My Ryzen 7 3700X OC.

[freeagent]

They can.. once you get them up to speed they rip pretty good!

I really cant complain @ stock and no pbo..

 

[trickson]

I am starting to think that, that "boost" is nothing more than BS. If the CPU drops under load to 3.6GHz (Stock) what good is that in a game or rendering or even anything benchmarks reflect this.
For once you oc the Ryzen CPU ( OR push it to the max boost all the time) they just explode!
And also what is this about the Ryzen CPU needing A shit ton 1.45v and bounce up to a quick 4.7Ghz yet do nothing at all for benchmarks unless you can keep them at that speed?
This all just sucks ass now! It's like the life was sucked right out of my new Ryzen before I got a chance to have fun thank YOU so much.

 

[freeagent]

You gotta keep it cool. Under the heaviest of loads @ stock mine will still run 4300-4400.

 

[trickson]

You gotta keep it cool. Under the heaviest of loads @ stock mine will still run 4300-4400.

I do not see temps reaching anything near 70c heck the most I seen was 61c under the heaviest load I will ever give it OCCT linepack.
So how long is it going to take for my CPU to start to degrade at the voltages?
It's seems to be going strong not giving me any issues and it been months and I have yet to have any one of my Ryzen CPU's go through this and they are all over clocked!
My Ryzen 3 1300X has been at 3.6GHz (All Cores) from day 1!! Voltages Auto on all of them yet not ONE of ANY of my Ryzen systems are having ANY of the Issues any one of you are talking about!
Jesus Christ I HAVE 4 AMD systems Each one maxed out and blowing Intel away Hell even MY FX8300 would give anyone a run for the money it's been at 4.1GHz for 2 years now 1.45Vcore!!!

 

[freeagent]

I tried occt last month. I think it uses old Linpack binaries. Doesn’t get my CPU hot at all, 60 tops. Try Linpack extreme 1.15 available from TPU.

 

[trickson]

I tried occt last month. I think it uses old Linpack binaries. Doesn’t get my CPU hot at all, 60 tops. Try Linpack extreme 1.15 available from TPU.

I run the latest version of OCCT I assume that it still uses linepack or whatever the hell you nerds are calling shit these days.. LOL.

 

[Kapone33]

I do not see temps reaching anything near 70c heck the most I seen was 61c under the heaviest load I will ever give it OCCT linepack.
So how long is it going to take for my CPU to start to degrade at the voltages?
It's seems to be going strong not giving me any issues and it been months and I have yet to have any one of my Ryzen CPU's go through this and they are all over clocked!
My Ryzen 3 1300X has been at 3.8GHz from day 1!! Voltages 1.4 on all of them yet not ONE of ANY of my Ryzen systems are having ANY of the Issues any one of you are talking about!
Jesus Christ I HAVE 4 AMD systems Each one maxed out and blowing Intel away Hell even MY FX8300 would give anyone a run for the money it's been at 4.1GHz for 2 years now 1.45Vcore!!!

The FX 8300 could probably OC to 4.9or even 5 GHZ at that voltage. For me the key to not downgrading your CPU is the cooling solution. Having said that it is still a lottery to run a chip outside of it's rated specs for an extended period of time. As the nodes shrink heat dissipation and electromagnetic interference become deeper conundrums. I stated before that start up is probably the hardest your CPU will work and will run at 1.45+ volts but that is only for the 10 to 30 seconds it takes to load Windows. Even Gaming does not stress your CPU beyond 35 to 40% in most Games. If you do a ton of encoding, benchmarking and whatever else that stresses the CPU (Does anybody burn videos anymore) an extreme boost clock on a 7nm may degrade the CPU over time. The 5800X is actually a hotter CPU than the 3960X even though the 3960x has more cores. Actually it would seem the 5800X is the hottest of the 5000 series CPUs but they all have no problem hitting the 70s under load (with mid grade cooling).

 

[freeagent]

I run the latest version of OCCT I assume that it still uses linepack or whatever the hell you nerds are calling shit these days.. LOL.

I did too. Its shit. All good man, suit yourself..

Nothing wrong with being a nerd. Nerds like to learn. Cool guys don't.

 

[trickson]

The FX 8300 could probably OC to 4.9or even 5 GHZ at that voltage. For me the key to not downgrading your CPU is the cooling solution. Having said that it is still a lottery to run a chip outside of it's rated specs for an extended period of time. As the nodes shrink heat dissipation and electromagnetic interference become deeper conundrums. I stated before that start up is probably the hardest your CPU will work and will run at 1.45+ volts but that is only for the 10 to 30 seconds it takes to load Windows. Even Gaming does not stress your CPU beyond 35 to 40% in most Games. If you do a ton of encoding, benchmarking and whatever else that stresses the CPU (Does anybody burn videos anymore) an extreme boost clock on a 7nm may degrade the CPU over time. The 5800X is actually a hotter CPU than the 3960X even though the 3960x has more cores. Actually it would seem the 5800X is the hottest of the 5000 series CPUs but they all have no problem hitting the 70s under load (with mid grade cooling).

Exactly. I can get 5.0 GHz on the FX8300 but it gets to hot 64c with the Cooler master V8 cooler so I backed it down to 4.1Ghz as it's just an office system keeps files and prints shit.
I never use stock cooling if I OC and when I say OC I mean taking it the max boost level on all core all the time. Not going any higher than that as here is how I see it. AMD took the time to measure the max speed on all cores then set the CPU back to a level that cheep ass CPU cooler they offer can handle then call it a "Boost" that you can get but this "Boost" Doesn't do shit! If it did you would see it reflected in benchmarks and games PERIOD!
But soon as you take that "BOOST" and make it permanent then you see the real RAW POWER of the CPU. SO take the POS stock cooler and replace it with an after market one like I have and you see the cool!

I did too. Its shit. All good man, suit yourself..

Nothing wrong with being a nerd. Nerds like to learn. Cool guys don't.

I am using Nerds in a loving way here with ALL my respect as well!
If not for you NERDS I would have the best gamer EVER or the best games EVER YOU GUYS ARE THE FUCKING BEST I LOVE NERDS!

 

[Kapone33]

Exactly. I can get 5.0 GHz on the FX8300 but it gets to hot 64c with the Cooler master V8 cooler so I backed it down to 4.1Ghz as it's just an office system keeps files and prints shit.
I never use stock cooling if I OC and when I say OC I mean taking it the max boost level on all core all the time. Not going any higher than that as here is how I see it. AMD took the time to measure the max speed on all cores then set the CPU back to a level that cheep ass CPU cooler they offer can handle then call it a "Boost" that you can get but this "Boost" Doesn't do shit! If it did you would see it reflected in benchmarks and games PERIOD!
But soon as you take that "BOOST" and make it permanent then you see the real RAW POWER of the CPU. SO take the POS stock cooler and replace it with an after market one like I have and you see the cool!

My principle since my first Ryzen has always been 100 mhz below the max boost clock on all cores starting at 1.25 Volts. The 2600 was nice for low voltage OC to 4.2. The 3600 felt faster at the same clock but would do 4.4 and the 5600 is the best of the 6 core with a 4.7 GHZ OC on all cores at 1.300 volts. The cooler for these has been everything from a Deepcool 360 to a Aplhacool Eisbear 420 to a Cooler Master Nepton 280. I now have an Antec A400 but I had to lower the max speed to 4.6 as that air cooler struggles with 4.7.

 

[95Viper]

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[freeagent]

Exactly. I can get 5.0 GHz on the FX8300 but it gets to hot 64c with the Cooler master V8 cooler so I backed it down to 4.1Ghz as it's just an office system keeps files and prints shit.
I never use stock cooling if I OC and when I say OC I mean taking it the max boost level on all core all the time. Not going any higher than that as here is how I see it. AMD took the time to measure the max speed on all cores then set the CPU back to a level that cheep ass CPU cooler they offer can handle then call it a "Boost" that you can get but this "Boost" Doesn't do shit! If it did you would see it reflected in benchmarks and games PERIOD!
But soon as you take that "BOOST" and make it permanent then you see the real RAW POWER of the CPU. SO take the POS stock cooler and replace it with an after market one like I have and you see the cool!


I am using Nerds in a loving way here with ALL my respect as well!
If not for you NERDS I would have the best gamer EVER or the best games EVER YOU GUYS ARE THE FUCKING BEST I LOVE NERDS!

So, I ran my old version of Linpack Extreme v1.12, from when I was running Intel. Got my Intel insanely hot, brought my XT to 60.. So I was able to boost to 4400 running that version. I tried v1.14 @ stock and now my boost drops to 4150-4175 and CPU PPT power went to 112w on its own lol. Temps were approx 7c under what I would run it at for 4500 manual with my fans moving hella air in my cool basement. My system is all stock right now, mems at 1600 14-14-14-34 1.35v, with a manual tune on the timings. All stock, no PBO. Core vids were at 1.3v, so that for sure is safe.

 

[trickson]

So, I ran my old version of Linpack Extreme v1.12, from when I was running Intel. Got my Intel insanely hot, brought my XT to 60.. So I was able to boost to 4400 running that version. I tried v1.14 @ stock and now my boost drops to 4150-4175 and CPU PPT power went to 112w on its own lol. Temps were approx 7c under what I would run it at for 4500 manual with my fans moving hella air in my cool basement. My system is all stock right now, mems at 1600 14-14-14-34 1.35v, with a manual tune on the timings. All stock, no PBO. Core vids were at 1.3v, so that for sure is safe.

The one Ryzen that is my all time best CPU in terms of power is the R3 1300X it runs all core 3.6GHZ with get this 1.0Vcore it's bloody AMAZING! I have never seen the temps go above 55c EVER! It's what made me buy more Ryzen Chips and this R7 is making me want the R9! O man they are just so AMAZING!
4.4GHz 24/7 under normal operations never sees 40c NEVER!

P.S> Yeah I hope I did not hurt any ones feelings gezz I love talking I have no one else this COVI-19 shit has me a cancer FUCK rotting in a house on a couch (Not sure but I think it is going into my bones now they are hurting bad now) so I just want to put that out there sorry.

Oh and also Every one of the things that I have learned and been advised to do and try (I MEAN EVERYTHING for the 15+ years I have been on TPU) I have taken and USED! I always listen try and then go from there ALWAYS so Yes Toothless and YOU biffzinker even you have been listened to and I have tried what you have said....

 

[freeagent]

No worries here man.. this is the internet and I cant hear your voice so I have to use mine lol.. I might take something the wrong way, I might not..

Same goes for anyone else I'm sure..

I like my Ryzen too. Its my first AMD since 939. It's pretty sweet. My biggest peeve about it is the Intel Lan.. take 38s to initialize after the desktop loads from a cold boot or sleep. Grrrr. Asus support asked if my cable was plugged in and I wrote them off immediately. Other then that its awesome It doesn't overclock, and the gains you get from clocking the mem are not as rewarding as I remember on Intel, but its better than a poke in the eye with a dull stick. Do I regret not buying Intel? Maybe a little.. only because I haven't overclocked one, nor have I had the joy of trying to extinguish their heat. So I'm a little curious that way. I went with AM4 because of what people here said about them.. and even if it is a glorified Dell, its still ok..

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

take 38s to initialize

That's longer than connecting to 56K!

 

[Kapone33]

No worries here man.. this is the internet and I cant hear your voice so I have to use mine lol.. I might take something the wrong way, I might not..

Same goes for anyone else I'm sure..

I like my Ryzen too. Its my first AMD since 939. It's pretty sweet. My biggest peeve about it is the Intel Lan.. take 38s to initialize after the desktop loads from a cold boot or sleep. Grrrr. Asus support asked if my cable was plugged in and I wrote them off immediately. Other then that its awesome It doesn't overclock, and the gains you get from clocking the mem are not as rewarding as I remember on Intel, but its better than a poke in the eye with a dull stick. Do I regret not buying Intel? Maybe a little.. only because I haven't overclocked one, nor have I had the joy of trying to extinguish their heat. So I'm a little curious that way. I went with AM4 because of what people here said about them.. and even if it is a glorified Dell, its still ok..

WIFI 6 is your friend

 

[freeagent]

I mean c'mon.. Even with XP if you had cable and didn't disconnect you could get a virus before windows was done installing lol..

Not only that but when 10 is done installing there is the armory crate ready to go with a driver conveniently there to only let you connect to Asus server so you can get the "real" driver that pucks it up. Even Intel's driver is no good. Pretty lame if you ask me.. but I guess that's what I get for not buying the 400+ dollar board, what was I thinking



I have been playing around a little, and this may or may not be helpful to you but,

Since getting my system I have flashed the bios 3 times, each with a newer revision. I have not used the CPU at stock settings or with PBO since getting a mount for my cooler two flashes ago, and being brave enough to make the attempt. So with PBO enabled with Linpack I am now seeing a maintained frequency of 4275-4300. I have also noticed in light loads 3 of my cores are consistently hitting 4625, while maintaining averages of 4475-4625. Also no more stabs with 1.5v+ those have been good at 1.456. Temps are 5c better than when I was running 1 clock. Not sure if I can improve on that myself.. but I will just leave it. At least I have decent ram to play with With my old bios I was seeing about the same load frequency under heavy load, but most of the cores hung out around 4400-4450 with only one or two occasionally hitting 4600.

 

[trickson]

So I went into the BIOS I set the performance boost to level 3 (OC) and I have to agree it's just as fast and well cooler so I think I will let it be for now. Set everything to auto voltage wise I think the CPU can do the job better than I can.
It's not as fast as 4.4Ghz but it's not that much slower. When I mean this I am only going off that simple bench CPU-Z has and that is so subjective but it is in the ball park 56xx not the 58xx but meh it's not going to hurt me none besides the new case is NOT very cool compared to the other case, But this one looks so much sweeter and cooler!