Next Gen GPU's will be even more expensive

[HuLkY]

lol me looking at the market atm with top $500 ~ $650 + taxes to spend.

Im waiting on the 9070XT reviews, people say is going to be worse in performance than the 7900xt.
No hope on Nvidia bringing a 4070ti super performance lvl below $700
I think i will be pissed with these new gens

I am checking the trash beside my building daily for any of these wild findings at this level of prices

 

[Sir Beregond]

This is what I find fascinating. If the manufacturer/seller are trying to sell the inventory as soon as possible/before the next gen comes out (which should by every mean be a better price/perf), then shouldn't they decrease the prices instead of inflate based on the "scarcity"?

Not when you are Nvidia and hold an effective monopoly.

 

[sn2x]

I think it's wishful thinking to suggest that they will never catch up to them in RT.

I'm talking about the GPUs coming out this year.

AMD is at a 50+% disadvantage in heavy RT titles like Alan Wake and Cyber Punk with PT enabled (with GPUs of similar raster). It is wishful thinking to suggest they'd make up that 50+% gap + whatever improvements Nvidia made to 50-series... Could it happen? Sure. It just doesn't seem all that likely, is all I'm saying.

 

[igormp]

Not when you are Nvidia and hold an effective monopoly.

I don't think this is related to nvidia anymore given that they stopped fabbing the chips already, this is on the AIBs/resellers.

 

[AusWolf]

Amateurs LOL

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I was just gonna pinch in with Hungary, but you obviously win this one.

This is what I find fascinating. If the manufacturer/seller are trying to sell the inventory as soon as possible/before the next gen comes out (which should by every mean be a better price/perf), then shouldn't they decrease the prices instead of inflate based on the "scarcity"?

As long as the replacement model isn't out yet, there is a scarcity, so prices can inflate.

 

[Sir Beregond]

I don't think this is related to nvidia anymore given that they stopped fabbing the chips already, this is on the AIBs/resellers.

Agreed. More just speaking to why Nvidia doesn't bother doing general price cuts towards the end like they used to once upon a time.

 

[x4it3n]

Titans didn't always have the full die. 780 Ti had the full die before they then release the Titan Black for example.

OG Titan: GK110, 2688 cores, 6GB, released 2/21/13

GTX 780 Ti: GK110, 2880 cores, 3GB, released 11/7/13

Titan Black: GK110, 2880 cores, 6GB, release 2/18/14

This goes back to "Titan class" is an extremely loose term with a sliding scale of what it means generation to generation.

I always considered the 3090, 4090 a rebrand and pricehike of the 80 Ti tier first before I ever considered them Titans. The only thing I can say that makes them quasi able to occupy both product tiers now is the choice of drivers and the larger VRAM capacity, and continued use of the flagship die. But as we have seen Titans historically have not always used fully unlocked dies either.

They don't always get a full die but it all depends on yields and manufacturing cost but a TITAN is supposed to get a full die at some point!
TITAN (Cut-down) => TITAN Black (Full Die)
TITAN X (Cut-down)
TITAN Xp (Full Die)
TITAN V (Full Die)
TITAN RTX (Full Die)

 

[HuLkY]

They don't always get a full die but it all depends on yields and manufacturing cost but a TITAN is supposed to get a full die at some point!
TITAN (Cut-down) => TITAN Black (Full Die)
TITAN X (Cut-down)
TITAN Xp (Full Die)
TITAN RTX (Full Die)

I second that; Titan name means nothing if it's not a full chip @ full specs @ good frequency for core and memory.

Titan Xp was my last Titan to own, but due to lack of competition, nV isn't finding a good reason to release one, but they sell regular chips at Titan level, thanks to AMD.

 

[x4it3n]

I second that; Titan name means nothing if it's not a full chip @ full specs @ good frequency for core and memory.

Titan Xp was my last Titan to own, but due to lack of competition, nV isn't finding a good reason to release one, but they sell regular chips at Titan level, thanks to AMD.

Nvidia usually release TITAN GPUs when they have almost no competition, so we might see one with Blackwell... unless RDNA 5/UDNA is as good or too close from a 5090/TITAN

 

[HuLkY]

Nvidia usually release TITAN GPUs when they have almost no competition, so we might see one with Blackwell... unless RDNA 5/UDNA is as good or too close from a 5090/TITAN

But they didn't do so with 4000 series and had no competition...

 

[igormp]

Nvidia usually release TITAN GPUs when they have almost no competition, so we might see one with Blackwell... unless RDNA 5/UDNA is as good or too close from a 5090/TITAN

No reason to sell a so-called titan at 3~4k when you can sell a RTX 8000 Blackwell for $8k+

 

[bruhmoment01]

They don't always get a full die but it all depends on yields and manufacturing cost but a TITAN is supposed to get a full die at some point!
TITAN (Cut-down) => TITAN Black (Full Die)
TITAN X (Cut-down)
TITAN Xp (Full Die)
TITAN V (Full Die)
TITAN RTX (Full Die)

Titan V missing 1/4 of ROPs and memory bandwidth = full die

 

[AusWolf]

No reason to sell a so-called titan at 3~4k when you can sell a RTX 8000 Blackwell for $8k+

That's exactly the point in cancelling Titan and calling it x90 instead. A $1k Titan is a halo card that not many people can afford, but a $2k GeForce is just a regular GPU for common folks.

 

[Hankieroseman]

I've got $10,000+ in my Flight simulator. How much do you think I should spend for a 5090? Paid $2000 for the 4090 and I don't have to sell it but I could sell the 3090 but, I don't have to sell it either. They can collect dust until the grandson gets them. He could throw them in the trash after I'm gone. Don't worry. Be Happy.

 

[igormp]

Titan V missing 1/4 of ROPs and memory bandwidth = full die

Tbh, there was no product with the full V100 die.
Volta was also not a consumer product at all, it was the first generation of products with tensor cores.

FWIW, Titan V CEO edition had all of the rops tho

 

[bruhmoment01]

Tbh, there was no product with the full V100 die.
Volta was also not a consumer product at all, it was the first generation of products with tensor cores.

FWIW, Titan V CEO edition had all of the rops tho

Mhm yes all 20 of them did…

My point was that retail Titan V was a harvested die of a harvested die

 

[95Viper]

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