Is RX 9070 VRAM temperature regular value or hotspot?

[NSR]

You have 2 screens linked to your card?

Yeah, both DPs in use.

 

[Zach_01]

I'm not the guy you quoted but I also have a 240W 9070 and I get the same numbers on my memory temps.

1. Idle power consumption - 25W
2. Idle speed of Memory Cock - 900MHz
3. Idle speed of GPU Clock - 50MHz to 100 MHz

GPU is enjoying life at 40-45 degrees C including the hot spot.
Memory is hanging around at 60-65 degrees C.
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I thought so

That 909MHz keeps VRAM temp and idle TBP of the card high.
I had exactly the same thing with my 7900XTX
TBP was 25-30W
The only thing that worked is a fresh Win11 install.
Now VRAM drops to single speed digits and idle temp is improved.
TBP: 9-13W

 

[TSiAhmat]

I thought so

That 909MHz keeps VRAM temp and idle TBP of the card high.
I had exactly the same thing with my 7900XTX
TBP was 25-30W
The only thing that worked is a fresh Win11 install.
Now VRAM drops to single speed digits and idle temp is improved.
TBP: 9-13W

No 60 C° is normal for vram with no rpm at idle. My vram is also 60C° but the card only pulls 8 ~ 14 W. If rpm is around 500 vram goes down to 30 C° (at least on my card)

 

[NSR]

I thought so

That 909MHz keeps VRAM temp and idle TBP of the card high.
I had exactly the same thing with my 7900XTX
TBP was 25-30W
The only thing that worked is a fresh Win11 install.
Now VRAM drops to single speed digits and idle temp is improved.
TBP: 9-13W

I've just disabled my other monitor to test if anything changes. Idle numbers are actually drastically lower (not temps, just clocks and power) but if I do as much as move a muscle it now jumps to 2505MHz...In contrast, if I run with double monitors it peaks at 909MHz when regular browsing. Strange.

Single monitor vs dual monitors during browsing/typing.

 

[rusty caterpillar]

I thought so

That 909MHz keeps VRAM temp and idle TBP of the card high.
I had exactly the same thing with my 7900XTX
TBP was 25-30W
The only thing that worked is a fresh Win11 install.
Now VRAM drops to single speed digits and idle temp is improved.
TBP: 9-13W

No need windows fresh install , he needs to try the following:
If refresh rate for screen is 144 Hz he just need to create a new Display resolution at 142 Hz and use that, for many this worked on AMD 7000 series cards.

I've just disabled my other monitor to test if anything changes. Idle numbers are actually drastically lower (not temps, just clocks and power) but if I do as much as move a muscle it now jumps to 2505MHz...In contrast, if I run with double monitors it peaks at 909MHz when regular browsing. Strange.

Single monitor vs dual monitors during browsing/typing.
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Try this:
If refresh rate for screen is 144 Hz he just need to create a new Display resolution at 142 Hz and use that, for many this worked on AMD 7000 series cards.

Also worth changing the screen DP cables.

 

[TSiAhmat]

okay now I can't bring my card to idle under 20 W...

Did not change anything. Maybe it needs some time.

 

[NSR]

If refresh rate for screen is 144 Hz he just need to create a new Display resolution at 142 Hz and use that, for many this worked on AMD 7000 series cards.

They're both 165Hz. I set both to 160Hz through AMD custom resolution feature. This didn't seem to change much. Yet again, maybe I need to give it time too.

 

[rusty caterpillar]

They're both 165Hz. I set both to 160Hz through AMD custom resolution feature. This didn't seem to change much. Yet again, maybe I need to give it time too.

I think you need to do it in Windows Display settings.

 

[Zach_01]

No 60 C° is normal for vram with no rpm at idle. My vram is also 60C° but the card only pulls 8 ~ 14 W. If rpm is around 500 vram goes down to 30 C° (at least on my card)

No 60 C° is normal for vram with no rpm at idle. My vram is also 60C° but the card only pulls 8 ~ 14 W. If rpm is around 500 vram goes down to 30 C° (at least on my card)

45min idling
Zero RPM, 11W avg, 25MHz VRam avg, 22C room, minor air flow around the GPU card

40C VRam avg temp
Its not 9070 but 7900XTX



Previously I had 25-30W, 909MHz and everything else the same
60C VRam avg temp

No need windows fresh install , he needs to try the following:
If refresh rate for screen is 144 Hz he just need to create a new Display resolution at 142 Hz and use that, for many this worked on AMD 7000 series cards.


Try this:
If refresh rate for screen is 144 Hz he just need to create a new Display resolution at 142 Hz and use that, for many this worked on AMD 7000 series cards.

Also worth changing the screen DP cables.

I always used VRR, VariableRR from adrenalin.
Win settings were set to DynamicRR (desktop mode 60/120Hz)



Same settings with previous Win installation.
I also tried to setup a different RR but didnt help.

Only fresh Win installation did it. I had to though as I migrate from AM4 to AM5.

 

[AVATARAT]

45min idling
Zero RPM, 11W avg, 25MHz VRam avg, 22C room, minor air flow around the GPU card

40C VRam avg temp
Its not 9070 but 7900XTX

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Previously I had 25-30W, 909MHz and everything else the same
60C VRam avg temp


I always used VRR, VariableRR from adrenalin.
Win settings were set to DynamicRR (desktop mode 60/120Hz)

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Same settings with previous Win installation.
I also tried to setup a different RR but didnt help.

Only fresh Win installation did it. I had to though as I migrate from AM4 to AM5.

It can fix some things - it's like a Windows update, but it fixes a lot of things, it can't fix everything, but you can try it.

 

[TSiAhmat]

45min idling
Zero RPM, 11W avg, 25MHz VRam avg, 22C room, minor air flow around the GPU card

40C VRam avg temp
Its not 9070 but 7900XTX

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Previously I had 25-30W, 909MHz and everything else the same
60C VRam avg temp

Okay, can only talk about my card which has idle VRAM Temps at around 60 if the fan is off. (maybe I didn't idle long enough let me try that)

Also GPU-Z seems/maybe blocks the complete idle? Is that maybe a bug?

without GPU-Z idles at around 8 - 14 W with 40 ~ 60 MHz

with GPU-Z it idles at around 20 - 21 W with 909 MHz

 

[Zach_01]

Okay, can only talk about my card which has idle VRAM Temps at around 60 if the fan is off. (maybe I didn't idle long enough let me try that)

Also GPU-Z seems/maybe blocks the complete idle? Is that maybe a bug?

without GPU-Z idles at around 8 - 14 W with 40 ~ 60 MHz

with GPU-Z it idles at around 20 - 21 W with 909 MHz

Both GPU-Z and HWiNFO64 used to keep VRam at 150-909MHz so TBP was around 30~50W.
Now with the new installation of windows with any of them running and/or displaying on screen VRam can go <50MHz and TBP down to 10ish some times lower.

It can fix some things - it's like a Windows update, but it fixes a lot of things, it can't fix everything, but you can try it.
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To be honest, last time I used win recovery was 20+years ago.
From back then on wards I dont install Win frequently either. Only when I have to.
4 days ago I did it because of the new AM5 system. So far only the GPU is from previous system. I have some additional drives to install too.

 

[TSiAhmat]

Both GPU-Z and HWiNFO64 used to keep VRam at 150-909MHz so TBP was around 30~50W.
Now with the new installation of windows with any of them running and/or displaying on screen VRam can go <50MHz and TBP down to 10ish some times lower.

Huh interesting, something to look forward for (if I install Windows new on my device)

Waited now for a good while and:

Yep, was wrong it gets lower. I assume the airflow in my case is just bad & that is why the temps are basically stuck at 52 C°. (and nowhere near 40)

 

[biffzinker]

I wondered looking at the disassembled cards for review by TPU how much is it the fault related to construction of the coolers dumping heat from the GPU into the DRAM. Like the one with two metal slabs soldered to heatpipes going away from the GPU.

 

[AVATARAT]

At high resolution, temperatures are 2-4°C higher VRAM/GPU.

God of War at 3840x1620.

To be honest, last time I used win recovery was 20+years ago.
From back then on wards I dont install Win frequently either. Only when I have to.
4 days ago I did it because of the new AM5 system. So far only the GPU is from previous system. I have some additional drives to install too.

This is not recovery, it's like major update.

 

[Eugene0]

Температура до 95°C является абсолютно нормальной для работы центрального процессора и графического процессора, но если она превышает 98°C, это может стать проблемой.

stable 95c, yes

Я использую XFX RX 9070 XT Mercury OC и в более требовательных играх, таких как Dying Light 2 с полностью включенной трассировкой лучей, температура VRAM составляет 92°C, что необоснованно высоко для такой перегруженной карты с массивным кулером, который также касается модулей VRAM. Конечно, это не полный контакт, но даже при частичном, как на Mercury OC, она должна быть ниже.

Я слышал от кого-то, что AMD изменила отчет о температуре VRAM, чтобы теперь по умолчанию отображать горячую точку вместо обычной температуры. У кого-нибудь есть конкретная информация, подтверждающая это? Все, что я смог найти в сети, это сообщения о «невыпущенной карте AMD с очень высокой температурой VRAM» и «RX 9070 тоже имеет проблемы» на всех новостных сайтах и ничего больше. Если датчик температуры VRAM теперь действительно отображает горячую точку по умолчанию для VRAM, это объяснило бы все эти просочившиеся отчеты, а также объяснило бы, почему температура VRAM такая высокая даже на Mercury OC. Но я не знаю наверняка и не могу найти никаких надежных ресурсов для этого в сети. Любая надежная информация по этому вопросу была бы весьма признательна.

сoolers is not cooling very good a vram memory chips, because vram chips have a thermocouples and i don't know for what , it remove a cooling for radiator of videocard for vram chips

I'm running XFX RX 9070 XT Mercury OC and in more demanding games like Dying Light 2 with ray tracing fully on, VRAM temperature is 92°C which is unreasonably high for such an overbuild card with massive cooler that's also touching VRAM modules. Granted, it's not full contact, but even with partial like it is on Mercury OC, it should be lower.

I heard from someone that AMD changed VRAM temperature reporting to now be hotspot by default instead of regular temperature. Anyone has any concrete info to confirm that? All I can find online are reports of "unreleased AMD card with very high VRAM temperatures" and "RX 9070 having issues too" reports all over news sites and nothing else. If VRAM temperature sensor is now indeed reporting hotspot by default for VRAM, that would explain all those leaked reports and it would also explain why VRAM temperature is so high even on Mercury OC. But I don't know for sure and I can't find any reliable resources for it online. Any reliable info on this matter would be highly appreciated.

maximum workable temperature of vram version of GDDR6 is a 105c

 

[AusWolf]

Try undervolting the card until it is barely stable. Try again in 3 years. You will see the degradation (it will take more voltage to achieve a given clock speed).

Undervolting is not part of its normal and expected operation.

No need windows fresh install , he needs to try the following:
If refresh rate for screen is 144 Hz he just need to create a new Display resolution at 142 Hz and use that, for many this worked on AMD 7000 series cards.


Try this:
If refresh rate for screen is 144 Hz he just need to create a new Display resolution at 142 Hz and use that, for many this worked on AMD 7000 series cards.

Also worth changing the screen DP cables.

There shouldn't be any need for that. 144 Hz works fine with my 9070 XT. It idles at 9-10 W in Windows, and around 16-20 W in Linux.

 

[NSR]

I think you need to do it in Windows Display settings.

So unfortunately I have no idea which variable is responsible but now my idle numbers are what other people are reporting.

I bought a SATA HDD to backup some games so I took my GPU out to get to the SATA port. Also took the opportunity to check the health of my 12vhpwr (all good there). Literally nothing else has changed except I shut down my PC to connect the HDD and plugged everything back in.

Memory will still jump to 909MHz or 2505MHz when I stop idling but I assume that is as intended? It's just no longer staying there when nothing is happening.

 

[cinemaware]

I have 9070 XT (Gigabyte Gaming OC) and pretty high VRAM temps. I posted about it in this thread some time ago. I reported max 102C there while gaming, but this was before my new build in a bigger case with more fans. Now I had bit more time for testing and ...
-on default Adrenalin settings, in demanding games, my VRAM is still really hot - around 98C. The CPU (9800X3D) is about 50-70C and GPU 50-65C.
-when I tweaked the fan curve a bit yesterday, the VRAM temp dropped to around 82-88C. But the fan (~3500RPM) was rather loud. At 100%, the fan is unbearably loud.

Hoping that some more info emerged since my post-purchase report, I guess my question is: is it normal for default fan settings temp to be so high? Should I RMA this card? I still have about 9 days left from my initial 30 day grace period, so just wondering what to do...

 

[TSiAhmat]

I have 9070 XT (Gigabyte Gaming OC) and pretty high VRAM temps. I posted about it in this thread some time ago. I reported max 102C there while gaming, but this was before my new build in a bigger case with more fans. Now I had bit more time for testing and ...
-on default Adrenalin settings, in demanding games, my VRAM is still really hot - around 98C. The CPU (9800X3D) is about 50-70C and GPU 50-65C.
-when I tweaked the fan curve a bit yesterday, the VRAM temp dropped to around 82-88C. But the fan (~3500RPM) was rather loud. At 100%, the fan is unbearably loud.

Hoping that some more info emerged since my post-purchase report, I guess my question is: is it normal for default fan settings temp to be so high? Should I RMA this card? I still have about 9 days left from my initial 30 day grace period, so just wondering what to do...

That is quite toasty, maybe bad contact from the cooler... Did you over clock the card in anyway? Also did undervolting maybe help a little bit & how warm is the hotspot of the card?

 

[cinemaware]

That is quite toasty, maybe bad contact from the cooler... Did you over clock the card in anyway? Also did undervolting maybe help a little bit & how warm is the hotspot of the card?

Nah, I didn't do anything like overclocking, that fan tweak was my first foray into Adrenalin. The hotspot max was about 90C. Also, my ambient room temp is about 23-27C these days.

I've heard good things about undervolting, but this shouldn't be a necessary thing to do for an average user. I'd rather give the card back to the shop, see what they say.

I'm not even sure fan tweaking is something I'm expected to do on my own. The AMD issues a big red warning and something about warranty voidance before you touch any of these things in Custom in Adrenalin after all.

The problem is that I’ve seen a lot of users reporting borderline high temps as well (say, 80-88C kinda range), so not sure if this is normal or not, or am I just a bit over the line....

 

[Eugene0]

У меня довольно 9070 XT (Gigabyte Gaming OC) и высокая температура видеопамяти. Я писал об этом по этой теме некоторое время назад. Я сообщил о макс. 102C был во время игры, но это была моя новая сборка в большем корпусе с большим количеством вентиляторов. Теперь у меня было немного больше времени для тестирования и...
- при включении адреналина по умолчанию в требовательных играх моя видеопамять все еще очень горячая - около 98С. Центральный процессор (9800X3D) нагревается примерно до 50-70С, графический процессор - до 50-65С.
- Когда я вчера немного подправил кривую вентилятору, температура VRAM упала до 82-88С. Но вентилятор (~3500 об/мин) был довольно громким. На 100% вентилятор невыносимо громкий.

Надеюсь, что с момента моего отчета после покупки появилось больше информации, думаю, мой вопрос: нормально ли, что температура вентилятора по умолчанию такая высокая? Стоит ли мне вернуть эту карту? У меня еще около 9 дней осталось от моего первоначального 30-дневного льготного периода, так что просто интересно, что делать...

Hi there,
This is an English speaking forum. I have translated this one for you but had to delete your other posts because they were not in English.
Please try and use English (translate) next time. Thank you and welcome.

very high VRAM temperature I think you need to set the cooler settings not to 100%, activate a maximum of 70%, I think it will really help you, if not you need to go to the graphics card to the service center to replace the VRAM thermal pads on the VRAM into thinner ones in height
очень большая температура видеопамяти, я думаю, вам нужно установить настройки кулера не на 100%, активировать максимум 70%, я думаю, это действительно поможет вам, если нет, вам нужно обратиться к видеокарте в сервисный центр, чтобы заменить термопрокладки видеопамяти на видеопамяти into thinner ones in height

 

[TSiAhmat]

Nah, I didn't do anything like overclocking, that fan tweak was my first foray into Adrenalin. The hotspot max was about 90C. Also, my ambient room temp is about 23-27C these days.

I've heard good things about undervolting, but this shouldn't be a necessary thing to do for an average user. I'd rather give the card back to the shop, see what they say.

I'm not even sure fan tweaking is something I'm expected to do on my own. The AMD issues a big red warning and something about warranty voidance before you touch any of these things in Custom in Adrenalin after all.

The problem is that I’ve seen a lot of users reporting borderline high temps as well (say, 80-88C kinda range), so not sure if this is normal or not, or am I just a bit over the line....

your ambient is quite a bit higher than mine. But it shouldn't affect the vram, hotspot temps by that much.

The undervolting wouldn't help a lot with temps, maybe 1 ~ 2 C°.

It should technically be in spec (105 C° over longer time, 110 C° in short bursts) but I can't give you a definitive answer if it will be okay.
(I just assume the gigabyte model has an worse/less efficient cooler than the other cards. Sadly no review of that card on tpu for comparison)

 

[TechBuyingHavoc]

Undervolting is not part of its normal and expected operation.

I was mentioning undervolting as a test because you claimed that the card did not degrade in 3 years (clocks remained the same). Undervolt it and actually find out how much it degraded in 3 years. It is degrading (all silicon degrades) but the safety margin from the manufacturer is preventing you from seeing it....mostly.

 

[JustBenching]

I was mentioning undervolting as a test because you claimed that the card did not degrade in 3 years (clocks remained the same). Undervolt it and actually find out how much it degraded in 3 years. It is degrading (all silicon degrades) but the safety margin from the manufacturer is preventing you from seeing it....mostly.

Yeap, exactly. Was trying to explain it before but didn't manage and gave up