Microsoft's Creator's Update

[erixx]

Question is, can you set it at 5500?

That would be a great selling point for Win10: BUILD IN OVERCLOCKING! (No need for 2nd grade motherboard software!)

Honestly I even do not fully understand how it works. We already had min and max performance options. Maybe this is related to 3rd gen. Intel Turbo Boost Max.

 

[Melvis]

You must've not read the thread in it's entirety, and just came here to troll. Be honest.

Nope not at all, just stating the obvious and the facts, thats been honest.

 

[cdawall]

Nope not at all, just stating the obvious and the facts, thats been honest.

I have seen many more broken machines with windows 7 than 10. 10 as a whole seems to fix itself rather well. I can tell you the PC repair market is hurting pretty bad because of 10.

 

[Melvis]

I have seen many more broken machines with windows 7 than 10. 10 as a whole seems to fix itself rather well. I can tell you the PC repair market is hurting pretty bad because of 10.

Thats because there is about 10X more W7 machines then W10. Just not my experience sadly, I get plenty of work from W10 major updates, its great.

 

[R-T-B]

Nope not at all, just stating the obvious and the facts, thats been honest.

The experience here and with myself does not correspond to your "facts," making them questionable at best.

 

[cdawall]

Thats because there is about 10X more W7 machines then W10. Just not my experience sadly, I get plenty of work from W10 major updates, its great.

I only do this daily. Windows 7 has way more issues.

 

[jboydgolfer]

You must've not read the thread in it's entirety, and just came here to troll. Be honest.

I'm guessing you're right since that comment is entirely out of place. Might as well of posted something about popscicles or raccoons with opposable thumb's.

 

[AsRock]

Windows 10 update.... Once again....

Yeah, it's the MS way HAHA, even on a pre made Dell system it managed to get it wrong. Does make me wounder how many people end up buying new systems due to MS's wank updates.

They removed Control Panel from the right click start too, so annoying.

 

[Melvis]

The experience here and with myself does not correspond to your "facts," making them questionable at best.

Doesnt have to be on here, if you have a computer and the internet and a browser then thats all you need to have when realising that it is indeed "fact"

I only do this daily. Windows 7 has way more issues.

I also do this daily and Windows 10 has way more issues, always getting people wanting to go back to 7 or even XP lol

 

[R-T-B]

Doesnt have to be on here, if you have a computer and the internet and a browser then thats all you need to have when realising that it is indeed "fact"

The fact that I'm posting here just disproved your second "Factoid."

Windows 10's main issue (other than it's privacy issues, if you'll recall your not exactly arguing with a 10 apologist) is it constantly does core updates which are essentially OS upgrades. You upgrade an OS 4 times a year, things sometimes get messy. The OS itself is reasonably solid however.

 

[MrGenius]

Well...I managed to fix the other major issue I've been having since this update. That being the super slow boot times. I tried enabling fast boot and MSI fast boot and they actually work now. They never did anything before(so I left them disabled). Now they both speed up my boot times to as fast, or nearly, as they were before. Seemingly at least(though I never timed them before now). And now I can finally see the difference between the 2 fast boot modes too. MSI fast boot is consistently slower than regular fast boot(by ~10 seconds).

 

[Melvis]

The fact that I'm posting here just disproved your second "Factoid."

Windows 10's main issue (other than it's privacy issues, if you'll recall your not exactly arguing with a 10 apologist) is it constantly does core updates which are essentially OS upgrades. You upgrade an OS 4 times a year, things sometimes get messy. The OS itself is reasonably solid however.

The fact that I have to post here to correct you again makes it fact

and you just totally agreed with me with that last statement!

Honestly W10 ran ok for the most part before the Anniversary update, sorry not update, but reinstall of my OS. Ever since that "update" its been a right pain in the butt for alot of my clients and myself.

Do it right the first time MS or not at all far as im concerned. If you still cant get it right after what? almost 3 yrs then you need to go back and look at WHY this is and direct your resources to fixing that problem. I got clients PC's running W7 and never had any type of service or clean or anything 6-7yrs down the road, good luck getting even a yr out of W10 before that happens, its silly.

There is a reason why W7 is used almost 5 times more then W10, its not because W7 is good, its because W10 has to many issues/hassels that people do not want to deal with and in which then translates into costing the owner of that computer money to get fixed or repaired and its mostly couse of MS them selves, not the user, they dont have a choice in the matter, it just happens! then flop, the PC wont boot or programs stopped working or whatever the case may be, people DONT want that, they want a simple OS that just fecking works!

Anyway I can go on forever but I wont. Time to build a PC!

 

[cdawall]

Windows 7 is used more because Windows 10 still violates hipa and it is expensive to replace shit c2d machines in every retail store on earth.

I have a room full of techs rolling their eyes and laughing that people really think users get more longevity out of 7. Hell half the users I see can't even get the updates to work with 7. We have an entire how to thread for unfucking that situation. There is a solid reason why people stick with 7, just like they stuck with xp. However life moves on and 10 works absolutely perfect for more people than it doesn't.

Also remember if your argument is 7 is more popular, you are wrong. More people use Android or ios than anything else on earth. Android phones don't even live for a year for many many people. So if stability is ever your argument... Well, people don't care.

 

[Melvis]

Windows 7 is used more because Windows 10 still violates hipa and it is expensive to replace shit c2d machines in every retail store on earth.

I have a room full of techs rolling their eyes and laughing that people really think users get more longevity out of 7. Hell half the users I see can't even get the updates to work with 7. We have an entire how to thread for unfucking that situation. There is a solid reason why people stick with 7, just like they stuck with xp. However life moves on and 10 works absolutely perfect for more people than it doesn't.

Also remember if your argument is 7 is more popular, you are wrong. More people use Android or ios than anything else on earth. Android phones don't even live for a year for many many people. So if stability is ever your argument... Well, people don't care.

See solaris17 to fix your W7 update problem, been sorted ages ago, so its no issue anymore.

And no im not wrong, We are talking about Windows, not Andriod or iOS, there phone/tablet OS's not desktop, keep on track

 

[cdawall]

See solaris17 to fix your W7 update problem, been sorted ages ago, so its no issue anymore.

And no im not wrong, We are talking about Windows, not Andriod or iOS, there phone/tablet OS's not desktop, keep on track

Right so go see a guy on a forum to fix updates on Windows, because grandma the end user is going to do that.

As for current stats 40% of all pc users are Windows 7 27.7% Windows 10. For an OS released less than 3 years ago we are saying a much faster adoption rate than 8, 8.1, Vista and 7 for that matter.

Fact of the matter is 7 has already lost huge amounts of support from m$, this will only continue. That os will be edged out as m$ blocks all new cpus from usage and dx12 spreads. This has happened before and the same people who argued their love for xp moved on. Guess what xp sucked, 7 sucked and 10 sucks. As it stands statistically we have seen a sharp drop off in traffic in shops across the US to the tune of 20-30% year of year. That is no mistake for the vast majority of users 10 is absolutely great.

 

[Frick]

The fact that I have to post here to correct you again makes it fact

and you just totally agreed with me with that last statement!

Honestly W10 ran ok for the most part before the Anniversary update, sorry not update, but reinstall of my OS. Ever since that "update" its been a right pain in the butt for alot of my clients and myself.

Do it right the first time MS or not at all far as im concerned. If you still cant get it right after what? almost 3 yrs then you need to go back and look at WHY this is and direct your resources to fixing that problem. I got clients PC's running W7 and never had any type of service or clean or anything 6-7yrs down the road, good luck getting even a yr out of W10 before that happens, its silly.

There is a reason why W7 is used almost 5 times more then W10, its not because W7 is good, its because W10 has to many issues/hassels that people do not want to deal with and in which then translates into costing the owner of that computer money to get fixed or repaired and its mostly couse of MS them selves, not the user, they dont have a choice in the matter, it just happens! then flop, the PC wont boot or programs stopped working or whatever the case may be, people DONT want that, they want a simple OS that just fecking works!

Anyway I can go on forever but I wont. Time to build a PC!

The anniversary update was kinda crappy and there has been some duds before and after that (like the GPU updated that effectively made an AMD APU laptop unusable and the audio thing), but the Creators update seems stable.

I mean I agree with the notion that MS replaced QA with consumers, but again ... So far this update's been good. Windows 10 on the whole has very few hassles and is in many ways much better than 7, it's just that people don't read popups so they don't understand what is happening. "Whaaaaaattttt OMFG what is this?" Did you get a messege? "I dunno." But there was a popup right? "Yeah but I just clicked it." What did you click? "I dunno, something. A button." Sigh. Or they yell out "What in the hells?" and ask what is happening while there is a messege on screen explaining what is happening. /rant

Yes, Win10 has issues but on the whole it is very stable. I mean you still have to treat it as an OS.


Using the term M$ should result in an instaban btw (@cdawall) . This isn't the 90's ffs.

 

[R-T-B]

The fact that I have to post here to correct you again makes it fact

and you just totally agreed with me with that last statement!

Neither of these statements are true (I'm unsure why you think your word is automatically fact).

I clean install every update and find it quite stable in that situation. No, this is not a usual use case, and yes I may even agree with you that it "breaks more" than many OS's in standard usage (which is upgrade repeatedly as designed). I still call 'em like I see 'em, and you were trolling it up pretty bad there as you didn't read the thread that was mostly praise before the random "breaks everything" comment.

 

[erixx]

hey, this thread is getting boring for us bysiders... or just funny for the laughs watching your mud-fest

 

[Easo]

Just FYI, system processes doubling does not mean they actually did that.
With 1703, if you have more than 8GB of RAM everything is not stuffed under svchost as before.

 

[TheMailMan78]

I got creators running on all my rigs without a single issue. I also now have faster boots and better FPS in most my games. I couldn't be happier. I think most of you guys "fixed" a lot of things that were not broken in your last OS and are now having issues from this update that assumes a normal running system.

Best thing you can do is install an OS and leave it the F@#K alone. Don't start dicking with deep settings like the page file because I got news for ya. MS knows their software better than you do.

 

[Steve-007UK]

Windows 10 has worked fine on my pc since day one and even with all these new updates it still works fine.

If so many ppl have so many issues with win 10 then buy a decent pc or learn how to use your pc!

 

[Halo3Addict]

Is there any way to get Windows to stop asking me to upgrade? I can't really tell if my third party program is working since Windows keeps asking me to update every few days. I can 'ignore' it but I'm afraid it's going to automatically update overnight.

 

[erixx]

upgrade from what, where? Win95? Use upgrade compatibility checker anyways.

 

[DRDNA]

upgrade from what, where? Win95?

according to his sig from Windows 10, my guess from Anniversary.

 

[jboydgolfer]

Is there any way to get Windows to stop asking me to upgrade? I can't really tell if my third party program is working since Windows keeps asking me to update every few days. I can 'ignore' it but I'm afraid it's going to automatically update overnight.

If you're speaking of windows seven remove the GWX.exe iirc, there's also a couple KB updates you can remove(kb3035583) which will halt the incessant nagging , again iirc.

Honestly if you're running windows seven ( which I do on 2/4 of my pc's), I found it easier to just disable Windows update. Problem solved