Nicehash Ad on TPU main site

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Yeah orange is questionably the worst color of them all lol

I did my part for the site to make some funds
I clicked the add a few times actually
Made an account and installed, did the evaluate hardware and it wasn't enough to make it worth wild so restored system images and done.

 

[sepheronx]

I dont care.

Yes, I mine. Yes I may be part of the problem sort of. But the matter of fact is, TPU has to pay bills. It is Wizards website, not mine so who am I to complain? I use the website thus I use the service it provides. If it requires him to obtain ads from anyone and anywhere, I cant say I care. Not like I click on them. If he wants Raid Shadow Legends, or some Kings Quest or whichever that has woman with big tracks of land bouncing around on the screen, so be it. I trust that he will not use explicit type of ads as it isn't family friendly. But nicehash? OK, so what?

I feel some people think they are more entitled than they really are.

 

[hat]

I don't really care, either. Gamer or miner, you can't get a new video card unless you have connections or you're a business (including a big mining operation "business"). We're all screwed, but it ain't Nicehash's fault.

I think the mining ad just makes people's blood boil when they're already pissed off about video cards, then they come to their favorite tech site and get slammed with a bright orange mining ad.

 

[Mussels]

I'm not pissed and frankly I kinda like when people are angry about not having new GPUs, and I also enjoy the fragmentation of the "gamers" moniker. You said gamers have the new cards, which mean gamers without them aren't actual gamers.

You can have a socio economic discussion here ("i saw the price hike and dealt with it" kinda indicates that people not willing/able to spend that money have themselves to blame, because they are not willing to "deal with it") if you like.

And you're making a profit on mining. Good for you. You're so clever, and a good person, maybe even the greatest.

thats one hell of a stretch, to take the opposite of what i said and decide i said it - and then judge me for it. Thats some serious gymnastics frink.

Gamers. own. graphics cards. its kind of a requirement of PC gaming.

Anything 1060 6GB and above or RX580 8GB and above can GPU mine with a profit these days on nicehash
So to avoid being quoted and having my words altered, i'll state things in a lot more words

If you are a PC gamer, you likely have a 6GB or larger GPU made in the last several years - and nicehash can pay you for the time when you're not gaming - or when you are gaming anyway, like i do.
Gamers already own these GPUs, for gaming. That means gamers mining has zero effect on stock levels of GPUs or high prices... because shit, WE ALREADY OWN THEM.

I overpaid for my GPU because i wanted it at the time prices were high... so you're damned right i'm going to take money from mining while its booming to offset that cost. At $20Au a day between all my systems (and about $3au electric costs) It'd be damn stupid for me to NOT take advantage of this to get some of my money back.

 

[hat]

thats one hell of a stretch, to take the opposite of what i said and decide i said it - and then judge me for it. Thats some serious gymnastics frink.

Gamers. own. graphics cards. its kind of a requirement of PC gaming.

Anything 1060 6GB and above or RX580 8GB and above can GPU mine with a profit these days on nicehash
So to avoid being quoted and having my words altered, i'll state things in a lot more words

If you are a PC gamer, you likely have a 6GB or larger GPU made in the last several years - and nicehash can pay you for the time when you're not gaming - or when you are gaming anyway, like i do.
Gamers already own these GPUs, for gaming. That means gamers mining has zero effect on stock levels of GPUs or high prices... because shit, WE ALREADY OWN THEM.

I overpaid for my GPU because i wanted it at the time prices were high... so you're damned right i'm going to take money from mining while its booming to offset that cost. At $20Au a day between all my systems (and about $3au electric costs) It'd be damn stupid for me to NOT take advantage of this to get some of my money back.

It's not always that cut and dry. During the last crypto boom, I had a GTX660Ti. I bought not one, but two GTX1070s, primarily for mining. I was still gaming on my 660Ti just fine. Sure, I may have upgraded my card eventually anyway, but I wouldn't have bought 2 if I wasn't mining. And I wouldn't be thinking about buying more next time it's feasible to.

Yes, I'm a gamer, and yes, I barely bought anything compared to big miners. But if every gamer was a miner like me with small aspirations to have "a few cards" running, as opposed to the one, or two if you're crazy and want SLI, that's a lot more cards being sold.

In short, saying "gamers have the cards anyway" doesn't paint the full picture. As a gamer, I'm motivated to buy more than I would because of mining.

 

[ThrashZone]

thats one hell of a stretch, to take the opposite of what i said and decide i said it - and then judge me for it. Thats some serious gymnastics frink.

Gamers. own. graphics cards. its kind of a requirement of PC gaming.

Anything 1060 6GB and above or RX580 8GB and above can GPU mine with a profit these days on nicehash
So to avoid being quoted and having my words altered, i'll state things in a lot more words

If you are a PC gamer, you likely have a 6GB or larger GPU made in the last several years - and nicehash can pay you for the time when you're not gaming - or when you are gaming anyway, like i do.
Gamers already own these GPUs, for gaming. That means gamers mining has zero effect on stock levels of GPUs or high prices... because shit, WE ALREADY OWN THEM.

I overpaid for my GPU because i wanted it at the time prices were high... so you're damned right i'm going to take money from mining while its booming to offset that cost. At $20Au a day between all my systems (and about $3au electric costs) It'd be damn stupid for me to NOT take advantage of this to get some of my money back.

Hi,
Your description of profit needs altering
It's 3.50 usd a day for 10900k 5.0 and 1080ti 2050 mhz no where near profitable to myself it's actually hilariously silly to mine if true and that's what nicehash came up with lol
Electric bill alone would likely exceed 3.50 usd for 24 hours of mining cpu and gpu.

 

[hat]

Hi,
Your description of profit needs altering
It's 3.50 usd a day for 10900k 5.0 and 1080ti 2050 mhz no where near profitable to myself it's actually hilariously silly to mine if true and that's what nicehash came up with lol
Electric bill alone would likely exceed 3.50 usd for 24 hours of mining cpu and gpu.

Nobody mines on CPU, that's just silly. Not profitable at all. And if you're a miner, you've got the power target on your cards turned down for better efficiency. No miner runs their hardware balls to the wall. It's not a benchmarking contest.

 

[Sithaer]

If you are a PC gamer, you likely have a 6GB or larger GPU made in the last several years - and nicehash can pay you for the time when you're not gaming - or when you are gaming anyway, like i do.
Gamers already own these GPUs, for gaming. That means gamers mining has zero effect on stock levels of GPUs or high prices... because shit, WE ALREADY OWN THEM.

Or not.
I consider myself as a gamer cause thats pretty much all I do on my PC and its my main hobby for like 20 years now.

I always had budget-mid range cards at most cause well thats what I can afford here, currently using a RX 570 4GB since 2018 September.
Wanted to finally upgrade to something reasonable like a RX 5700 or a RTX 2060/S.

Slowly saved up the money from a barely paying part time job cause thats all I have since the pandemic reached my country 'also had an accident at my previous workplace and had to heal'.
Took me almost 4 months to save up ~350$ for a new card, well second hand but new with warranty.

Obviously the prices went up to nearly double by the time so I ended up with nothing to buy and from the look of it I'm not buying anything this year.

Is it a necessity?
No its not but its sure as hell annoying and a pissoff. 'can't even have this much positive/fun thing right'
If my 570 dies on me in this situation then idk what I'm even gonna buy cause even those are starting to get hard to find and overpriced. 'more than what I paid in 2018'

And no mining wouldn't be an option where I live even if I had a card for it cause power consumption in my household does matter and I'm already bothered with my 'gaming' PC's power draw.

As for the add, obviously based on what I just wrote I do not approve it but its not gonna turn me away from the site.
The design is overkill tho, way in my face with that color and everything.

 

[ThrashZone]

Nobody mines on CPU, that's just silly. Not profitable at all. And if you're a miner, you've got the power target on your cards turned down for better efficiency. No miner runs their hardware balls to the wall. It's not a benchmarking contest.

Hi,
5.0 all core on a 10900k it's balls to the walls it barely sweats at 50c lol
Neither is 2050 mhz on my 1080ti with +700 on it's memory.

Point was mine with gpu why not also on the cpu it might get bored lol

 

[hat]

Hi,
5.0 all core on a 10900k it's balls to the walls it barely sweats at 50c lol
Neither is 2050 mhz on my 1080ti with +700 on it's memory.

Point was mine with gpu why not also on the cpu it might get bored lol

You don't get anything for it. Try mining on your 1080Ti and 10900k with Nicehash and see how much you get for the GPU and the CPU.

 

[Caring1]

Wow, I cant afford the latest card so that doesnt make me a gamer? Bite me!

Lol, clearly you missed the sarcasm in his post.

I would be happy with something that decimates my GTX 980.

I have an old hammer I could let you have.

 

[milewski1015]

I don't mind it. The orange was a bit off-putting at first (can't use an adblocker at work) but as others have said, I'm not usually on the front page. As for the content of it, I like to think that W1zz is just as upset about the GPU shortage as the next guy. By no means does running a NiceHash ad warrant that he personally uses the product or encourages its use. A similar case comes to mind when I watch a Linus Tech Tips vid and the sponsor is Vessi footwear - the guy wears strictly socks and sandals. Ads are here to support the site and keep it running. If NiceHash wants to pay to keep TPU going I have no qualms as I mostly ignore all the ads on here anyway.

or whichever that has woman with big tracks of land bouncing around on the screen, so be it.

I second this motion.

 

[Fluffmeister]

So ultimately... who really cares about gamers?

 

[cst1992]

So ultimately... who really cares about gamers?

Well, Nvidia, of course! /s

 

[Hachi_Roku256563]

I dont understand the massive complaint over the add itself
my only problem is the colour
Sure miners are not helping stock
but their is also silicon shortage
Does that mean if their was a add for another product using Silicon you would get as mad as you have here?

 

[Mussels]

Hi,
Your description of profit needs altering
It's 3.50 usd a day for 10900k 5.0 and 1080ti 2050 mhz no where near profitable to myself it's actually hilariously silly to mine if true and that's what nicehash came up with lol
Electric bill alone would likely exceed 3.50 usd for 24 hours of mining cpu and gpu.

my 1080 cards have lower profit margins than some of the others, due to the memory used. my 1070ti mines more than the 1080 - go figure.

They make about $10Au a day between them in my VR system, which would normally sit idle.

I'm with isaac above me: the ad is fine. use it or dont... but holy crap that bright orange is eyeball hurting over such a large area.

 

[Aquinus]

The main problem that I have is that it pulls so much attention away from the content of the site. Forget the fact that there are a lot of people who are not exactly happy with the fanaticism around crypto. All I can say is that NiceHash better be paying TPU top dollar for that advertising, because obviously it's turning some people off.

 

[Hachi_Roku256563]

I'm with isaac above me: the ad is fine. use it or dont... but holy crap that bright orange is eyeball hurting over such a large area.

I may actually try mining as i learn i can earn a dollar 1.90 acounting for the power bill
realisticly that add aint gonna do very much
i feel like if anything someones gonna try and mine on their i3 laptop with intergrated graphics
but apart from that its not gonna get someone into hardcore multi gpu mining

 

[phill]

I'm just amazed that the thread is still going but still, opinions, expressions and all...

Everyone has to pay to look after the roof over their heads and put food on the table, if the ad's anywhere you don't like you have a few choices, ADblocker being one of them.. I suppose I could be moaned at because of the GPUs I have due to what I have... But, I'm a geek, I love tech, I enjoy buying it and using it. If I can make money from having it, will I? Yes!
I've been 'lucky' of late with a couple new GPUs, one at MSRP and another two that where a little over the MSRP pricing but in the light of what it is right now, is it at all surprising?? Not in the slightest. I am rather frustrated by it all happening, I mean it's becoming that bad that cars can't get built because there's not enough silicone to go around... Isn't that more worrying than a few graphics cards going mining....??

Is it just because it's easier to moan about not liking something these days rather than be the bigger person and to just ignore it and move on?? I dunno.... I've been seeing some things so far this year which make me think back that 2020 wasn't too bad of a year... And I think that's saying something....

 

[damric]

Just a question about compute farms in general.

Has folding@home every actually discovered a cure for anything at all?

Sometimes I wonder if I would have been better off mining.

As far as add revenue, I turned off my add-blocker for this site years ago to help support it. The adds are not annoying here at all. We've all been to those sites where they just annoy the shit out of you so bad that you just abandon and leave or find a way to block the adds. I don't care if TPU is selling meth on here, as long as the adds aren't all up in my face keeping me from reading.

 

[dragontamer5788]

Has folding@home every actually discovered a cure for anything at all?

I don't think folding@home promises a cure. Protein folding is just there to understand a disease at a basic level.

SARS-CoV-2 Nsp16 activation mechanism and a cryptic pocket with pan-coronavirus antiviral potential

Coronaviruses have caused multiple epidemics in the past two decades, in addition to the current COVID-19 pandemic that is severely damaging global health and the economy. Coronaviruses employ between twenty and thirty proteins to carry out their viral replication cycle including infection...

www.biorxiv.org

For example, by simulating how COVID19 works at the molecular level. The above paper is thanks to the processor time donated from folding@home.

To explore how Nsp10 activates Nsp16, we analyzed simulations of Nsp16 in the presence and absence of Nsp10 using DiffNets. Recently, our group combined the sampling powers of the FAST-pockets adaptive sampling algorithm (35) and the computational resources of Folding@home to accumulate more than one millisecond of simulation data between simulations of monomeric Nsp16 and the Nsp16/Nsp10 complex (see methods) (2).

 

[Deleted member 202104]

Six pages of pissing and moaning for this??

Holy shit. I haven't seen such a tragedy since Starbucks was out of sugar-free vanilla.

 

[damric]

I don't think folding@home promises a cure. Protein folding is just there to understand a disease at a basic level.

SARS-CoV-2 Nsp16 activation mechanism and a cryptic pocket with pan-coronavirus antiviral potential

Coronaviruses have caused multiple epidemics in the past two decades, in addition to the current COVID-19 pandemic that is severely damaging global health and the economy. Coronaviruses employ between twenty and thirty proteins to carry out their viral replication cycle including infection...

www.biorxiv.org

For example, by simulating how COVID19 works at the molecular level. The above paper is thanks to the processor time donated from folding@home.

What they don't?

Dang it, next you're going to tell me that all the ASPCA commercials on TV are lying and they never planned on solving animal cruelty no matter how much money they guilt trip my mom into paying.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Why? A sale is a sale. What's the problem. Supply and demand, basic capitalism.

Perhaps you should take a moment to read my other posts, if you still don't understand after that, I can't help you...

Six pages of pissing and moaning for this??

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Holy shit. I haven't seen such a tragedy since Starbucks was out of sugar-free vanilla.

Then you do not understand the problem, likely because you do not work in the PC parts sector of the tech industry.

One could argue that mining is also morally reprehensible, when you look at the vast amounts of energy wasted in the process and when you consider the origin of said wasted energy.

Excellent points all, and you're right, cryptomining is very reprehensible as it is having a very negative effect on the environment as well.

 

[Fluffmeister]

Well, Nvidia, of course! /s

I honestly thought this thread might go quite deep into the pros and cons of mining and how gamers are struggling to get hold of a new card at anything close to MSRP.

Instead we get.... I don't mind orange, what is the big deal?

I'm glad Nvidia are making billions, they like orange too.