NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5080 Founders Edition

[mxthunder]

It's still a 45% perf / $ increase. Not great, not terrible.

its not though. the 4080 super REPLACED the 4080 in the lineup last gen. They never existed at the same time. Therefor you have to compare 5080 to 4080 super.
You are comparing based on naming convention alone, which is fun, but not the real story.

Ive always wondered. @W1zzard why dont you include 3080Ti in reviews? I dont think you are the only one, just found it interesting.

I have one and planning to get a 5080 tomorrow. I can still guestimate the uplift, but still.

I have asked him this before too as I loved the 3080Ti, I believe his logic was because its just a 3090 minus 2-3%, so you can extrapolate the info for yourself.

 

[Chrispy_]

Sorry I forgot the /s tag, I didn't mean AMD will launch 9070XT at $800.

Genuinely, I don't think you need the /s tag.
They've proven they will take the greed option over the market share option time and time again. If the 9070XT is even vaguely competitive with the 5080, don't be surprised! I hope, foolishly, that the price is in the $480-$550 bracket, as leaked - but I'm not really going to be surprised in the slightest if it's $800.

I'm a pessimist because that way I'm rarely disappointed. By expecting an $800 9070XT I'm not going to get upset or annoyed that I waited all this time for nothing of value.
I'm a cynic because my hope and optimism for big-tech to do anything that's not self-serving has be crushed, almost without exception over the last 25 years of working in this industry.

 

[JustBenching]

Therefor you have to compare 5080 to 4080 super.

You don't have to do anything. I have a 3060ti, are you telling me I can't compare my 3060ti to the 5080? I HAVE TO compare it to the 4080S? Just chill out man, they are just graphics cards.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

I think if you wanted a 4090 which tbh has been hard to get at msrp even before the 50 series , at least now a 5080 pretty much fills that gap at a much lower price point provided you didn’t need the additional memory and bus bandwidth

I mean anyone buying in 2025 doesn't have a lot of options regardless, if they got about 1000 usd and want better than last generation.

The 4090 isn't dropping to that price anytime soon even used lol.

You don't have to do anything. I have a 3060ti, are you telling me I can't compare my 3060ti to the 5080? I HAVE TO compare it to the 4080S? Just chill out man, they are just graphics cards.

I think what he means is you compare it to the 4080S to see what it offers after 12 months nobody should have been spending 1200+ for a vanilla 4080 for the past year.

A 3060ti would only be a comparison for someone that wants to spend 3x more money to replace it...

 

[BigMack70]

Genuinely, I don't think you need the /s tag.
They've proven they will take the greed option over the market share option time and time again. If the 9070XT is even vaguely competitive with the 5080, don't be surprised! I hope, foolishly, that the price is in the $480-$550 bracket, as leaked - but I'm not really going to be surprised in the slightest if it's $800.

I'm a pessimist because that way I'm rarely disappointed. By expecting an $800 9070XT I'm not going to get upset or annoyed that I waited all this time for nothing of value.
I'm a cynic because my hope and optimism for big-tech to do anything that's not self-serving has be crushed, almost without exception over the last 25 years of working in this industry.

AMD has fumbled some significant aspect of every single GPU launch for 15 years. None of their recent moves behind the scenes inspire confidence they know what they are doing with RDNA 4. Expect cards with a mild price/performance advantage in raster vs the Nvidia competition, meaningfully worse RT performance, and a dramatically worse software feature set. They seem super content with lousy second-rate products which fit that description, and I imagine there's some incompetent exec over there with constant shocked Pikachu face that they are permanently stuck at like 10% market share.

 

[mxthunder]

You don't have to do anything. I have a 3060ti, are you telling me I can't compare my 3060ti to the 5080? I HAVE TO compare it to the 4080S? Just chill out man, they are just graphics cards.

You can compare it to whatever you want.
All im saying is you keep throwing out this ~40% price to performance increase based on the 4080. When that is not a relevant calculation. The last gen card, at the $1000 price point, at this performance tier was the 4080 super, not the 4080.

 

[JustBenching]

I think what he means is you compare it to the 4080S to see what it offers after 12 months nobody should have been spending 1200+ for a vanilla 4080 for the past year.

A 3060ti would only be a comparison for someone that wants to spend 3x more money to replace it...

Sure but if you compare it to the 4080S you also have to keep in mind that whatever performance increase - it happened within a year (2024 - 2025). The 4080S wasn't a 2022 card.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

You can compare it to whatever you want.
All im saying is you keep throwing out this ~40% price to performance increase based on the 4080. When that is not a valid calculation. The last gen card, at the $1000 price point, at this performance tier was the 4080 super, not the 4080.

We also don't know what steet pricing will be on this card it could he 1100-1500 for all we know in 12 months if it finally easy to buy at 999 does that really matter.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

its not though. the 4080 super REPLACED the 4080 in the lineup last gen. They never existed at the same time. Therefor you have to compare 5080 to 4080 super.
You are comparing based on naming convention alone, which is fun, but not the real story.


I have asked him this before too as I loved the 3080Ti, I believe his logic was because its just a 3090 minus 2-3%, so you can extrapolate the info for yourself.

I liked my 3080ti until recent. It feels like im bumming it with this card on newer games. I cant run maxed out anymore at 1440p above 60fps without DLSS (i have a 240hz monitor with a VRR range for 60-240), and ill always prefer native.

Ive had it since launch day winning it in the newegg raffle they were doing at the time. It was dark times then. I prob wouldnt spend $1600 on a gpu again lol. But i got my enjoyment out of it for nearly 4 years

 

[Chrispy_]

I have asked him this before too as I loved the 3080Ti, I believe his logic was because its just a 3090 minus 2-3%, so you can extrapolate the info for yourself.

It wasn't a popular card because it was too close in price to the 3090 to justify halving the VRAM and the regular 3080 12GB was 30% cheaper for near-identical performance. Granted, MSRP's meant even less in 2022 than they do today, but it was basically a 3090 in price, but had the built-in obsolescence of a 3080's smaller VRAM.

It also had a very short production run of just one year before going EOL, and availability was dire - possibly because Nvidia was artificially cutting down 3090 dies to make a 6900XT competitor, only to then realise on the 6900XT's launch that they didn't actually need to segment their product line like that, because the much cheaper die-harvested 3080 silicon was doing a grand old job against AMD's latest.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Sure but if you compare it to the 4080S you also have to keep in mind that whatever performance increase - it happened within a year (2024 - 2025). The 4080S wasn't a 2022 card.

For me it doesn't change much if I skipped both the 4080/4080S I waited two years to save 20% for a whopping 15% more performance if I skipped the 4080S I waited 12 months to save 0 dollars at 12% more performance.... Either way I waited a long ass time for not much....

 

[AnotherReader]

@W1zzard I just noticed that there's a hypothetical 5080 for $800 in the performance per dollar charts. Is that an error?

 

[BigMack70]

The 4090 isn't dropping to that price anytime soon even used lol.

I fully expect the high end GPU market to look roughly like this in a couple months in the US:

$1000-1200 --> used 4080 / 4080 Super
$1300-1600 --> new 5080
$1600-2000 --> used 4090
$3000+ --> new 5090

 

[gffermari]

nVidia should sell the 5080 at 3080ish MSRP price and everyone would be happy.

3-5-9 fps difference between 4080, 4080S and 5080, same node, same VRAM....

 

[oxrufiioxo]

I fully expect the high end GPU market to look roughly like this in a couple months in the US:

$1000-1200 --> used 4080 / 4080 Super
$1300-1600 --> new 5080
$1600-2000 --> used 4090
$3000+ --> new 5090

I suspect you're not far off....

nVidia should sell the 5080 at 3080ish MSRP price and everyone would be happy.

3-5-9 fps difference between 4080, 4080S and 5080, same node, same VRAM....

At 800 it would have been a real winner and 899 would have likely gone down better the issue with 999 is I doubt more than 1/10 people will actually get it at that price..

MSRP are pretty much irrelevant in 2025 in a couple months we will see what the average price is for this card.

 

[rv8000]

We also don't know what steet pricing will be on this card it could he 1100-1500 for all we know in 12 months if it finally easy to buy at 999 does that really matter.

Average price will settle around ~$1200-1250 in the US, based on what happened with the 4080 & 4080s. People need to stop pretending Nvidia cards at msrp are anything but scarce for the first month of retail sales (if you’re lucky). MSRP is a fairytale.

 

[Legacy-ZA]

@W1zzard I just noticed that there's a hypothetical 5080 for $800 in the performance per dollar charts. Is that an error?

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Yes, but this card really should have been priced at that bracket if we are being honest.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Average price will settle around ~$1200-1250 in the US, based on what happened with the 4080 & 4080s. People need to stop pretending Nvidia cards at msrp are anything but scarce for the first month of retail sales (if you’re lucky). MSRP is a fairytale.

I got 3 4080 supers at msrp for builds it wasn't very hard in the US.... I'm wondering how hard the 5080 will be comparatively.

 

[bitsandboots]

I'm really struggling to think of a more disappointing generation, or anything close to this. Maybe 8800gtx -> 9800gtx? But that was like a 1 year wait, and was cheaper!
This is the same thing, for the same price, after years of waiting.
The worst part is, the 4080 was already embarrassing. Following that up with basically an identical product is something else.

I agree with W1zzard that if you don't improve for long enough, someone will disrupt. But it seems harder to do than in the CPU space because drivers & APIs matter and AMD's slow to figure that out. If intel survives long enough maybe they will.

 

[Bwaze]

Average price will settle around ~$1200-1250 in the US, based on what happened with the 4080 & 4080s. People need to stop pretending Nvidia cards at msrp are anything but scarce for the first month of retail sales (if you’re lucky). MSRP is a fairytale.

Apart from cryptomining times I always saw MSRP models here in Europe - that is MSRP + tax + maker's tax - you can't really expect Asus Reference card for a MSRP, even though they do promise it at first. But various Zotac, Palit, INNO3D, PNY, Gainward could always be found.

But now is the exception, at least in high end, AI acceleration is the new cryptomining, so higher end model cards were overpriced - for instance RTX 4090 were listed for 400 - 1000 EUR over their MSRP. I'm sure that will carry over to RTX 5090, perhaps even to RTX 5080 now that it has 16 GB of RAM.

 

[bitsandboots]

I fully expect the high end GPU market to look roughly like this in a couple months in the US:

$1000-1200 --> used 4080 / 4080 Super
$1300-1600 --> new 5080
$1600-2000 --> used 4090
$3000+ --> new 5090

Unless you want VRAM, then you might be buying a 5! year old 3090.
And if you need displayport 2 (next gen VR?), a 7900xtx is in an interesting position for having the same VRAM.
Sorry just can't get over 16GB for $1000 these days. It'll be an issue for games soon enough but it's already inadequate for AI.

 

[Bwaze]

@W1zzard I just noticed that there's a hypothetical 5080 for $800 in the performance per dollar charts. Is that an error?

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It's hypothetical comparison so you see where it would fit if the prices would suddenly drop, or rise. But These kind of charts are hardly usable, if the price of RTX 5080 increases or decreases, so surely other cards on the market would too...

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Apart from cryptomining times I always saw MSRP models here in Europe - that is MSRP + tax + maker's tax - you can't really expect Asus Reference card for a MSRP, even though they do promise it at first. But various Zotac, Palit, INNO3D, PNY, Gainward could always be found.

But now is the exception, at least in high end, AI acceleration is the new cryptomining, so higher end model cards were overpriced - for instance RTX 4090 were listed for 400 - 1000 EUR over their MSRP. I'm sure that will carry over to RTX 5090, perhaps even to RTX 5080 now that it has 16 GB of RAM.

I'm wondering if the MSRP cards will even be stocked this time take gigabyte for example they have one MSRP card and then it jumps to 1200 for example and how long will it take to log onto newegg/Bestbuy/Amazon and easily buy at msrp pre tax ofc

 

[3valatzy]

^^^^ This shit is a rebranded AD103. With slightly higher clocks.

Meh !

 

[Lost_Wanderer]

And Nvidia with a steamer. I’m guessing the 5070 Ti performs about as well as a regular 4080?