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The Flu is like 10% when you measure the same as with the corona virus.

In the flu, they measure the number of people they estimate, in the case of the U.S., that's 34,000,000 according to the CDC. With the corona virus, they measure the number of confirmed cases. For the confirmed cases of the flu in the U.S., that's ~ 220,000 and ~ 22,000 deaths, so that's 10%.

It's not just the death rate that is the problem, it's the number of people needing hospitalization - that is because the corona virus is much more contagious than the flu, you can't even compare the two.
And you are much more likely to get pneumonia from corona.

So let's assume you're a healthy person and you get the coronavirus and pneumonia - which will probably leave some damage to the lungs. So you successfully recover and (supposedly) you are now immune to it for some time (nobody knows if permanently).
If it's not permanent immunity and you get it again in the same severe form as before, but now you get it with damaged lungs...you can see where this is going.
Yes it's a complex scenario but since nobody knows how will all this unfold it's not impossible to happen.
That's why I'm trying to steer well away from getting it, despite my lower age. I want my lungs to be healthy.
 
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Yes, yesterday. It is not as common as other symptoms, so take it in conjuction with other symptoms.

Conjunctivitisly you mean.
 
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ehhh... that IS the condition name, but that isn't the proper word there. That looks to say exactly what it means.

...unless you are playing on words and I missed it.. ICWUTUDIDTHUR!

Take it conjunctivitisly with the other symptoms....oh jeez, I'm dying over here.
 
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Netherlands update: 175 died in the past 24 hours, 1039 total. 12595 infected.

While sad, we do seem to be stabilizing... apparently. One more month in zombieland at least...
 

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Anyone seen this in the national news about pink eye being a symptom related to a covid-19 infection in the eye/s?
The thing they mention in the vid is not pinkeye but he did have some problems with his eyes.
 
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The thing they mention in the vid is not pinkeye but he did have some problems with his eyes.

He says he hasnt been in contact with anyone in 2 weeks. Did he film those other videos weeks in advance or youtuber being a youtuber.
 
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80% of the coronavirus patients hospitalized in the ICU in the netherlands are obese. Overall population obesity rate in NL is ~14% (cbs.nl).

Similarly in UK, obesity is a risk factor for COVID19. Overall UK population obesity rate is 28% (UK Health Survey)
Have they proven causation?
One could also say 90% of elderly people that die have a cat or small dog, but that doesn't mean they are the cause of death.

As if diabetes or asthma weren't bad enough now these people are even more vulnerable
I'm stuffed if I get it, I tick all of the above in that video.
 
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As if diabetes or asthma weren't bad enough now these people are even more vulnerable

Great my mom is diabetic.

My whole family is going to die, and there goes my family business.

Well, let's hope not... Maybe if I keep playing Kerbal Space Program my problems will go away...
 

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Have they proven causation?
One could also say 90% of elderly people that die have a cat or small dog, but that doesn't mean they are the cause of death.
Well, it makes sense. All that fat (especially a big gut) pushes against the diaphragm which drastically reduces ventilator effectiveness. If ventilator can't keep you alive, well, you're dead.

Huh, actually there's a paradox...
In particular, acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS) in obese patients, in whom diaphragmatic function is challenging, has a lower mortality risk when compared with non‐obese patients [10, 11].
Obese patients admitted to the ICU are at risk of atelectasis, which is associated with pulmonary complications.
In patients with ARDS, prone position is a safe procedure which permits respiratory mechanic improvements and oxygenation.
NL and UK not putting obese patients on their belly?

Oh. Not many beds support that... In fact, I think only operating room tables are set up for that... Most definitely not enough to go around.
 
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I'm obese...

Great, the facts have killed my entire family line...

Screw this.

*goes back to playing Kerbal"
 
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NL and UK not putting obese patients on their belly?

Oh. Not many beds support that... In fact, I think only operating room tables are set up for that... Most definitely not enough to go around.

Maybe we can use these massage beds. I bet enough of those are laying around. I can't quite figure out why there are two holes though.


Well, let's hope not... Maybe if I keep playing Kerbal Space Program my problems will go away...

Are they really problems if you don't pay attention to them.
 

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Maybe we can use these massage beds. I bet enough of those are laying around. I can't quite figure out why there are two holes though.

Not sure if the hole is big enough for all the equipment to fit through.

The crotch hole is so that if they're pressing in the pelvis area, dude's junk has somewhere to go lest there be...damage or discomfort...from the force applied.


I tried finding ICU beds equipped for belly intubation and I'm not finding anything. I think it's only operating rooms.

I think I finally found an example:

See the two panels side by side? they slide out giving room for anesthesiologist to do everything. If they have to flip the patient over, they can slide the tubes out of that canyon without removing them.
 
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Maybe we can use these massage beds. I bet enough of those are laying around. I can't quite figure out why there are two holes though.


Oh geez, that crotch hole could also be used as a peep hole :fear:
 
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The thing they mention in the vid is not pinkeye but he did have some problems with his eyes.

Wow man, cringe in full effect over here. I hope I come out of it.
 
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One could also say 90% of elderly people that die have a cat or small dog

Well, if they take the dog out for walks often enough, I doubt they'll be part of the statistic :)

I think part of what we're seeing here is just that obesity is already a major cause of injury and death, or at least contributor to it. If you have chronic weaknesses of whatever kind in your organs, most notably those related to the lungs and breathing, COVID-19 seems to be your nemesis.
 
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White House briefing a few hours ago said that their death projection without any mitigation measures would've been between 1.5 and 2.2 million and between 100 and 240k with mitigation measures. They also have a projection of a peak of 2.214 daily deaths by April 15th with mitigation measures. Pretty rough numbers. Youtube livestream for those interested.
 
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The Central Asian country of Turkmenistan claims it has no coronavirus cases. But if you happen to utter the word "coronavirus" while waiting, say, for the bus in the white-marbled capital Ashgabat, there's a good chance you'll be arrested.

That's because the Turkmen government, run since 2006 by the flamboyant dentist-rapper strongman Gurbanguly Berdymukhamedov, has reportedly banned the word, according to Paris-based Reporters Without Borders (RSF).

Citing reports from Chronicles of Turkmenistan, which RSF describes as a rare independent media outlet in this notoriously secretive and restrictive country, the press freedom organization says Berdymukhamedov's government has forbidden state-controlled media from writing or uttering the word and has ordered its removal from health brochures distributed at hospitals, schools and workplaces.

Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty correspondents in Ashgabat report that plainclothes police officers are also arresting people who wear face masks or discuss the pandemic in public.

"This denial of information not only endangers the Turkmen citizens most at risk, but also reinforces the authoritarianism imposed by President Gurbanguly Berdymukhamedov," Jeanne Cavelier, the head of Reporters Without Borders' Eastern Europe and Central Asia desk, said in a statement. "We urge the international community to react and to take him to task for his systematic human rights violations."


Turkmenistan's neighbor to the south, Iran, is one of the countries worst hit by the coronavirus. Other neighboring countries in Central Asia have hundreds of confirmed cases.

Turkmenistan is ranked last in RSF's World Press Freedom Index. It's a place where speaking out is punished and where the government frequently shuts down the country for no reason, says Alexander A. Cooley, director of the Harriman Institute at Columbia University and an expert on Central Asian politics.

"Banning the term 'coronavirus' might seem to us obscene and extreme," Cooley says. "But in reality, when the state controls all of the media and all of the digital nodes coming in and out, it's not that outrageous. My sense is that they'll try and keep [the pandemic] under wraps as long as they can."

Cooley says the government likely anticipates a big post-pandemic economic collapse in a country highly reliant on the sale of natural gas to China.

"That probably spurred the government on to this new kind of more denialist type of posture," he says.

Berdymukhamedov doesn't want to look weak, he says, because he "portrays himself very much as a superman of all trades, the one in charge, the one to be revered and listened to."



 
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I think its worth emphasizing that he is a flamboyant dentist-rapper strongman, so he knows how to handle this crisis.
:roll:
 
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I think its worth emphasizing that he is a flamboyant dentist-rapper strongman, so he knows how to handle this crisis.
:roll:

Imagine him being a flamboyant rapper while pulling teeth! I can totally see it :D
 
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Well, let's hope not... Maybe if I keep playing Kerbal Space Program my problems will go away...

That's how I deal with everything.
 
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