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NVIDIA Reportedly Prepares GeForce RTX 5060 and RTX 5060 Ti Unveil Tomorrow

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That's your option. It's not fact.
If an old GTX980 with 4GB can still run modern titles at 1080p and get very playable framerates, an RTX 5060 with twice as much VRAM will have no trouble what-so-ever.
If an old RTX2060 with 6GB can run modern titles at 1080p and get playable framerates, an RTX 5060 with 2GB more VRAM will have no trouble what-so-ever.
If an RTX4060 with 8GB can run modern titles at 1080p & 1440p and get playable framerates, an RTX 5060 with 2GB more VRAM will have no trouble what-so-ever.

For the 5060/5050 models, 8GB is going to be enough, even with RT turned on.
You're on a completely different level now ;) You can also run a lot of modern games on an IGP and if you knock down the bar of acceptable framerate and IQ low enough, you can even sell it as something fantastic to some fool somewhere along the way.

I think you have a great sales pitch for your store ;) Not for TPU.

I agree, the 5060 is such a good deal. It could have 4GB and be priced at $700 real MSRP and it would be a steal, especially if they gave us 21% better performance in exchange versus the 4060. Don't know why everybody's complaining about such "low" VRAM, last I checked doing more with less was just called good engineering!
Yeah speak of going on a tangent about something being enough lmao... this is so out there... 'fact' he says :roll: :roll: . Because now, medium suddenly means 'looking great' and dips to sub 30 FPS is 'playable'. I'm curious what the next goal post is going to be now.
 
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I agree, the 5060 is such a good deal. It could have 4GB and be priced at $700 real MSRP and it would be a steal, especially if they gave us 21% better performance in exchange versus the 4060. Don't know why everybody's complaining about such "low" VRAM, last I checked doing more with less was just called good engineering!
Context isn't your strong suit now is it?
You're on a completely different level now ;) You can also run a lot of modern games on an IGP and if you knock down the bar of acceptable framerate and IQ low enough, you can even sell it as something fantastic to some fool somewhere along the way.

I think you have a great sales pitch for your store ;) Not for TPU.
Oh, high horse riding are we? News flash for you there, your majesty, most people who come to TPU looking for info ARE the peasants/plebs you seem to be looking down your nose at. Your snarky BS not does change reality.

Now, be careful your majesty, that annoying elitism badge is showing..

For the record: 8GB of VRAM is absolutely enough for 1080p gaming and will continue to be as very games can or will use more at that resolution. Anyone who needs more should consider a different card.
 
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Context isn't your strong suit now is it?

Oh, high horse riding are we? News flash for you there, your majesty, most people who come to TPU looking for info ARE the peasants/plebs you seem to be looking down your nose at. Your snarky BS not does change reality.

Now, be careful your majesty, that annoying elitism badge is showing..

For the record: 8GB of VRAM is absolutely enough for 1080p gaming and will continue to be as very games can or will use more at that resolution. Anyone who needs more should consider a different card.
Yes, at this point you can objectively say an 8GB card is a bad way to spend 350+ bucks. The paradigm has changed over the last three generations. Slowly, but surely.

There is nothing elitist about advising people to find a better way to spend their money than an x60 card that is obsolete the moment it rolls of the factory line. Its just good advice. x60 at this point is a fine way to destroy your investment completely as the cards have no resale value. You can also spend twice the amount, recoup 350 after 3-4 years time as well by selling it, and then upgrade for free to an x60 after all. You'll have spent the same, but your first 3-4 years of gaming have been done at a substantially higher fidelity and performance level and you can stay current in the second period for free. Performance in all segments in stagnating, so cards keep their value longer, but sub-par cards will be pointless to sell after a while. At the same time, I could still sell a GTX 1080 6,5 years later for about 30% of its initial price. And why? Because its net performance and VRAM was still on the level of an entry-level x50/x60 at the time. You're just offering a used alternative at a much lower price then.

Its really that simple. The 'new' midrange these days is positioned extremely poorly, and 8GB hurts its value even more in the long run.

You clearly just haven't gotten that memo yet, and that's fine. Some things take time or personal experience to realize they are true. I just do the math, there's really no discussion here, just numbers and ROI over the span of five-year brackets, moving from one GPU to the next. This story isn't new. Its the whole reason the poor get poorer, and the rich get richer. Better budgettary options and choices. If you start tossing north of 1k worth on a new build, these considerations should be in the picture. Penny wise, pound stupid is real here. Save a few more months, get something better, and extract more value.
 
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I just do the math
No, you didn't. That's part of the point I was making. IF you had, you'd be right...
there's really no discussion here.
...there wouldn't be.. But here we are.

Now, am I saying that 8GB is good? Yes. It's 8GB optimal for all games? No. Will it get the job done well at 1080p? Hell yes.

Yes, there are games that will push a bit above that 8GB limit at 1080p, but I can count those games on one hand. None of those will run well on a "60" series GPU at setting that would push them above 8GB, so the debate is purely academic.

The reality is, ANYONE buying a "50"/"60" series card will be turning some settings down enough to drop the needed VRAM below 8GB. This is mathematical fact. IF you had actually "done the math", you would know this and this debate would not be taking place. Thus.
 
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No, you didn't. That's part of the point I was making. IF you had, you'd be right...

...there wouldn't be.. But here we are.

Now, am I saying that 8GB is good? Yes. It's 8GB optimal for all games? No. Will it get the job done well at 1080p? Hell yes.

Yes, there are games that will push a bit above that 8GB limit at 1080p, but I can count those games on one hand. None of those will run well on a "60" series GPU at setting that would push them above 8GB, so the debate is purely academic.

The reality is, ANYONE buying a "50"/"60" series card will be turning some settings down enough to drop the needed VRAM below 8GB. This is mathematical fact. IF you had actually "done the math", you would know this and this debate would not be taking place. Thus.

So you are saying all reviewers saying 8GB is not enough and even 12GB is now bare minimum is WRONG and you are RIGHT?

Seriously?
 
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So you are saying all reviewers saying 8GB is not enough and even 12GB is now bare minimum is WRONG and you are RIGHT?

Seriously?
At 1080p? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. ANY reviewer who says something like that is not seeing the forest for the trees.
 
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