Microsoft's Creator's Update

Intervention · Apr 8, 2017

I installed this "creators update" and now my system processes doubled from around 72 to 117. Not only that, but right after installing it the first time, I restarted my computer and it would not boot.

I did a fresh install of the OS with the new update included from the Microsoft website and I manually searched for updates right after install. I found one which focuses on "quality" and this made my computer more stable, though the processes are still pretty high and I have only a few programs running on startup, like steam.

Switching between tabs while using Edge is a bit sluggish also. Not as snappy as before. I assume Microsoft will release updates to fix these few bugs. Anyone else experiencing issues?

MrGenius · Apr 8, 2017

Harry Palms said:
Anyone else experiencing issues?

Yes. It takes forever to boot now. And everything else seems quite a bit more sluggish too. ReadyBoost is also completely broken. And it doesn't appear to be fixable. I've tried doing what it says to do and I still can't get it to work.

So I open Services as administrator and try to turn on Sysmain, a.k.a. start Superfetch, and it refuses.

The registry says it's already started and set to value 3(enable prefetching of everything). Which it obviously isn't.

I've ran sfc and chkdsk with no success there either. So I'm getting ready to do full-on a repair with an iso. Unless anybody has a better idea. I'd love to hear it if you do.

EDIT: Here's my other post regarding these issues. https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/...lable-for-download.232159/page-2#post-3634896

jboydgolfer · Apr 8, 2017

Yeah I installed this creators update last year on my insider pc, it caused me to roll back to win7 for a while cuz i got so aggrivated. :rolleyes:

There are some recovery options in win10 settings, have u tried rolling back ?,

P4-630 · Apr 8, 2017

Windows 10 update.... Once again....

Derek12 · Apr 8, 2017

Harry Palms said:
I installed this "creators update" and now my system processes doubled from around 72 to 117. Not only that, but right after installing it the first time, I restarted my computer and it would not boot.

I did a fresh install of the OS with the new update included from the Microsoft website and I manually searched for updates right after install. I found one which focuses on "quality" and this made my computer more stable, though the processes are still pretty high and I have only a few programs running on startup, like steam.

Switching between tabs while using Edge is a bit sluggish also. Not as snappy as before. I assume Microsoft will release updates to fix these few bugs. Anyone else experiencing issues?

Did you wait for the update to "settle down"

I am not having any issues on my desktop and laptop, it's even faster on those computers

Only my netbook has gotten a bit more sluggish with UWP apps.

I don't know if I have more or less processes as I didn't compared them

Colda99 · Apr 23, 2017

MrGenius said:
Yes. It takes forever to boot now. And everything else seems quite a bit more sluggish too. ReadyBoost is also completely broken. And it doesn't appear to be fixable. I've tried doing what it says to do and I still can't get it to work.

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So I open Services as administrator and try to turn on Sysmain, a.k.a. start Superfetch, and it refuses.

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The registry says it's already started and set to value 3(enable prefetching of everything). Which it obviously isn't.

You are not the only one. I updated 5 computers to Windows 10 1703 last week. Before the update Superfetch was running perfectly. After the update I had the exact same issue with Superfetch as you did. I have not found a workaroud for this. Rolling back to 1607 everthing is fine again. Back to 1703 and I am not able to start Superfetch anymore. I always the message "request is not supported" "error 50".

But I found the solution in a spanish Microsoft board https://answers.microsoft.com/es-es...o-inicia/4a8a3731-c1c2-48d7-ab74-e0b2e8c7e52c. It worked for me.

Try to activate your pagefile. After that I was able to start Superfetch again.

MrGenius · Apr 23, 2017

Colda99 said:
But I found the solution in a spanish Microsoft board https://answers.microsoft.com/es-es...o-inicia/4a8a3731-c1c2-48d7-ab74-e0b2e8c7e52c. It worked for me.

Try to activate your pagefile. After that I was able to start Superfetch again.

That worked for me too. Thanks for the tip!

EDIT: It made a HUGE difference in the overall quickness of my system. MUCH quicker now. All except for boot times. Which are still horrendously slow. Oh well. You can't win 'em all. :ohwell:

Crap Daddy · Apr 23, 2017

It seems that the update is not forced upon us. Can I just ignore it for a year?

R-T-B · Apr 24, 2017

Crap Daddy said:
It seems that the update is not forced upon us. Can I just ignore it for a year?

Provided you don't need any future gpu-driver updates (they will be wddm 2.2), yes.

rtwjunkie · Apr 24, 2017

R-T-B said:
Provided you don't need any future gpu-driver updates (they will be wddm 2.2), yes.

Actually 6 and a half months is the maximum I have been able to defer these so-called feature updates. And that's only with the Pro version. Has it changed?

Divide Overflow · Apr 24, 2017

I'm still waiting for a patch that identifies my programs correctly instead of trying to call them "aps". :banghead:

R-T-B · Apr 24, 2017

rtwjunkie said:
Actually 6 and a half months is the maximum I have been able to defer these so-called feature updates. And that's only with the Pro version. Has it changed?

No, but I'm assuming you would have disabled automatic updates in this instance, presumably using a thirdparty update client.

rtwjunkie · Apr 24, 2017

R-T-B said:
No, but I'm assuming you would have disabled automatic updates in this instance, presumably using a thirdparty update client.

True, you got me there...third party FTW!

Edit:Hmmm, disregard all, since that 6 months was when I determined that Anniversary should have been fixed, and decided to stop deferring. I guess I could have waited longer.

Frick · Apr 24, 2017

No problems for me, whatsoever. I did a fresh install two weeks before it hit though.

qubit · Apr 24, 2017

I've installed it and hardly noticed the difference. Logon screen looks a bit different (grey) and the snipping tool has been upgraded. I'd have to go specifically looking to see what's changed.

Ferrum Master · Apr 24, 2017

Game mode. Split privacy settings. Secuirity center upgrade, game mode, spatial sound, ReFS, cortana perks.

RejZoR · Apr 24, 2017

Biggest change is the security center and Windows Defender imo. You get quite some useful system health info in it and Windows Defender got quite a performance boost. It's not a laggy sluggish garbage anymore. It's in fact pretty decent now. Detection got improved a bit recently as well, still not top end, but getting there. I wish their proactive capabilities were more up to date, especially since it's their OS, they can do whatever they want to monitor behavior where 3rd party companies have to rely on API hooks...

erixx · Apr 24, 2017

Apart from all the abovementioned, I appreciate that now my HDD's go into sleep more often. Without having set this before or after Creators.

jboydgolfer · Apr 24, 2017

erixx said:
Apart from all the abovementioned, I appreciate that now my HDD's go into sleep more often. Without having set this before or after Creators.

Yeah they definitely did some work on the power saving mode. I think it actually asked me "would you like to save more power "or something. And it's well implemented too, it puts the monitor to sleep and PC to sleep and doesn't wake up on his own like it has for years.to be honest and fair, I would have to say that I'm actually dare I say happy with my operating system right now. 8/10 bananas

Tsukiyomi91 · Apr 24, 2017

Still on Anniversary Update for now. Might move to Creators Update for tweaking & disabling annoying features.

erixx · Apr 24, 2017

Ah, and then we have that new option in Advanced Energy Profile settings (my free translation from a non English OS interface

where you can set the Maximum processor speed in Mhz. I have mine at 4400 Mhz :-D

Melvis · Apr 24, 2017

Welcome to W10, the OS that breaks more then any other MS OS

Crap Daddy · Apr 24, 2017

erixx said:
Ah, and then we have that new option in Advanced Energy Profile settings (my free translation from a non English OS interface where you can set the Maximum processor speed in Mhz. I have mine at 4400 Mhz :-D

Question is, can you set it at 5500?

jboydgolfer · Apr 24, 2017

erixx said:
Ah, and then we have that new option in Advanced Energy Profile settings (my free translation from a non English OS interface where you can set the Maximum processor speed in Mhz. I have mine at 4400 Mhz :-D

Really!? I did not know that. I'm going to have to go through and check all the different settings.

I wonder if under sounds they still spell the word mountain Like this "montain"

R-T-B · Apr 24, 2017

Melvis said:
Welcome to W10, the OS that breaks more then any other MS OS

You must've not read the thread in it's entirety, and just came here to troll. Be honest.

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Microsoft's Creator's Update

Intervention

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Derek12

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MrGenius

Crap Daddy

R-T-B

rtwjunkie

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Divide Overflow

R-T-B

rtwjunkie

PC Gaming Enthusiast

Frick

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