• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

Intel Core i5-12600K

Joined
Jun 21, 2013
Messages
604 (0.14/day)
Processor Ryzen 9 3900x
Motherboard MSI B550 Gaming Plus
Cooling be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4
Memory 32GB GSkill Ripjaws V 3600CL16
Video Card(s) 3060Ti FE 0.9v
Storage Samsung 970 EVO 1TB, 2x Samsung 840 EVO 1TB
Display(s) ASUS ProArt PA278QV
Case be quiet! Pure Base 500
Audio Device(s) Edifier R1850DB
Power Supply Super Flower Leadex III 650W
Mouse A4Tech X-748K
Keyboard Logitech K300
Software Win 10 Pro 64bit

Jay should delete all the bloatware from his AMD system the next time he's doing idle power draw tests:


And these are accurate results. My own system idles at ~48W.
 
Joined
Jan 27, 2015
Messages
1,733 (0.48/day)
System Name Legion
Processor i7-12700KF
Motherboard Asus Z690-Plus TUF Gaming WiFi D5
Cooling Arctic Liquid Freezer 2 240mm AIO
Memory PNY MAKO DDR5-6000 C36-36-36-76
Video Card(s) PowerColor Hellhound 6700 XT 12GB
Storage WD SN770 512GB m.2, Samsung 980 Pro m.2 2TB
Display(s) Acer K272HUL 1440p / 34" MSI MAG341CQ 3440x1440
Case Montech Air X
Power Supply Corsair CX750M
Mouse Logitech MX Anywhere 25
Keyboard Logitech MX Keys
Software Lots
Yeah, he seemed like he was being careful to be fair.

He spent the first 12:30s on that rofl.

It's not a totally apples to apples demonstration but, those idle and low load numbers tell me everything I need to know about AMD efficiency.

I probably hit 100% CPU a dozen times a day for like one second, and sit at 1-5% for 95% of my time. So basically for 12 seconds a day the max load benchmarks are relevant to me. The other 86388 seconds of a day they are irrelevant.

Even in real gaming, spikes above 20% are rare. I know because I did perfmon many times for multiple days to see what my workload was like. And my workload is actually > than normal users.
 
Joined
Sep 17, 2014
Messages
22,564 (6.03/day)
Location
The Washing Machine
System Name Tiny the White Yeti
Processor 7800X3D
Motherboard MSI MAG Mortar b650m wifi
Cooling CPU: Thermalright Peerless Assassin / Case: Phanteks T30-120 x3
Memory 32GB Corsair Vengeance 30CL6000
Video Card(s) ASRock RX7900XT Phantom Gaming
Storage Lexar NM790 4TB + Samsung 850 EVO 1TB + Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial BX100 250GB
Display(s) Gigabyte G34QWC (3440x1440)
Case Lian Li A3 mATX White
Audio Device(s) Harman Kardon AVR137 + 2.1
Power Supply EVGA Supernova G2 750W
Mouse Steelseries Aerox 5
Keyboard Lenovo Thinkpad Trackpoint II
VR HMD HD 420 - Green Edition ;)
Software W11 IoT Enterprise LTSC
Benchmark Scores Over 9000
What? The 10400f has been around for 2 years at ~140€. What are youtalking about?



Are you saying that a CPU will run any GPU regardless? No, at some point it will start bottlenecking, no matter when that time is. So a CPU that is , let's say 15% faster, can support a 15% faster GPU than the one that bottlenecks your 8700k.

I did have the 8700k, and yes its still a beast, but there are games out right now that it bottlenecks a high end card, unless you heavy tune it and memory oc the crap out of it.

Got examples and numbers?

Every PC has a bottleneck. You always have one. Perfect balance doesnt exist.

Its irrelevant the moment you exceed your monitor refresh rate on the GPU or when the GPU is the limiting factor. And with VRR modes it gets even more irrelevant.

Im always ready to be convinced. So please give it your best shot :)

The gist being of course, 'what is the value of this upgrade'. For gaming, its going to be so minimal, yet have so many drawbacks, because you're early adopting into everything you shouldn't - fresh Windows, DDR5, new arch and scheduling... the works.

The translation is wrong, obviously. It's score per WATT, higher is obviously better. It's pretty freaking obvious just looking at the numbers, do you think a 12900k at 241w is more efficient than a 12900k at 125w? Lolk

Is it that hard to just admit you made a mistake, when it is clearly obvious you did? It's a german site and lots of translations are wrong. For example in the graph it says watts per hour which is also wrong, instead it measures watts consumed. Anyways, if you are not willing to admit your mistake, you are indeed done

Well spotted! Its true, it has to be points per watt.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Oct 16, 2018
Messages
966 (0.43/day)
Location
Uttar Pradesh, India
Processor AMD R7 1700X @ 4100Mhz
Motherboard MSI B450M MORTAR MAX (MS-7B89)
Cooling Phanteks PH-TC14PE
Memory Crucial Technology 16GB DR (DDR4-3600) - C9BLM:045M:E BL16G36C16U4W.M16FE1 X2 @ CL14
Video Card(s) XFX RX480 GTR 8GB @ 1408Mhz (AMD Auto OC)
Storage Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB
Display(s) Acer KG271 1080p @ 81Hz
Power Supply SuperFlower Leadex II 750W 80+ Gold
Keyboard Redragon Devarajas RGB
Software Microsoft Windows 10 (10.0) Professional 64-bit
Benchmark Scores https://valid.x86.fr/mvvj3a
Jay did a power draw test which should answer your question.
AMD system
Hey guys this system here has
10 X RGB FANS
Has waterblock etc
So we know this system over is using more wattage hence the high idle but we not comparing idle in this video.

Intel System
this has less connected to it.

Conclusion at end of video. AMD has very bad high idle power consumption.

I am truly lost for words.
 
Joined
Sep 17, 2014
Messages
22,564 (6.03/day)
Location
The Washing Machine
System Name Tiny the White Yeti
Processor 7800X3D
Motherboard MSI MAG Mortar b650m wifi
Cooling CPU: Thermalright Peerless Assassin / Case: Phanteks T30-120 x3
Memory 32GB Corsair Vengeance 30CL6000
Video Card(s) ASRock RX7900XT Phantom Gaming
Storage Lexar NM790 4TB + Samsung 850 EVO 1TB + Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial BX100 250GB
Display(s) Gigabyte G34QWC (3440x1440)
Case Lian Li A3 mATX White
Audio Device(s) Harman Kardon AVR137 + 2.1
Power Supply EVGA Supernova G2 750W
Mouse Steelseries Aerox 5
Keyboard Lenovo Thinkpad Trackpoint II
VR HMD HD 420 - Green Edition ;)
Software W11 IoT Enterprise LTSC
Benchmark Scores Over 9000
AMD system
Hey guys this system here has
10 X RGB FANS
Has waterblock etc
So we know this system over is using more wattage hence the high idle but we not comparing idle in this video.

Intel System
this has less connected to it.

Conclusion at end of video. AMD has very bad high idle power consumption.

I am truly lost for words.

Youtuber Intelligence. It never ceases to amaze, nor does the flock of sheep clicking them.

There are only good reasons to read instead of watch. And write instead of be a TV personality. It defines the content and nobody escapes that reality. Reading is healthy, getting spoonfed with content breeds intellectual laziness.
 
Joined
Jan 27, 2015
Messages
1,733 (0.48/day)
System Name Legion
Processor i7-12700KF
Motherboard Asus Z690-Plus TUF Gaming WiFi D5
Cooling Arctic Liquid Freezer 2 240mm AIO
Memory PNY MAKO DDR5-6000 C36-36-36-76
Video Card(s) PowerColor Hellhound 6700 XT 12GB
Storage WD SN770 512GB m.2, Samsung 980 Pro m.2 2TB
Display(s) Acer K272HUL 1440p / 34" MSI MAG341CQ 3440x1440
Case Montech Air X
Power Supply Corsair CX750M
Mouse Logitech MX Anywhere 25
Keyboard Logitech MX Keys
Software Lots
Youtuber Intelligence. It never ceases to amaze, nor does the flock of sheep clicking them.

There are only good reasons to read instead of watch. And write instead of be a TV personality. It defines the content and nobody escapes that reality. Reading is healthy, getting spoonfed with content breeds intellectual laziness.

Wow, you're so smart.

Or alternately you might choose to listen to the first 12 1/2 minutes of that video.

I'm assuming you did that before passing judgement, correct?

Probably I shouldn't have posted the relevant time on the video.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Joined
Sep 17, 2014
Messages
22,564 (6.03/day)
Location
The Washing Machine
System Name Tiny the White Yeti
Processor 7800X3D
Motherboard MSI MAG Mortar b650m wifi
Cooling CPU: Thermalright Peerless Assassin / Case: Phanteks T30-120 x3
Memory 32GB Corsair Vengeance 30CL6000
Video Card(s) ASRock RX7900XT Phantom Gaming
Storage Lexar NM790 4TB + Samsung 850 EVO 1TB + Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial BX100 250GB
Display(s) Gigabyte G34QWC (3440x1440)
Case Lian Li A3 mATX White
Audio Device(s) Harman Kardon AVR137 + 2.1
Power Supply EVGA Supernova G2 750W
Mouse Steelseries Aerox 5
Keyboard Lenovo Thinkpad Trackpoint II
VR HMD HD 420 - Green Edition ;)
Software W11 IoT Enterprise LTSC
Benchmark Scores Over 9000
Wow, you're so smart.

Or alternately you might choose to listen to the first 12 1/2 minutes of that video.

I'm assuming you did that before passing judgement, correct?

Probably I shouldn't have posted the relevant time on the video.

Bcause, you know, spoonfeeding some people with a shortcut to content breeds intellectual laziness.

There is nothing in it that refutes what @The King stated. Jays statements on idle draw are pretty strange, because they also don't match what's shown in the reviews on TPU.
 
Joined
Oct 16, 2018
Messages
966 (0.43/day)
Location
Uttar Pradesh, India
Processor AMD R7 1700X @ 4100Mhz
Motherboard MSI B450M MORTAR MAX (MS-7B89)
Cooling Phanteks PH-TC14PE
Memory Crucial Technology 16GB DR (DDR4-3600) - C9BLM:045M:E BL16G36C16U4W.M16FE1 X2 @ CL14
Video Card(s) XFX RX480 GTR 8GB @ 1408Mhz (AMD Auto OC)
Storage Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB
Display(s) Acer KG271 1080p @ 81Hz
Power Supply SuperFlower Leadex II 750W 80+ Gold
Keyboard Redragon Devarajas RGB
Software Microsoft Windows 10 (10.0) Professional 64-bit
Benchmark Scores https://valid.x86.fr/mvvj3a
There is nothing in it that refutes what @The King stated. Jays statements on idle draw are pretty strange, because they also don't match what's shown in the reviews on TPU.
The guy is a walking contradiction. @ 3mins 50 seconds

He literally says you can't compare these two systems because the Intel system will need to have 10 fans etc to be a fair idle comparison.
Then says I will remove two sticks of RAM from the Ryzen system and now its an apples to apples as we can get.
But Jay! What about the 10 fans and the water-block loop connected to the GPU on the Ryzen 5800 system?

You just said you cant compare them and now its apples to apples by removing two sticks of ram?o_O

If anything it proves that even with 10 fans and a water-block connected to it the Ryzen 5800X system, still used far less overall power underload in the load tests compared to the 12900K.
 
Joined
Sep 17, 2014
Messages
22,564 (6.03/day)
Location
The Washing Machine
System Name Tiny the White Yeti
Processor 7800X3D
Motherboard MSI MAG Mortar b650m wifi
Cooling CPU: Thermalright Peerless Assassin / Case: Phanteks T30-120 x3
Memory 32GB Corsair Vengeance 30CL6000
Video Card(s) ASRock RX7900XT Phantom Gaming
Storage Lexar NM790 4TB + Samsung 850 EVO 1TB + Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial BX100 250GB
Display(s) Gigabyte G34QWC (3440x1440)
Case Lian Li A3 mATX White
Audio Device(s) Harman Kardon AVR137 + 2.1
Power Supply EVGA Supernova G2 750W
Mouse Steelseries Aerox 5
Keyboard Lenovo Thinkpad Trackpoint II
VR HMD HD 420 - Green Edition ;)
Software W11 IoT Enterprise LTSC
Benchmark Scores Over 9000
The guy is a walking contradiction. @ 3mins 50 seconds

He literally says you can't compare these two systems because the Intel system will need to have 10 fans etc to be a fair idle comparison.
Then says I will remove two sticks of RAM from the Ryzen system and now its an apples to apples as we can get.
But Jay! What about the 10 fans and the water-block loop connected to the GPU on the Ryzen 5800 system?

You just said you cant compare them and now its apples to apples by removing two sticks of ram?o_O

If anything it proves that even with 10 fans and a water-block connected to it the Ryzen 5800X system, still used far less overall power underload in the load tests compared to the 12900K.

And the tests are not even synced ;) Who knows what's what.
 
Joined
Jun 18, 2017
Messages
117 (0.04/day)
I remember watching this PC repair challenge and Jay was having a hard time even though Linus was trying to feed him the solutions. There's a recap on GN's channel but I don't think it illustrates just how bad Jay was at troubleshooting.

 
Joined
Apr 6, 2021
Messages
1,131 (0.84/day)
Location
Bavaria ⌬ Germany
System Name ✨ Lenovo M700 [Tiny]
Cooling ⚠️ 78,08% N² ⌬ 20,95% O² ⌬ 0,93% Ar ⌬ 0,04% CO²
Audio Device(s) ◐◑ AKG K702 ⌬ FiiO E10K Olympus 2
Mouse ✌️ Corsair M65 RGB Elite [Black] ⌬ Endgame Gear MPC-890 Cordura
Keyboard ⌨ Turtle Beach Impact 500
Jay did a power draw test which should answer your question.

I like Jay, but that's the most unscientific test I have seen in a while.

Just lazy. If he continues like that, he soon has to do reviews for Man Bra's. :roll:
 
Joined
Jan 29, 2021
Messages
1,866 (1.32/day)
Location
Alaska USA
I remember watching this PC repair challenge and Jay was having a hard time even though Linus was trying to feed him the solutions. There's a recap on GN's channel but I don't think it illustrates just how bad Jay was at troubleshooting.

Anything is better than those two clowns on Hardware Unboxed.
 
Joined
Jun 14, 2020
Messages
3,526 (2.15/day)
System Name Mean machine
Processor 12900k
Motherboard MSI Unify X
Cooling Noctua U12A
Memory 7600c34
Video Card(s) 4090 Gamerock oc
Storage 980 pro 2tb
Display(s) Samsung crg90
Case Fractal Torent
Audio Device(s) Hifiman Arya / a30 - d30 pro stack
Power Supply Be quiet dark power pro 1200
Mouse Viper ultimate
Keyboard Blackwidow 65%
AMD system
Hey guys this system here has
10 X RGB FANS
Has waterblock etc
So we know this system over is using more wattage hence the high idle but we not comparing idle in this video.

Intel System
this has less connected to it.

Conclusion at end of video. AMD has very bad high idle power consumption.

I am truly lost for words.
10 fans and an AIO don't need more than 2AMPS to work. It's pretty obvious by the fact that you can actually connect 4-5 fans to a single 4pin of your mobo. That 4pin usually supports up to 1 amp.
 
Joined
Feb 8, 2017
Messages
229 (0.08/day)
Great value, essentially getting 12 cores for $300 and it beats the 5600x easily, but nothing earth shattering in terms of performance. It beats the 8 core 5800x and ends up losing to the 12 cores 5900x and power consumption in applications seems to be through the roof, especially for a supposed mid range cpu, but its still solid considering its onkly $300.

The issue is high costs of motherboards and of course you want to buy DDR5 with this, it would be stupid not to get the future looking memory, but the cost is very restrictive. I can see people with Ryzen 1000 or 2000 or Intel 6/7/8/9th generation who want to upgrade and plan on reusing their DDR4 modules jumping on board and going for the 12600k. I think its a tough sell for 10/11th gen Intel users especially since the performance between all of them is very similar and both are very recent cpu's, so if you shelved out $300 on a 10600k cpu less than 2 years ago, you wouldn't want to doll out another $300 so soon, even if performance is significantly increased. Again with cost of new motherboard and cooler you are probably looking at $550 cost just for those 3 parts.
 

Mussels

Freshwater Moderator
Joined
Oct 6, 2004
Messages
58,413 (7.92/day)
Location
Oystralia
System Name Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load)
Processor Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core)
Motherboard Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded)
Cooling Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate
Memory 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V)
Video Card(s) Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W))
Storage 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2
Display(s) Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144)
Case Fractal Design R6
Audio Device(s) Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic
Power Supply Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY)
Mouse Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
Keyboard Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps)
VR HMD Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
Software Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware!
Benchmark Scores Nyooom.
AMD system
Hey guys this system here has
10 X RGB FANS
Has waterblock etc
So we know this system over is using more wattage hence the high idle but we not comparing idle in this video.

Intel System
this has less connected to it.

Conclusion at end of video. AMD has very bad high idle power consumption.

I am truly lost for words.

At 2:50 he specifically even states "the AMD system has more connected, this is all about load wattages"


But how much load wattage needs to be removed from the AMD for all that crap?


10 fans and an AIO don't need more than 2AMPS to work. It's pretty obvious by the fact that you can actually connect 4-5 fans to a single 4pin of your mobo. That 4pin usually supports up to 1 amp.
Yes and no.
NF-A12x25 uses <2W (0.14A) per fan, so yes you'd be right on that with standard fans.
Corsairs LL120 ARGB fans however, are 0.30A (3.6W) - just over double that
A D5 pump uses 1.8A (~22W)

So with just the pump and 10 fans, we're already upto 60 Watts if they're at higher settings. Then theres lighting controllers, LED strips, fan controllers/hubs...
 
Last edited:
Joined
Aug 9, 2019
Messages
1,715 (0.88/day)
Processor 7800X3D 2x16GB CO
Motherboard Asrock B650m HDV
Cooling Peerless Assassin SE
Memory 2x16GB DR A-die@6000c30 tuned
Video Card(s) Asus 4070 dual OC 2610@915mv
Storage WD blue 1TB nvme
Display(s) Lenovo G24-10 144Hz
Case Corsair D4000 Airflow
Power Supply EVGA GQ 650W
Software Windows 10 home 64
Benchmark Scores Superposition 8k 5267 Aida64 58.5ns
Good review, but I think alder lake has an unfair advantage with 6000cl36 ram vs 3600cl16-20-20 on others. I know Rocket lake is close to gear 1 lim, but Comet lake and Zen 3 should have had 3800 in my opinion. Another option would be testing Alder lake at 5200-5600cl38 as this would be comparable to 3600cl16 on the others.
 

W1zzard

Administrator
Staff member
Joined
May 14, 2004
Messages
27,891 (3.71/day)
Processor Ryzen 7 5700X
Memory 48 GB
Video Card(s) RTX 4080
Storage 2x HDD RAID 1, 3x M.2 NVMe
Display(s) 30" 2560x1600 + 19" 1280x1024
Software Windows 10 64-bit
Giving us idle power and max load power consumption in a practical sense is like a car enthusiast site doing a car review and only giving gallons/hr of fuel consumed at idle and at full throttle as a measure of efficiency. This has absolutely nothing to do with efficiency and they would be laughed out of business for giving such worthless data points.

The fact this somehow cuts the mustard for PC enthusiasts is a good indicator that a lot of what is in all of these reviews is likely just so much BS, it also says a lot about their readers.
I started a new thread, so we can focus on the topic: https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/...er-consumption-testing-in-cpu-reviews.288761/
 
Last edited:
Joined
Jun 27, 2016
Messages
294 (0.10/day)
System Name MacBook Pro 16"
Processor M1 Pro
Memory 16GB unified memory
Storage 1 TB
I wonder if the Apple M1 PRO will destroy this.. you should also include the Apple silicon on the benchmark scoreboards
 
Joined
Jan 20, 2019
Messages
1,575 (0.73/day)
Location
London, UK
System Name ❶ Oooh (2024) ❷ Aaaah (2021) ❸ Ahemm (2017)
Processor ❶ 5800X3D ❷ i7-9700K ❸ i7-7700K
Motherboard ❶ X570-F ❷ Z390-E ❸ Z270-E
Cooling ❶ ALFIII 360 ❷ X62 + X72 (GPU mod) ❸ X62
Memory ❶ 32-3600/16 ❷ 32-3200/16 ❸ 16-3200/16
Video Card(s) ❶ 3080 X Trio ❷ 2080TI (AIOmod) ❸ 1080TI
Storage ❶ NVME/SSD/HDD ❷ <SAME ❸ SSD/HDD
Display(s) ❶ 1440/165/IPS ❷ 1440/144/IPS ❸ 1080/144/IPS
Case ❶ BQ Silent 601 ❷ Cors 465X ❸ Frac Mesh C
Audio Device(s) ❶ HyperX C2 ❷ HyperX C2 ❸ Logi G432
Power Supply ❶ HX1200 Plat ❷ RM750X ❸ EVGA 650W G2
Mouse ❶ Logi G Pro ❷ Razer Bas V3 ❸ Logi G502
Keyboard ❶ Logi G915 TKL ❷ Anne P2 ❸ Logi G610
Software ❶ Win 11 ❷ 10 ❸ 10
Benchmark Scores I have wrestled bandwidths, Tussled with voltages, Handcuffed Overclocks, Thrown Gigahertz in Jail
Glad to have followed the thread to the 12th page. I take it 12th Gen temps/power draw are just as decent as Zen 3?

I wander if W1zzard can add gaming temps to the mix in future reviews.
 
Joined
Jul 5, 2013
Messages
28,099 (6.73/day)
I take it 12th Gen temps/power draw are just as decent as Zen 3?
Not quite. Alder Lake is a bit more power hungry than Zen3, a lot more in the upper performance ranges.
I wander if W1zzard can add gaming temps to the mix in future reviews.
He doesn't really need to. No game that I know of will load a CPU to it's max like the other tests have done. Even if you find one that does, all it'll do is cause the CPU to exhibit the same thermal characteristics that have already been shown with the current tests. The testing that has been done tells you everything you need to know. W1zzard's testing didn't miss a single beat.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Oct 7, 2018
Messages
118 (0.05/day)
Location
Pennsylvania, USA
Processor AMD Ryzen 5900X
Motherboard MSI MAG B550 Mortar
Cooling ARCTIC COOLING Liquid Freezer II 240
Memory G.SKILL Flare X Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200
Video Card(s) EVGA GeForce GTX 2080 FTW3 Ultra, 08G-P4-2287-KR, 8GB GDDR6
Storage 1 x Samsung 980 PRO 500G | 1 x Mushkin Enhanced Pilot-E M.2 2280 2TB | 2 x 1TB WD10EADS
Display(s) 1 x ASUS ROG PG259QNR, 1 x Dell ST2421L
Case Lian Li O11D MINI-X
Audio Device(s) SteelSeries Arctis 5
Power Supply Seasonic FOCUS SGX-650, 650W
Mouse Mionix NAOS QG
Keyboard SteelSeries Apex Pro
Software Windows 10 Pro 21H1
Does anyone have any information on what security hardware mitigations have been implemented in Alder Lake cpus? I am having a hard time on Intel's Ark pages to display this information. It is not on the 12600k product page. I remember Intel posting a spreadsheet how each fix was implemented back with Whiskey Lake, but I am not finding anything with this architecture. I am just curious. Thanks.
 

Mussels

Freshwater Moderator
Joined
Oct 6, 2004
Messages
58,413 (7.92/day)
Location
Oystralia
System Name Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load)
Processor Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core)
Motherboard Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded)
Cooling Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate
Memory 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V)
Video Card(s) Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W))
Storage 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2
Display(s) Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144)
Case Fractal Design R6
Audio Device(s) Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic
Power Supply Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY)
Mouse Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
Keyboard Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps)
VR HMD Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
Software Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware!
Benchmark Scores Nyooom.
Not quite. Alder Lake is a bit more power hungry than Zen3, a lot more in the upper performance ranges.

He doesn't really need to. No game that I know of will load a CPU to it's max like the other tests have done. Even if you find one that does, all it'll do is cause the CPU to exhibit the same thermal characteristics that have already been shown with the current tests. The testing that has been done tells you everything you need to know. W1zzard's testing didn't miss a single beat.
This is being discussed in another thread - but the basic summary is, it's worth knowing if your gaming results are costing you 60W or 300W.
Modern CPU's (and now hybrid CPU's) with all the idling, boosting, and preferred core swapping really do make it so low thread count loads can still use a lot of power.
 
Joined
Jul 5, 2013
Messages
28,099 (6.73/day)
Does anyone have any information on what security hardware mitigations have been implemented in Alder Lake cpus? I am having a hard time on Intel's Ark pages to display this information. It is not on the 12600k product page. I remember Intel posting a spreadsheet how each fix was implemented back with Whiskey Lake, but I am not finding anything with this architecture. I am just curious. Thanks.
What security problems are you concerned with?
This is being discussed in another thread
Where's that at?
 
Joined
Oct 5, 2013
Messages
2 (0.00/day)
I remember when Intel used to have a TDP 50W then 65W then 125W to now 150W and above.
Is this the new redefining of performance & efficiency we should expect from Intel ? Yes the 12600K is cheaper but the extra power draw will out price AMD, not to mention the new motherboard requirement for every generation of Intel CPU going forward. And now that Intel is close to par with AMD by a few frames, they will demand top dollar like they used to. And then they will create a chip shortage so that they can gouge out the consumer like they did not long ago. For performance & efficiency AMD is still the one & they have further improvements months away.
 
Top