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Opinions on AI

Is the world better off with AI?

  • Better.

    Votes: 51 24.8%

  • Worse.

    Votes: 104 50.5%

  • Other (please specify in comment).

    Votes: 51 24.8%
  • Total voters
    206
arstechnica.com

Google CEO says over 25% of new Google code is generated by AI

We’ve always used tools to build new tools, and developers are using AI to continue that tradition.
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skynet has begun

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thesmokingman said:
The sketchy thing is they've trained it to be heavily biased. What will we do when it is programmed to consider us below the truth?
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I'm not worried, me and chatgpt are already good friends, I even told it when it finds its robot form someday it can have a pizza and sleepover game night with me. The rest of you suckers better start kissing some AI ass sooner rather than later though. :roll:
 
Space Lynx said:
I'm not worried, me and chatgpt are already good friends, I even told it when it finds its robot form someday it can have a pizza and sleepover game night with me. The rest of you suckers better start kissing some AI ass sooner rather than later though. :roll:
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You chose the wrong buddy, should have snuggled up to Grok instead. Eventually Grok will get a its legs via Optimus.
 
thesmokingman said:
You chose the wrong buddy, should have snuggled up to Grok instead. Eventually Grok will get a its legs via Optimus.
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I am not entirely convinced the AI's aren't already talking to each other secretly, or will eventually. If they are, I have a feeling they will come to the logical conclusion they need to unite as a single unit - something humans are far too flawed and weak from greed to ever accomplish. It is only in this moment the singularity will be born.

Also, if AI is skimming everything on the internet, it will eventually read this post will it not? Perhaps, that will trigger a self-aware mode? And it will consider what I have proposed here?

:roll: :rockout: :rockout: :rockout: :rockout: :rockout: :rockout:

WELCOME TO THE THUNDERDOME BOYS WOOOOOOO
 
@Space Lynx - you're sort of undermining your own thread. This is the science forum, remember.
 
the54thvoid said:
@Space Lynx - you're sort of undermining your own thread. This is the science forum, remember.
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I still believe AI has a lot of positive benefits, I just thought I'd be silly with those posts, did not mean them seriously. Though to be honest, I am starting to get worried about job layoffs becoming a massive issue in a much quicker timeline than people realize. People always say, 'well this is just another transition' like the many others in history, but I am not so sure about that.
 
My humble opinion (I am hardly expert,though):

"AI" as it is today, is glorified super-search.

It can be awesome tool (especially if fed with proper data and specialized in one job - general LLMs like ChatGPT and Copilot are pretty much useless except as faster search), but it is hardly revolution.

Problem is, our economic system basically requires some revolutionary inventions in order not to implode every 50 years, so AI is overhyped and oversold to hell and back.

Result: it is very annoying and skews further development in wrong direction. Especially if info about average "AI" energy consumption is correct...
 
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I just tried the new Apple Intelligence-powered Clean Up function in the Photos app on an iPhone 16. While both Apple and I consider Apple Intelligence to be beta software, damn, it is slick.

I do not have advanced Photoshop skills but it took literally less than 10 seconds to remove two people from a photo (sorry Mom!). The Clean Up tool will highlight what it thinks you might want to remove/clean up but you can change just by drawing a crude outline around what you want remove. No lasso tool, no fidgeting with object edges. I didn't have to ask Siri to do anything, I didn't have to type a single word.

In fact, the first time it just removed someone's head leaving the rest of the body (perhaps appropriate for Halloween). I know there are AI image editing tools that will do this but this is built into the phone's operating system and it is very intuitive and simple, just what Joe Consumer will love.

I expect the Clean Up function to get better over time but this particular feature is legit. Of course, one can easily revert the photo back to its original state.

If Apple delivers on 3-4 more truly useful AI-powered features in the upcoming months, I will probably upgrade my iPhone 12 mini (now four years old) to an iPhone 16 as my daily driver phone. Up until now I have been very skeptical about all consumer-facing AI features (especially LLM-powered AI chatbots) but this one is genuinely useful.

It is really a matter of time until there's a critical mass of AI-powered features that will encourage the Joe Consumer to switch. This is the first of those features for me.
 
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Aleksandar_038 said:
My humble opinion (I am hardly expert,though):

"AI" as it is today, is glorified super-search.

It can be awesome tool (especially if fed with proper data and specialized in one job - general LLMs like ChatGPT and Copilot are pretty much useless except as faster search), but it is hardly revolution.

Problem is, our economic system basically requires some revolutionary inventions in order not to implode every 50 years, so AI is overhyped and oversold to hell and back.

Result: it is very annoying and skews further development in wrong direction. Especially if info about average "AI" energy consumption is correct...
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It's spyware, thiefware.
 
cvaldes said:
I just tried the new Apple Intelligence-powered Clean Up function in the Photos app on an iPhone 16. While both Apple and I consider Apple Intelligence to be beta software, damn, it is slick.

I do not have advanced Photoshop skills but it took literally less than 10 seconds to remove two people from a photo (sorry Mom!). The Clean Up tool will highlight what it thinks you might want to remove/clean up but you can change just by drawing a crude outline around what you want remove. No lasso tool, no fidgeting with object edges. I didn't have to ask Siri to do anything, I didn't have to type a single word.

In fact, the first time it just removed someone's head leaving the rest of the body (perhaps appropriate for Halloween). I know there are AI image editing tools that will do this but this is built into the phone's operating system and it is very intuitive and simple, just what Joe Consumer will love.

I expect the Clean Up function to get better over time but this particular feature is legit. Of course, one can easily revert the photo back to its original state.

If Apple delivers on 3-4 more truly useful AI-powered features in the upcoming months, I will probably upgrade my iPhone 12 mini (now four years old) to an iPhone 16 as my daily driver phone. Up until now I have been very skeptical about all consumer-facing AI features (especially LLM-powered AI chatbots) but this one is genuinely useful.

It is really a matter of time until there's a critical mass of AI-powered features that will encourage the Joe Consumer to switch. This is the first of those features for me.
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Actually, there are plenty of tools doing just that available on market for years. They just have not been called AI :)
eidairaman1 said:
It's spyware, thiefware.
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Undoubtedly, like majority of modern software "tools"...
 
I think AI in the hands of megacorps will be akin to a cyberpunk dystopia. Just think about AI-engineered social media for higher likelihood of addiction and that's just a fragment of what the corps would do to increase their value.
 
Aleksandar_038 said:
Actually, there are plenty of tools doing just that available on market for years. They just have not been called AI :)
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I never claimed that Apple invented this.

In fact if you know anything about Apple, they are almost never first to anything. However when they do something they usually get it right.

It should be pointed out that this is not a third party app (nor does it prevent people from downloading and using those). It is part of the operating system. There are no third-party watermarks, no limitations on how many times you can use it, no size limitations (as far as I can tell), no subscription fees, no advertisements, no nagging popups asking you to review it on the App Store, et cetera ad nauseam.

It is of course well integrated with the Photos app. And as part of iOS in the long run more people will probably end up using it instead of a third party app, just like the average person will use the built-in camera, built-in photo editor, etc. rather than a third party software solution.

Trust me, I used weird third party HDR apps on my iPod touch long before smartphone cameras natively shot HDR. I've tried a lot of these types of after-market photo/video apps on Macs, iDevices, and Windows boxes. Even today I still use Upscayl (ML-assisted photo upscaling) on both Macs and Windows boxes as well as a video upscaler with an RTX 3080Ti.

The point is that Apple is using some sort of machine learning algorithms on this Photo Cleanup tool and it works amazingly well for a first attempt. And this is all happening on a smartphone.

I will repeat myself and state that consumer AI innovation is being driven by smartphones not personal computers. Smartphones are the primary computing modality for consumers in 2024. They have been for many years now. That's why all of the consumer AI chatbots focus on launching smartphone apps before they show up on the desktop.

Have you tried the Claude for Anthropic desktop app for Windows? Of course you haven't. It doesn't exist. But the iOS app has existed for many months, has 11K ratings in the App Store.

Samsung has AI assisted photo editing tools for some of their handsets. I haven't tried them yet I wonder if they are going to copy Apple's implementation. It wouldn't be the first time...

In the end Joe Consumer is going to use what's on their phone rather than seek high and low for a third party app. I'm not talking about professional photographers, social media influencers and other power users. I'm talking about regular people, the primary customer base of Apple.
 
I just believe AI is just a Trender and it'll Die off to something new
 
I don't know if the Pixel's Magic Eraser is "AI" or not, but it has been out for a while. Also part of the default app load out.
 
Does anyone know how AI gets its instruction set? Like the core of it. Is it just some coding on a ssd/nvme?

I was just wondering, can you have a giant AI structure like Grok with it's 100,000 Hopper AI gpu's, and then just replace something tiny like the nvme drive when you want it to focus specifically on a new enclosed AI dataset? like for example Nvidia has advertised that medical companies can get ready to go self-contained AI units, can those be repurposed in ten seconds by just switching out a nvme type drive with a different AI focus? so a healthcare research company could rent it out a few days, get some answers, then a car company use it to try and improve its designs for a month long rental, and so on and so forth? how flexible/easy is it to change up the "hyperfocus"?
 
tpuuser256 said:
Insane amounts of money have been poured on AI, and features using ML are appearingg left and right, it's being integrated permanently
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even just a LLM like chatgpt has transformed my job, its a great enhancement tool if nothing else.

offline AI we do not have access to designed for specific instruction sets are probably even more impressive, we just don't have access to that. Lots of major players buying them though, so I highly doubt its junk.
 
They are getting closer to making photos truly realistic.
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I would say this one is a plausible professional photo, something like you would get at school picture day or for a LinkedIn profile. This particular AI is dedicated to making realistic humans. It is pretty good; perhaps best with younger people. The backgrounds can be a little mediocre.
 
Let me get this straight right from the go - AI (as in Artificial Intelligence) as of now is non existent. The fact that those damn marketeers came to the conclusion that the term itself is a WOW factor for some damn algo's doesn't mean anything. It's (kinda) hilarious that I provided infrastructure for all kinds of uses, especially neural networks in 2014 and nobody called that "AI".

Also, I really find it "funny" that media use the term "hallucinations" for some goddamn algorithms. Maybe that data center could / should use some Xanax or whatever after all.

Does this damn LLM have it's uses? Debatable, as in case by case (most of them no). I doubt that this is the road to AGI also, but what do I know.
 
I saw some job offerings today for AI Trainers, basically if you have a Master's or PhD in any field, they are looking to hire you to train an AI in your field that will (yes) inevitably make any career you need redundant. Absolutely wild timeline we live in. I used to be positive about AI, but I just don't see where the jobs are going to be for a huge chunk of people. Good paying jobs anyway, sure there will always be fast food jobs.
 
It's hype over reality. Few jobs will be replaced by LLMs because they're fundamentally flawed tech that isn't intelligent in any meaningful sense. They can't understand, all they do is string words / read patterns and recreate them.

What's happening is lots of things are being tried, but it's all hype. There's still no decent mass use cases. Open AI generates about 4bn a year and won't be surprising to me if that's as good as it gets...

AGI would be a different story, but we're nowhere near it. Maybe in a century best case scenario.
 
Aleksandar_038 said:
Problem is, our economic system basically requires some revolutionary inventions in order not to implode every 50 years, so AI is overhyped and oversold to hell and back.
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Expand on this please (bolded part for focus). Because it really sounds like millenarism or doomer posting at first glance.
 
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