Low budget mb for intel 12/13 gen

[gasolin]

Have an Nzxt N7 Z590 and an i5 11600k with higher power limit form keeping it from throttling, it uses alot of power then stock but no throttling

I think i was intrigued but the low price of my mb and a 11400f (which also had to have power limit raised) that's why i don't have a 12 or 13gen intel cpu

But i could get although not much, better perfomance lower temps with a 12400f, i will try to sell what i have and i could get what i want without paying alot extra

For me to do that i need a budget mb for intel 12/13 gen with heatsinks for the vrm, good power delivery,alot of usb port on the i/o panel, 2 pci e slots and 2 m.2 slot with atleast 1 m.2 shield,heatsink + 4 fan headers and support for 3600mhz memory, i prefer atx

What would you recommend ?

 

[ir_cow]

What's your price range?

 

[Why_Me]

Have an Nzxt N7 Z590 and an i5 11600k with higher power limit form keeping it from throttling, it uses alot of power then stock but no throttling

I think i was intrigued but the low price of my mb and a 11400f (which also had to have power limit raised) that's why i don't have a 12 or 13gen intel cpu

But i could get although not much, better perfomance lower temps with a 12400f, i will try to sell what i have and i could get what i want without paying alot extra

For me to do that i need a budget mb for intel 12/13 gen with heatsinks for the vram, good power delivery,alot of usb port on the i/o panel, 2 pci e slots and 2 m.2 slot with atleast 1 m.2 shield,heatsink + 4 fan headers and support for 3600mhz memory, i prefer atx

What would you recommend ?

If you plan on running two M.2 SSD's then look at either a H670 or Z690 board due to the amount of PCIe lanes. If you can get by with a single M.2 SSD then either of these boards which include free shipping.

https://www.proshop.dk/Bundkort/MSI...tel-LGA1700-socket-DDR4-RAM-Micro-ATX/3173131

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B760M-A-WIFI-DDR4

https://www.proshop.dk/Bundkort/ASU...tel-LGA1700-socket-DDR4-RAM-Micro-ATX/3024291

https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/tuf-gaming/tuf-gaming-b660m-e-d4/

H670 board.
https://www.proshop.dk/Bundkort/ASU...670-Intel-LGA1700-socket-DDR4-RAM-ATX/3024295

TUF GAMING H670-PRO WIFI D4｜Motherboards｜ASUS Global

TUF Gaming series distills essential elements of the latest AMD and Intel® platforms, and combines them with game-ready features and proven durability. Engineered with military-grade components, an upgraded power solution and a comprehensive set of cooling options, this motherboard delivers...

www.asus.com

 

[gasolin]

If you plan on running two M.2 SSD's then look at either a H670 or Z690 board due to the amount of PCIe lanes. If you can get by with a single M.2 SSD then either of these boards which include free shipping.

https://www.proshop.dk/Bundkort/MSI...tel-LGA1700-socket-DDR4-RAM-Micro-ATX/3173131

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B760M-A-WIFI-DDR4

https://www.proshop.dk/Bundkort/ASU...tel-LGA1700-socket-DDR4-RAM-Micro-ATX/3024291

https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/tuf-gaming/tuf-gaming-b660m-e-d4/

H670 board.
https://www.proshop.dk/Bundkort/ASU...670-Intel-LGA1700-socket-DDR4-RAM-ATX/3024295

TUF GAMING H670-PRO WIFI D4｜Motherboards｜ASUS Global

TUF Gaming series distills essential elements of the latest AMD and Intel® platforms, and combines them with game-ready features and proven durability. Engineered with military-grade components, an upgraded power solution and a comprehensive set of cooling options, this motherboard delivers...

www.asus.com

I can use one of the pci e slot if i want to (temps)

100ish euros

Found this site and the MSI Pro B660M-A is out of stock every where

Best Budget Intel B660 Motherboards, VRM Thermal Test

Our first look at VRM thermal performance of entry-level Intel B660 motherboards. On hand we have models boards from Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, Asrock, Soyo and Maxsun. Pricing...

www.techspot.com

 

[pressing on]

I can use one of the pci e slot if i want to (temps)

100ish euros

Found this site and the MSI Pro B660M-A is out of stock every where

Best Budget Intel B660 Motherboards, VRM Thermal Test

Our first look at VRM thermal performance of entry-level Intel B660 motherboards. On hand we have models boards from Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, Asrock, Soyo and Maxsun. Pricing...

www.techspot.com

That site used an i9 12900K without power limits. Yes there are differences with that CPU but for a 12400/12400F they are hardly likely to matter. If your budget is €100 then just buy the nearest B660 board you can find to the price target that meets your specs and don't worry about VRM temps.

 

[gasolin]

They also test with a 12600k and 12700k with and without power limit

100 ish 110-115 is possible, it's just that i want to see if i can't find a budget mb that meet most of my demands, max i will be using is a new 12400f, used 12600k,13400(f) most cpu with a low power limit when adjusted so they don't throttle https://www.techpowerup.com/download/techpowerup-throttlestop/


There are no used 11700(f) (65 watt),12400(f),13400(f) for sale atm in my country

 

[P4-630]

If you want a budget MB with a beefy vrm, good heatsinks, lots of USB ports, and other things you want won't be a cheap budget motherboard new...

 

[gasolin]

Just a good power delivery and heatsinks so it's stable no matter how hot it is or if i use my cpu 10 or 100%

Buying 1 heatsink for my gaming ssd wouldn't be a problem (my ek heatsink don't seem to be that great) but 2 i could have gotten a better mb with heatsinks

I have a RaidSonic ICY BOX IB-PCI208-HS https://icybox.de/en/product.php?id=463 so i can use my ssd in a pci 3 slot (3.0 x4) it does wonders for my samsung ssd compared to an conventional ek heatsink in the top m.2 slot on my current mb, i have a compact usb c hub so i have enough ports (it's just not enough to give a usb harddrive power, it often disconnect)

I just need it to be stable with a 12400f and be able also to run stable if i upgarde to a 12600k or a 10 core 13400(f), size of the mb doesn't mater to much as long as there are a couple of pci e slot or 3 in total and the usually stuff

 

[P4-630]

GB Z690 Aorus Master, it's just not a budget board...
However it will be cheaper than many Z790 boards.

 

[Sithaer]

That site used an i9 12900K without power limits. Yes there are differences with that CPU but for a 12400/12400F they are hardly likely to matter. If your budget is €100 then just buy the nearest B660 board you can find to the price target that meets your specs and don't worry about VRM temps.

Yeah for a 12400/13400 its like whatever, especially if only under gaming load. My board also has a pretty bad VRM but since I mainly game on my PC and I have no plans on anything higher than a locked i5 I didn't care much. 'Tho in retrospect maybe I should have spend a bit more and pick up the B660 TuF mobo but oh well, current one also gets the job done anyway'

If you want a budget MB with a beefy vrm, good heatsinks, lots of USB ports, and other things you want won't be a cheap budget motherboard new...

Sadly this is also true, I've bought my B660 mobo in 2022 february and the prices hardly went down if at all and even this lowly mobo cost me ~150 $ or so.

 

[nomdeplume]

If you want a budget MB with a beefy vrm, good heatsinks, lots of USB ports, and other things you want won't be a cheap budget motherboard new...

I tried this with H370 and the tradeoff is middle of the road everything. No matter how good rest of the system is or how hard you attempt to make a non K processor into something nearing one.

GB Z690 Aorus Master, it's just not a budget board...
However it will be cheaper than many Z790 boards.

So yes, this is effectively the other answer. Budget Z boards really trim ports and quality features to the minimum though. This option looks better if you are going to replace your mobo in a few years regardless.

 

[tussinman]

If you want a budget MB with a beefy vrm, good heatsinks, lots of USB ports, and other things you want won't be a cheap budget motherboard new...

Agreed

They also test with a 12600k and 12700k with and without power limit

Which once again is pointless. If you're going with a entry budget board you're not eyeing overclock ready cpus that are clocked to the sky

The 12600k for example someone on a budget build or lower tier motherboard will simply just buy the 12600 non K which will give you like 97% of the performance at 30-40% less power thus not messing up the VRMs

I just need it to be stable with a 12400f and be able also to run stable if i upgarde to a 12600k or a 10 core 13400(f), size of the mb doesn't mater to much as long as there are a couple of pci e slot or 3 in total and the usually stuff

Tech powerups 12400F stress test was like almost half the power consumption as the 12600k so that shouldn't be an issue.

13400F is one of the most efficient CPUs out there as well so I don't ever see that being an issue (Gaming efficiency, single thread efficiency, and multi thread efficiency where all in the top 5 for it)

 

[gasolin]

I think i will buy an asus PRIME B660M-A D4 or PRIME B760M-A D4

The B760 has q led (power button flashes) other then that they look the same

They both have 2 pci e 4.0 m.2 slot one with one heatsink, 6 usb port on the i/o panel, no usb c for my usb hub, i can always get a cheap usb hub or use the usb c on the from (case) for my usb c hub, only 2 usb fan header where the one on the right side is next to the 24 pin power which to me looks a little misplaced, have to use a fan splitter

The 12600k for example someone on a budget build or lower tier motherboard will simply just buy the 12600 non K which will give you like 97% of the performance at 30-40% less power thus not messing up the VRMs

Slightly disagree, 12600 3.3ghz 4.8ghz 12600k 3.7ghz and 4.9ghz but you might forget one important think, the 12600 is a 6 core 12 thread cpu, a 12600k is a 10 core 16 thread cpu = longer time before the cpu isn't fast enough for what most people do and for gaming it can handle a gpu alot faster then a 12600 before it's out of breath, basically the power cores can be used for gaming and the e cores for what is running in the background

Any advantage getting the one or the other mb or just get the cheapest one ?

Tech powerups 12400F stress test was like almost half the power consumption as the 12600k so that shouldn't be an issue.

My 11600k has a high power limit stock, multi threaded is uses close to 100 watt more then a 12400f, stresstest almost 80 watt more, not to mention what the difference is when having turbo boost power max at 190 watt on my 11600k

 

[eidairaman1]

Biostar

 

[pressing on]

Any advantage getting the one or the other mb or just get the cheapest one ?

The B660 version of the board is on BIOS update number 12, several of which were to support the 13th gen (Raptor Lake) processors. There is no way of knowing what version you would be getting, it should not cause any issues but it might. The B760 has only had 3 BIOS versions to date and supports 12th and 13th gen out of the box. The Intel ME driver and firmware needs to be updated once you are in Windows, it is advisable to do this before updating to the latest BIOS.

 

[gasolin]

First step is taken to upgrade

Thermalright Intel LGA1700 12/13th Gen Anti-Bending Buckle for 20 euros

Don't know why thermalgrizzly has to cost 45 euros

Any vrm,power delivery differnce between the 2 asus mb's ? Is it mostly the Q led and chipset ?

 

[P4-630]

Don't know why thermalgrizzly has to cost 45 euros

It doesn't have to...
Get the extreme:

Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme - 2G kopen bij HighFlow.nl

Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme - 2G 0753677507241 TG-KE-002-R 13076 kopen bij HighFlow.nl. Voor iedere gamer een gewenst model. HighFlow levert alles voor waterkoeling. ✅ Gratis verzending va €150 ✅ Altijd Euroknallers

www.highflow.nl

 

[Regeneration]

MSI B760 or Z790

 

[gasolin]

It doesn't have to...
Get the extreme:

Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme - 2G kopen bij HighFlow.nl

Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme - 2G 0753677507241 TG-KE-002-R 13076 kopen bij HighFlow.nl. Voor iedere gamer een gewenst model. HighFlow levert alles voor waterkoeling. ✅ Gratis verzending va €150 ✅ Altijd Euroknallers

www.highflow.nl

The Anti-Bending Buckle for intel 12/13 gen

MSI B760 or Z790

Why ? im on a low budget, despite that im considering getting the 13400f

 

[P4-630]

The Anti-Bending Buckle for intel 12/13 gen

Ok.

Anyway, if you get the thermal grizzly paste as well, get the extreme then.

All the features you want on a new motherboard cannot be had at a low budget new.

GL.

 

[gasolin]

Ok.

Anyway, if you get the thermal grizzly paste as well, get the extreme then.

All the features you want on a new motherboard cannot be had at a low budget new.

GL.

NO it's just looks like it's included,which makes it a better deal then the thermal grizzly buckle

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Thermal-Grizzly-Contact-frame-Intel/dp/B09YYQBXQY/ref=sr_1_7?crid=1JLLM5M494HJV&keywords=Thermalright+CPU+Contact+Frame+for+LGA+1700&qid=1687339107&sprefix=thermalright+cpu+contact+frame+for+lga+1700%2Caps%2C83&sr=8-7

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Thermalright-Intel-LGA1700-Anti-Bending-Buckle/dp/B0BHMT7BPF/ref=sr_1_5?crid=1JLLM5M494HJV&keywords=Thermalright+CPU+Contact+Frame+for+LGA+1700&qid=1687339107&sprefix=thermalright+cpu+contact+frame+for+lga+1700%2Caps%2C83&sr=8-5

 

[pressing on]

The issue I have with the Thermal Grizzly Contact Frame is the cost. For a little more you could buy the Noctua NH-U12S that is a surprisingly capable CPU cooler. Like all Noctua CPU coolers it comes with a substantial backplate and the whole fitting clamps the CPU quite firmly. I am not convinced you would see much, if any difference with a contact frame.

 

[gasolin]

Have watched gamers nexus videos and it does make a little difference, for 20 euros i was inclined to buy it, not for 45-55 euros.

thermal gizzly's version is so expensive because it's developed and made in germany not outsourced

This video made me realize i don't have to pay over 40 euros for a cpu contact frame

 

[ir_cow]

100ish euros

If you are planning on using a 12400F. That CPU power draw is low enough for any motherboard really.

The question is will you ever upgrade to say a 13600K or whatever the 14th Gen version will be? If not, you shouldn't need to spend $$$ on a motherboard, but most of the entry-level ones don't have a lot of USB or M.2 spaces.

 

[gasolin]

If you are planning on using a 12400F. That CPU power draw is low enough for any motherboard really.

The question is will you ever upgrade to say a 13600K or whatever the 14th Gen version will be? If not, you shouldn't need to spend $$$ on a motherboard, but most of the entry-level ones don't have a lot of USB or M.2 spaces.

I think i will go for a 12400f to get a little more power and not having to pay 50% more for a 13400f for 10 fps more with only a rx 6700 xt 1440p, not much but stock it should be better then my 11600k that gets hotter (in theory compared to a 12400f),uses alot of power (190 watt power limit), if i where oc it to 4.8ghz on all core and raise power limits to what ever it needs to be long therm, i guess it would be 220-230 watt.

A 12400f would have the same or better better perfomance than a stock 11600k, it wouldn't use more then 125 watt ich or there about (65 watt tdp vs 125 watt tpd stock specs), i don't need pci e 5.0, but to get a 12600k,12700k,13400 (f),13500(f) if i ever get performance like a rx 6950 xt or rtx 4070 ti is a nice option

2x samung 970 evo plus,minimum 1 m.2 heatsink, 4 case fans and option for alot of usb, 100% stable aida 64 cpu,fpu and gpu load

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