November 15 Launch Date for Sandy Bridge-E

[de.das.dude]

if intel does launch sandy bridge E in nov, AMD is in a real tight spot.
not only will those waiting for FX get into buying the SB-E, but also if the FX cant outperform the SBE (which looks impossible at this point) AMD is going to loose a lot of sales everywhere.

 

[arnoo1]

http://www.techpowerup.com/149464/C...aster-On-Average-Than-Core-i7-990X-Intel.html

I don't believe that, that's probally from intel insiders, i want reviews from tpu ,youtube

 

[qubit]

Yup, Intel piling on the pressure, even before Bulldozer comes out and even if it doesn't perform that well.

This is why the advice is to wait until the Bulldozer series have all been released and the prices have settled.

I just wish that Intel and AMD were equal competitors rather than AMD being so much weaker and being forced into the "value" range. You'd then see leapfrogging performance with each generation and strong competition.

 

[repman244]

Here you go

http://forum.coolaler.com/showthread.php?t=273157

 

[ensabrenoir]

What is this nonesense! Early relases? Actual release dates? Bench marks? Unheard of!!!! Intel ....what u doing? Someone must get to the bottom of this!!! Where is my pain? Where is my heartbreak? Where is my disapointment? Where..... is my credit card! This so rules!

 

[FordGT90Concept]

SAS integrated into the chipset? Hot damn!

 

[HossHuge]

Why is this bit even in a news post?

AMD didn't even release an actual date right so who's to say their struggling, we all get told to stop speculating and yet the speculation is in the very news posts we read .

Gotta agree with you pantherx12. News people should not give their opinions in stories.

I hope this drives the prices of the current generation cause I might go Intel soon. Depending of course on the price/preformance of BD.

 

[CDdude55]

Gotta agree with you pantherx12. News people should not give their opinions in stories.

He's sentence was factual, we have heard multiple launch dates in the past from AMD themselves, but they have consistently pushed those dates. As opposed to Intel that has been keeping very tight lips on most details, we are just now hearing a solid launch from them for Sandy Bridge-E.

I think the tick-tock cycle really helps Intel a lot.

 

[brandonwh64]

socket 2011 will be great along with bulldozer. will this change things, yes! If they release at the same time then AMD may have some issues with sales unless they lower prices a good bit.

 

[Crap Daddy]

There will be no connection between sales for SB-E and BD, they are in different leagues. All the hints we had until now is that top desktop bulldozer will retail at around 300$ while I expect that the cheapest SB-E launched this year will be well over this price point. We can only speculate that BD can't smoke SB (hence the price asked) but will compete on a fair level. SB-E is high-end and comes with a price.

 

[HossHuge]

He's sentence was factual, we have heard multiple launch dates in the past from AMD themselves, but they have consistently pushed those dates.

If BD comes out and blows everything away, would you say that they were struggling to release it?

Now, I have now idea if this the case but until it happens it is speculation/opinion.

 

[jpierce55]

1/2 or more of the BD news posts have been FUD, nothing official. Nearly all of them should have been locked after a few posts because of the crazy and wild speculations.

In no way shape of form do I believe BD will compete with SB-E, but since the giveaway said a $300 value I am hoping it is a competent performer for the price.

 

[CDdude55]

If BD comes out and blows everything away, would you say that they were struggling to release it?

Yes i would still say the same thing, because performance is irrelevant. If BD comes out and is a performance monster, that'd be great. But what is factual is factual, they've been slipping in terms of a solid market launch.

Performance wise, as mentioned before, they're really catering towards different markets, AMD has been a hit with regards to price for performance as opposed to Intel where you're getting a lot of power for a higher cost. It's been that way since about the Core 2 Duo era, and only AMD has the power to change that, but from the looks of it, i think that BD will be able to compete well with Sandy Bridge, but that the Socket 2011 Sandy Bridge chips will once again rule over AMD in terms of performance

 

[faramir]

If BD comes out and blows everything away, would you say that they were struggling to release it?

Now, I have now idea if this the case but until it happens it is speculation/opinion.

If BD was capable of "blowing everything away" as you put it they would have released it back in early summer. AMD's own claims put BD IPC performance roughly on par with previous generation, with speedup in total processing power coming from extra cores (proportional to the number of cores added). If that is indeed the case there won't be much blowing everything away, it'll be just blowing.

I *really* hope this additional delay will allow BD to improve in a manner similar to Phenom -> Phenom II transition (squashing the TLB bug). This would imply better IPC than previous generation, higher clock rate and more cores. If they manage to keep power consumption at bay they can still compete with Intel.

 

[Red_Machine]

From the looks of it, i think that BD will be able to compete well with Sandy Bridge

It was intended to compete with the Nehalem chips. I imagine AMD would have done something to change that by now, but as it is, Intel will have released Sandybridge-E by the time Bulldozer comes out (and, if AMDs release date reputation still holds, maybe even Ivy Bridge) which will make it several generations late to the party.

 

[xenocide]

Intel is putting AMD between a rock and a hard place. It's already noticeable on these forums, an increasing number of people are just tired of waiting and buying Intel CPU's already, and if BD isn't on par for SB CPU's, AMD really has no corner on any part of the market (aside from APU's for Laptops\Netbooks).

It was intended to compete with the Nehalem chips. I imagine AMD would have done something to change that by now, but as it is, Intel will have released Sandybridge-E by the time Bulldozer comes out (and, if AMDs release date reputation still holds, maybe even Ivy Bridge) which will make it several generations late to the party.

AMD--Generation's behind, Month's later, but only 80% the cost!

:shadedshu

 

[Damn_Smooth]

If BD was capable of "blowing everything away" as you put it they would have released it back in early summer. AMD's own claims put BD IPC performance roughly on par with previous generation, with speedup in total processing power coming from extra cores (proportional to the number of cores added). If that is indeed the case there won't be much blowing everything away, it'll be just blowing.

Show me where AMD said this. I could save you the time and tell you that you are making this up on your own but I find it funnier to send you on an endless internet search that will stop you from posting nonsense for a while.

I *really* hope this additional delay will allow BD to improve in a manner similar to Phenom -> Phenom II transition (squashing the TLB bug). This would imply better IPC than previous generation, higher clock rate and more cores. If they manage to keep power consumption at bay they can still compete with Intel.

This delay has nothing to do with performance and everything to do with making enough product.

O.T. When was the last time Donanimhaber posted something credible?

 

[[H]@RD5TUFF]

Awesome sauce I am saving my nickels and dimes now, I see trouble looming in November for AMD.

 

[kenkickr]

Depending on how Bulldozer does when the gates open I might have an Intel system in my house for the first time in 12 years.

 

[Millennium]

Will X79 be compatible with Ivy Bridge like P67/z68 is supposed to be? If so a shockingly expensive and marginally useful upgrade might be in order to tide me over

 

[[H]@RD5TUFF]

Will X79 be compatible with Ivy Bridge like P67/z68 is supposed to be? If so a shockingly expensive and marginally useful upgrade might be in order to tide me over

No, 2 very different platforms.

 

[n-ster]

Will X79 be compatible with Ivy Bridge like P67/z68 is supposed to be? If so a shockingly expensive and marginally useful upgrade might be in order to tide me over

Ivy Bridge will come to X79 in a year or so apparently

 

[arnoo1]

Will X79 be compatible with Ivy Bridge like P67/z68 is supposed to be? If so a shockingly expensive and marginally useful upgrade might be in order to tide me over

Nope , new socket, new chip new architecture

 

[[H]@RD5TUFF]

Ivy Bridge will come to X79 in a year or so apparently

source ?

 

[repman244]

source ?

Ivy is more or less a die shrink of SB, and will probably come to X79 eventually.