Maps, science, data & statistics tracking of COVID-19

[Vayra86]

That's silly logic. It's not "luck of the draw." There are MANY preventitive measures that really put this in the publics hands.

No, the severity of the infection is entirely luck of the draw, and how it affects your specific body is also not in your hands. You can't influence that. You can only influence the road towards it.

 

[EarthDog]

That's silly logic. It's not "luck of the draw." There are MANY preventitive measures that really put this in the publics hands.

I believe he is talking about how severe you get it, not contracting it in the first place.

... which, who knows if it is luck. Do we know why the few who are young without pre-existing conditions get it so bad? Just statistical outliiers? What caused that in those who are not elderly or with pre-existing conditions?

 

[Ahhzz]

Right, but the law of big numbers does not work when you keep picking out the exceptions, and neither does it work for you in any possible way for living your life or dealing with danger. Its good to have a worst case scenario in the back of your head. Its a really bad idea to zoom in on it, repeatedly.

Stop that. For your own sake. The norm is the only thing you can really go on, because you just don't know how each individual has lived his life or how the virus responds to a specific person. But news papers will want those exceptions for a headline. I mean, an olympic athlete is not exactly a regular person is it. I'm not surprised an athlete that has for his entire life zoomed in on his physical and mental condition is quick to point out all that has changed. Its his lifestyle to do so and in every way we're looking at a unique physique.

The bigger threat to everyone's health when they get Corona is the hospitalization itself. Living a few weeks on an IC ward can induce severe problems, up to and including PTSS and loss of muscle mass. Many people need some time to recover and most never recover 100%, regardless of what they visited the IC for. The second real threat is the fact there simply won't be an IC ward to go to. And only after that should you start worrying about those severe symptoms and mind, its still true that there are ZERO deaths among young people. The youngest I believe is somewhere in his fifties. So again... context.

For something you label as a "worst case scenario" this is happening enough to all patients to warrant knowing it happens and not to minimize it. Sometimes a scare tactic (which, this isn't one to me... it is reality for some who contract it) can do wonders for shelter at home.

I think ED is right here, and HTC's reminder about the athlete accentuates the point. We have no real way of knowing how much impact this can have on someone, and the "someone" is the important part here. As a person, I or you, or whomever may be perfectly healthy, but the woman that used the shopping cart after you did has an autoimmune disorder, and so does her 3-year old. Taking the extra time to cautious with what you handle and how often you wash is important not just because you don't know how the virus will affect you, but also because of those that interact with your space while you're there and after you're gone. Emphasizing these stories of how bad it can get keeps it in the forefront of those that don't seemingly care because "It's under control" or "I'm healthy".

 

[Vayra86]

I think ED is right here, and HTC's reminder about the athlete accentuates the point. We have no real way of knowing how much impact this can have on someone, and the "someone" is the important part here. As a person, I or you, or whomever may be perfectly healthy, but the woman that used the shopping cart after you did has an autoimmune disorder, and so does her 3-year old. Taking the extra time to cautious with what you handle and how often you wash is important not just because you don't know how the virus will affect you, but also because of those that interact with your space while you're there and after you're gone. Emphasizing these stories of how bad it can get keeps it in the forefront of those that don't seemingly care because "It's under control" or "I'm healthy".

Oh but in that he is correct. I think that little disconnect happened because we are in a later stage of this crisis. We're already on practical lockdown for a few weeks now. The US is only just beginning. Minimizing risk... I've been shouting that since this topic existed.

 

[EarthDog]

Oh but in that he is correct. I think that little disconnect happened because we are in a later stage of this crisis. We're already on practical lockdown for a few weeks now. The US is only just beginning. Minimizing risk... I've been shouting that since this topic existed.

Where are you at? I know Mars isn't it.........

 

[Vayra86]

Where are you at? I know Mars isn't it.........

Netherlands.

 

[HTC]

Portugal's numbers have been updated: 2362 infected, with 30 deaths and 22 recoveries.

Netherlands.

Mars is located in the Netherlands: confirmed ...

 

[ne6togadno]

SARS-CoV-2 and the lessons we have to learn from it.

(SARS-2-CoV is the virus. COVID-19 is the disease.)

medium.com

 

[Vayra86]

Portugal's numbers have been updated: 2362 infected, with 30 deaths and 22 recoveries.



Mars is located in the Netherlands: confirmed ...

Yeah man, its an actual street name not too far from here Along with the rest of the solar system.

 

[rtwjunkie]

Louisiana now has 1,388 cases, and 46 deaths, with about 8,500 tests conducted. 925 cases are in the New Orleans metro area. Concentration of population, concentration of infection.

The Governor has asked for a major disaster declaration and Federal help as the state’s resources and supplies have become overwhelmed.

Louisiana Coronavirus | La Dept. of Health

The Louisiana Department of Health protects and promotes health and ensures access to medical, preventive and rehabilitative services for all citizens of the State of Louisiana.

ldh.la.gov

 

[lexluthermiester]

@EarthDog
I took the liberty of posting your earlier CDC link in the OP. Thank you for posting it.

 

[repman244]

Just saw Italy numbers...going up again sadly, 743 died
69176 total infected.

 

[biffzinker]

“This patient is a gentleman in his late 50s, who initially had a fever and a non-productive cough like many other people. Respiratory symptoms progressed quite rapidly, to the point where he did need to be intubated and put on the ventilator."

What you're seeing in the video, essentially the blue part is the more normal lung, but anything you're seeing that's yellow is lung that's being destroyed by the virus," said Mortman. "One of the big problems is it's really a one-two punch. So it starts with the initial insult from the virus, but then the body's way of trying to contain it is by creating inflammation, by trying to surround it in a sense. So what you're seeing in yellow is both viral infection as well as inflammation in the lungs. And it's that one-two punch, that's why far too many of these patients have trouble with their breathing or getting short of breath. And that's a symptom that can come on quite rapidly to the point where some of these patients require hospital admission, being put on a breathing tube, or being put on a ventilator."

 

[Drone]

The Tip of the Iceberg: Virologist David Ho (BS '74) Speaks About COVID-19

The scientist who helped successfully combat the HIV/AIDS epidemic explains the science behind the novel coronavirus and looks toward the future of the world affected by COVID-19.

www.caltech.edu

24 months..

 

[biffzinker]

Two more positive cases in Ketchikan.

At the current rate of spread, Ketchikan could have over 400 positive cases of COVID-19 by the end of next week," the statement reads in part. "If we all do our part, we can reduce that number dramatically and contain the spread.

The two new cases bring Alaska's confirmed case count to at least 38 as of late Tuesday morning.

UPDATE: Ketchikan confirms 3 new cases of COVID-19

The Ketchikan Emergency Operations Center announced three new confirmed cases of COVID-19 in Ketchikan, bringing the total to number of cases in Ketchikan to at least nine.

www.ktuu.com

 

[TheLostSwede]

Over 400k now... So we went from 200k to 300k in four days and the same from 300k to 400k+
It looked like Italy had peaked, but apparently far from it
US has taken the lead in the largest number of new cases...

Are there any good news?

 

[biffzinker]

I don't know about anyone else but I'm ready to get off where this ride is headed too.

 

[flmatter]

@biffzinker @HammerON if you guys need anything give me a holler. A drive north or a nice drive south does not bother me. I agree @biffzinker I am ready to get off this ride and back to norm

had to edit fingers were dumb

 

[biffzinker]

Someone here trying to get himself infected needs to reconsider that train of thought. I have a strong feeling it doesn't end well for him no matter how healthy or psychically fit he is. Not mentioning who it is.

Edit: I've been debating whether I should of said anything. I know what happens to me, it involves waking up in a hospital, and seeing myself on a ventilator along with some other stuff in a ICU room. When or what happens though I don't know.

Maybe I am crazy, but I feel pretty sane otherwise.

 

[HammerON]

@biffzinker @HammerON if you guys need anything give me a holler. A drive north or a nice drive south does not bother me. I agree @biffzinker I am ready to get off this ride and back to norm

had to edit fingers were dumb

We are doing well, but thank you!!!

 

[biffzinker]

@biffzinker @HammerON if you guys need anything give me a holler. A drive north or a nice drive south does not bother me. I agree @biffzinker I am ready to get off this ride and back to norm

had to edit fingers were dumb

I'm fine at the moment but thank you for the gesture.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Someone here trying to get himself infected needs to reconsider that train of thought.

Not trying, just not avoiding. Not one to live in fear. I say bring it on.

Not mentioning who it is.

No need, I'm not hiding my thoughts.

Are there any good news?

Actually, there is. The mortality numbers are not keeping pace with the infection rate. The next few weeks will of course tell more, but for now, the numbers are looking better.

 

[Caring1]

Not trying, just not avoiding. Not one to live in fear. I say bring it on.

Your type of ignorance and lack of understanding is what caused the exponential spread in the first place.
Are the elderly and at risk just casualties of war?
As long as your alright hey.

 

[phanbuey]

Your type of ignorance and lack of understanding is what caused the exponential spread in the first place.
Are the elderly and at risk just casualties of war?
As long as your alright hey.

You're assuming that his decision stems from ignorance and lack of understanding...

FastStats

FastStats is an official application from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC) National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) and puts access to topic-specific statistics at your fingertips.

www.cdc.gov

2017 causes of death:

• Heart disease: 647,457
• Cancer: 599,108
• Accidents (unintentional injuries): 169,936
• Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 160,201
• Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 146,383
• Alzheimer’s disease: 121,404
• Diabetes: 83,564
• Influenza and pneumonia: 55,672
• Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 50,633
• Intentional self-harm (suicide): 47,173

Most of the people, not all, that die from corona virus have a co-morbidity of either heart disease, chronic respiratory or diabetes...

If you follow your logic you shouldn't even leave your house or drive a car since you might cause an accident, which kills 170K people a year. Oh well... casualties in your need for groceries i guess? Or hey - call people names on the internet because suicide and self harm kills 47k a year.

I'm not arguing against social distancing or the need to stem the massive tidal wave of sick patients that are going to overwhelm the health system, but just demonstrating how extreme lines of thinking and mass fear mongering are also not helpful. South Korea dealt with the crisis effectively without mass quarantines in any major city, we can definitely do this and keep our sanity - we just need better tech, communication and way more testing - and some sort of coordinated process / plan from the leadership.

 

[authorized]

The logic is that if we didn't go to extreme measures, it's possible that this virus would run through a global population like wildfire and we would be counting the dead by millions. And, unlike non-preventable illnesses or accidents, there are things we can do to minimize the impact and we are doing it.
The west is not like SK, there are cultural and societal differences, afaik people there respect authority and follow the guidelines. Of course, better reaction by governments would still help, but I have a feeling that without all the "fearmongering" a lot of people in the western world would just brush off all the warnings and did whatever they wanted.