMD 3600 will change everything!

bug said:
Ah, the "everybody knows" argument. Feel free to link some posts or articles on the subject, because I am not aware of this.
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by "everybody" I mean all the ryzen owners posting on youtube but I figure they represent the general PC gaming audience.
 
"Should Be"
"Might Be"
"Most Likely"
"Likely"

Don't buy into the AMD Hype Train. I love AMD and would love ONE of their products to actually meet the hype they build up...just never does. I haven't ran AMD since Opteron 146, prior to that was a Winchester 3000. I hope I am wrong but historically their hype train far exceeds reality.
 
ZenZimZaliben said:
"Should Be"
"Might Be"
"Most Likely"
"Likely"

Don't buy into the AMD Hype Train. I love AMD and would love ONE of their products to actually meet the hype they build up...just never does. I haven't ran AMD since Opteron 146, prior to that was a Winchester 3000. I hope I am wrong but historically their hype train far exceeds reality.
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don't buy into any hype train,it's not like this hype train is any different from any hype train
 
cucker tarlson said:
don't buy into any hype train,it's not like this hype train is any different from any hype train
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Yup. Same rules apply to all. However some aren't as lofty as others claims. Still it's good rule to follow. Don't buy the Hype.
 
So, hypeboys is the new trend in free marketing.
 
dirtyferret said:
yeah but with 12 threads!



no, it plays every game I toss at it from @ 1080p at a steady FPS (100-200 FPS) with no stutter
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Its all about closing all those speculative execution vulnerabilities bro. Soon you will be able to rest easy. Also the X570 platform should be relevant through Ryzen 6. So you will be completely future proofed.
 
Maybe you can even unlock the hidden cores.
 
Nice troll thread.
 
theoneandonlymrk said:
Fully agree on your preorderr stance.

Hartily disagree on your four change the world comments, new tech takes time to hit an installed base worth writing software for etc etc.
I won't go on it's off topic but stick to your points without the grandiose statements.
I mean Nm didn't change the world, you think that tut ,Turing was IMPOSSIBLE before 12-14nm as was Pascal and Zen and polaris.
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Either intentionally or unintentionally, you missed the entire point. Don't twist the narrative. The hype never said it was going to change the world "someday", the hype was it was going to change the world upon release . It didn't then, it hasn't yet now years later and it's not going anywhere ... maybe you can update us all on what we can expect from mantle in the next 1 ... 2 ... 20 years ?

And while AMD has made some nice jumps, generation to generation, for the most part, they have not taken the lead. If a driver is behind the leader in the Indy 500 and they the 2nd place driver finishes his last lap a full 15% better than any previous lap he's ever gone, it don't matter beans if he don't cross the finish line 1st.

While cores certainly have their benefits in limited applications, they can't get around the major PC bottleneck ... that's us ... machines can multitask, we can't. CPU increases generation to generation have remained < 5% since Sandy Bridge. That's the fallacy that users love to ignore ... a legal secretary isn't going to type any more legal briefs in a day by switching to an SSD or a CPU w/ more cores.

The $285 8 core Ryzom 2700x finishes in 10th place
The $20 6 core 8400 finishes in 9th place
The two generations back 4 core 7700k finishes in 6th place
The $285 6 core 8600k finishes in 5th place
The $50 6 core 9600k finishes in 3rd place


In video editing ...

The $495 9900k which finishes 1st place in gaming beats the $600 2920X ... which is about as far as I see the hobbyist going. The $1700 32 core 2990WX and $1230 24 core 2970 WX lose to the $830 16 core 2950X in video editing ... so what happened to more cores being a panacea ? At this level, we are talking "production environment" and it's all about labor and machine time. The 16 core 9960X costs $1700 and the 16 core 2950X is $830 ... does it pay for the 6.4 % speed increase to the 9960X? In a production environment it will pay for itself in 2 -3 weeks. But, again, the hobbyist won't care and won't be investing $800 + ..

For the gamer / video hobbyists, the 9900k's 754.5 score comes at investment of $495, which certainly is an easier choice than the $600 2920x for video editing ... the 9900k is only 1.5% faster in video editing but it's 20% faster in gaming.
 
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I built a Ryzen 1600/ Asrock b450 Pro 4 /RX570 4gb/ 8gb ddr4 3000mhz/ 240gb InLand pro SSD/ CM White 500w 80+....All for $400
If I can get a CPU that equals an 8700-non K for $200 bones then I'll be all over that shit yo.
But if it's under even a LiL then I'm not buying until the refresh.
I will most certainly wait for the reviews...as it is I'm certain it won't match my almost 2yo 8700K so it's already a pointless build

IMO honest opinion though....AMD has been about 2 gen behind Intel since 2006...The only difference now is Intel hit a wall and AMD is just about caught up with an opportunity to take ~10% of the market share at best before intel slaps them in the face with their proverbial Dick.
I understand the enthusiasm for those that have a gen 1 Ryzens'....
 
John Naylor said:
Either intentionally or unintentionally, you missed the entire point. Don't twist the narrative. They never said it was going to change the world "someday", the hype was it was going to change the world upon release . It didn't then, it hasn't yet now years later and it's not happening ... maybe you can update us all on what we can expect from mantle in the next 1 ... 2... 20 years ?
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The hype, that's not AMD ,that's random , sometimes optimistic forum debaters, because I can't remember Amd saying that either.
Point is , he is sold ,says in the title. I
I agree with you, wait for reviews but I'm not so neg on the rest , shrug.

In general, more use, use cases and performance. Btw
 
ZenZimZaliben said:
"Should Be"
"Might Be"
"Most Likely"
"Likely"

Don't buy into the AMD Hype Train. I love AMD and would love ONE of their products to actually meet the hype they build up...just never does. I haven't ran AMD since Opteron 146, prior to that was a Winchester 3000. I hope I am wrong but historically their hype train far exceeds reality.
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I am not buying into any hype train. I am buying into Lisa Su, the fact that every board vendor had at least 6 X570 boards at Computex, the fact that there were no B550 boards to see yet. The fact that Ryzen is much faster than Piledriver. The fact that there was a nocticable improvement in performance from 1st gen to 2nd gen, the fact that it is 7nm, the fact that I can use my MB and get a brand new chip, the fact that it is actually the Internet and Youtube that are hyping up AMD more than AMD themselves.
 
Hey Mantle lived up and even surpassed the hype. Vulkan kicks DX12 and Metal's ass.
 
GoldenX said:
Hey Mantle lived up and even surpassed the hype. Vulkan kicks DX12 and Metal's ass.
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Not really. The hype was about an API that will allow programmers to unleash the full hardware potential. What we got is a more complicated API that doesn't get much programmer love at all. DX12 doesn't fare any better.

The potential is still there, but, as it usually happens, behind all the hype, the ugly truth was hiding ;)
 
Considering a move to the 3600X or 3700X. Six cores is plenty but with the IPC uplift, and if it's possible to OC to 4.5 GHz I'd be happy.
 
bug said:
Not really. The hype was about an API that will allow programmers to unleash the full hardware potential. What we got is a more complicated API that doesn't get much programmer love at all. DX12 doesn't fare any better.

The potential is still there, but, as it usually happens, behind all the hype, the ugly truth was hiding ;)
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Most game developers hasn't used it to it's full potential. Emulator ones have done so, and it's great.
Look at Doom, light on resources, looks awesome, just works.

The only problem with both Vulkan and DX12 right now, is that they are not as feature rich as their predecessors, OpenGL compat is far more complete than Vulkan, and DX11 is just still too good for today tools. That's slowly changing.
 
GoldenX said:
Most game developers hasn't used it to it's full potential. Emulator ones have done so, and it's great.
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Which is what I've said. They promised a golden age, it's not here yet.
GoldenX said:
Look at Doom, light on resources, looks awesome, just works.
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Yeah, Carmack is always at the cutting edge of GFX tech. I love that guy.
Unfortunately, not every developer has a Carmack :(
 
mouacyk said:
Maybe you can even unlock the hidden cores.
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mouacyk said:
Maybe you can even unlock the hidden cores.
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Phenom II was a gift we took for granted, now it's lost in the sands of time...
Man, I sold a lot of Sempron 140/145 PCs, half of them unlocked fine, those who got them were very happy.
 
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