Over 200,000 Sold Radeon RX 9070 and RX 9070 XT GPUs? AMD Says No Number was Given

[Denver]

LoL, exceeded expectation is a big stretch, given that the 9070XT would flop if they were selling for 650usd (that AMD wanted to)

The largest slice is now selling at $700-800 and is a hit, with the limited supply it was obvious that it was destined to sell out.. Even those who had never thought of buying AMD decided to give it a go.

The MSRP of $599 just helps create a positive narrative with Reviewers, pure marketing.

 

[PaddieMayne]

Well i know that Overclockers.co.uk sold over 5000 9070 series AMD cards to customers on day 1 of launch, as they announced it on there website.

 

[80-watt Hamster]

LoL, exceeded expectation is a big stretch, given that the 9070XT would flop if they were selling for 650usd (that AMD wanted to)

9070 XTs are selling for a lot more than $650...



To be clear, those are Sold listings. Meanwhile, at Microcenter:



... and the more expensive models are sold out, too. It's very possible, even likely, that if RTX 5000 had launched with sufficient stock we wouldn't be seeing this. But it didn't, and we are. I don't know why you so badly want AMD to fail, or to believe so.

 

[Nostras]

I guess the companies can say whatever they want, we'll never see the exact numbers, and all other partial data can be contested that it somehow doesn't represent the whole market.

So this is AMDs claim. Meanwhile Nvidia claimed it has shipped twice as many RTX 50x0 cards as in same time at RTX 40x0 launch.

NVIDIA Says It Shipped Twice The RTX 50 Cards In The First Five Weeks Than RTX 40 Series

Meanwhile gamers are scratching their heads and wondering where are all these buyers and cards...

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You're kind of falling for Nvidia's marketing here. They're not lying, but being extremely deceitful with this statement.
If you want to know more, check Tim's video on it.

It's actually very enlightening and shows how scummy Nvidia is by saying that.
If you don't feel like watching the video you can read neatfeatguy's comment below, it's pretty much the same thing.

 

[neatfeatguy]

I guess the companies can say whatever they want, we'll never see the exact numbers, and all other partial data can be contested that it somehow doesn't represent the whole market.

So this is AMDs claim. Meanwhile Nvidia claimed it has shipped twice as many RTX 50x0 cards as in same time at RTX 40x0 launch.

NVIDIA Says It Shipped Twice The RTX 50 Cards In The First Five Weeks Than RTX 40 Series

Meanwhile gamers are scratching their heads and wondering where are all these buyers and cards...

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Micro Center stores had hundreds of AMD cards at launch, supposedly reported by employees that I've heard about. I had someone tell me that their local Micro Center store actually had signs up listing a total of 610 AMD cards available launch day. There are a total of 28 MC locations in the States. If each store had had at least 400 cards or up to 600 cards, that means just between MC stores that's a total of 11,200 to 16,800 cards.

We can tell from Mindweaver's GPU stock postings that AMD cards have been selling and some restock has been happening, but that's just a small timeframe capture and we don't know for sure how many cards have come and gone since the initial launch day at MC. If I had to venture a guess, I'd say just from MC locations alone they've sold around 20K AMD GPUs. The interesting thing about MC is that you can't just go in and buy up a bunch of GPUs at once, you're limited 1 every 30 days per household (at least at my MC). This means these cards are getting distributed amongst a lot of individuals and not just to bots snagging up what they can to scalp.

What you need to remember about the 40x0 series vs the 50x0 series is that their was a longer period between card releases:
* 4090 launched first on October 12, 2022
* 4080 launched a month later on November 16, 2022
* 4070Ti launched about 6 weeks later on January 5, 2023
* 4070 launched 3 months later on April 13, 2023
Here you have 4 cards launching over the period of about 6 months.

The 50x0 series launch timeframe:
* 5090 launched January 30, 2025
* 5080 launched January 30, 2025
* 5070Ti launched a month later on February 20, 2025
* 5070 launched a couple weeks later on March 5, 2025
Here you have 4 cards launching over the period of about 1.5 months.

It's easy for Nvidia to say, "But look! We have more cards shipped on this series compared to last!" because they had these all shipped out in about a quarter of the time it took them to get the same number of cards out with the 40x0 series. This is just another marketing ploy, if you ask me. Nvidia trying to save face that they screwed up, dropped the ball and are scrambling to catch up....so what do they do, what any good PR would do to help misdirect the customers while trying to save face: Point out that they had more GPUs this time around when compared to last gen to help paint a rosy picture about the current situation.

Here's what I noticed about the launch of 40x0 cards: The 4090 was near impossible to get until almost 6 months after it launched. The 4080s sat on the shelves (at least my local Micro Center store) for weeks before they even started to sell and once they did sell they were very slow to be replaced. I didn't really care much about the 4070/Ti models to pay attention to how they sold.

 

[Nostras]

It's easy for Nvidia to say, "But look! We have more cards shipped on this series compared to last!" because they had these all shipped out in about a quarter of the time it took them to get the same number of cards out with the 40x0 series. This is just another marketing ploy, if you ask me. Nvidia trying to save face that they screwed up, dropped the ball and are scrambling to catch up....so what do they do, what any good PR would do to help misdirect the customers while trying to save face: Point out that they had more GPUs this time around when compared to last gen to help paint a rosy picture about the current situation.

You won't convince me Nvidia didn't see it coming. I think you're giving Nvidia too much credit here.
They knew this was going to happen and decided not to do anything about it or inform everyone else in advance because why should they?
Stock up, shareholder happy.

The marketing department is simply tasked with trying to minimize the public backlash as much as possible and they're doing a swell job seeing people eat it at face value.

 

[Hereticbar]

LoL, exceeded expectation is a big stretch, given that the 9070XT would flop if they were selling for 650usd (that AMD wanted to)

Even at $699, I would venture to say the RX 9070 XT would probably sold just as well based on the number of people complaining about not being able to buy it at MSRP and ended up having to pay more. Also I don't think it is a bold projection to make that majority of the cards sold are not MSRP cards.

Outside of the United States, they are selling at even higher prices and still they are flying off the shelves. The only country today that still have RX 9070 XT readily available is China, mostly because it is a heavily Nvidia dominated market even more so than most other countries. Having said that, the "MSRP" cards like the Sapphire Pulse and Powercolor Reaper still occasionally go out of stock in China even though they are priced at $780.

 

[tfdsaf]

Cool story bro, but they needed a lot more GPU's in stock. There is a pent-up demand for GPU's, people didn't buy last generation because of how expensive it was, even the4 generations before, the RTX 3000 and RX 6000 were avoided by your average gamers, most 3000 and 6000 series were bought for mining and non gamers during covid, just to put something in their PC's.

So there is a huge demand for good value GPU's, they would need to produce at least 1 million of these GPU's in the next 2 months to match demand.

 

[nguyen]

9070 XTs are selling for a lot more than $650...

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To be clear, those are Sold listings. Meanwhile, at Microcenter:

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... and the more expensive models are sold out, too. It's very possible, even likely, that if RTX 5000 had launched with sufficient stock we wouldn't be seeing this. But it didn't, and we are. I don't know why you so badly want AMD to fail, or to believe so.

Am I to be surprised that high end GPU are sold out and prices to be inflated at launch?

Weren't 7900XTX also heavily inflated and sold out at launch too? Lots of people hold AMD dearly in their heart.

I don't know why you think I want Radeon to fail, they are litterally at the bottom already that I think they should try to claim at least 20% of the marketshare, and selling at inflated price is not the right way to claim marketshare.

 

[blinnbanir]

Where I live even pre-built PCs are out of stock if they have a 9070/9070XT. There is also the 45% market share story on Japan.

 

[csendesmark]

Nice,
But I wonder that how many Geforce 5070 been sold?

 

[TechBuyingHavoc]

Meanwhile gamers are scratching their heads and wondering where are all these buyers and cards...

Buyers with more money than you.

And that is not a negative comment, companies will be some of the buyers here. Maybe some scientists (if you are being very AMD positive). Plus any Nvidia gamers that are turned off by Blackwell. They are used to much higher prices.

Not if AIBs and distributors keep putting prices up

The problem will fix itself. High prices are the solution to high prices.

Disclaimer: High being a relative term here. If you are the unlucky lonely soul to consider something high priced but no one else does, it is not a high price to the actual market.

Am I to be surprised that high end GPU are sold out and prices to be inflated at launch?

Weren't 7900XTX also heavily inflated and sold out at launch too? Lots of people hold AMD dearly in their heart.

I don't know why you think I want Radeon to fail, they are litterally at the bottom already that I think they should try to claim at least 20% of the marketshare, and selling at inflated price is not the right way to claim marketshare.

The right way to sell anything is to "barely" sell all of your product. That is the right price, to have demand just barely outstripping supply.

So if AMD is selling all of its cards at a given price, you could argue the price is perhaps too low from a market equilibrium POV. To gain market share, you need to increase production which will then overwhelm the demand at a given price. Prices will then drop until it is no longer profitable for the producer to increase any more production.

 

[blinnbanir]

Am I to be surprised that high end GPU are sold out and prices to be inflated at launch?

Weren't 7900XTX also heavily inflated and sold out at launch too? Lots of people hold AMD dearly in their heart.

I don't know why you think I want Radeon to fail, they are litterally at the bottom already that I think they should try to claim at least 20% of the marketshare, and selling at inflated price is not the right way to claim marketshare.

At the bottom in mind share. I have only been here for a few but it seems there is a heavy anti AMD thought process in some people. Even your comment about being at the bottom makes no sense given the title of this thread. I guess what I am saying is the continued anti AMD argument is beginning to sound a little ridiculous. The 7000 series did sell out but within a month they were readily available. Even in the World of inflated prices the 9070XT was sold with the performance of 7900 for 7700XT prices. Obviously the market has responded positively. I guess the RT argument will move to PT now too. It is also up to AIBs to charge what they will. The Skus that AMD has pricing whatever on are all the budget cards anyway. 200000 is a very large number in a matter of weeks.

 

[Dragokar]

I am on number 4 now for friends, family and “clients” and all at MSRP. Yeah, you need patience, but it is possible even without bots. I still hope that the better supply in April rumors are true, since I would love to get the MSRP cards at every time and everywhere.

 

[JustBenching]

AMD came correct with a product that exceeded expectations and their being rewarded for it.

They did? A 4070ti super a year later for the same price exceeded your expectations? What the hell were you expecting, a 1060?

 

[JustBenching]

Micro Center stores had hundreds of AMD cards at launch, supposedly reported by employees that I've heard about. I had someone tell me that their local Micro Center store actually had signs up listing a total of 610 AMD cards available launch day. There are a total of 28 MC locations in the States. If each store had had at least 400 cards or up to 600 cards, that means just between MC stores that's a total of 11,200 to 16,800 cards.

We can tell from Mindweaver's GPU stock postings that AMD cards have been selling and some restock has been happening, but that's just a small timeframe capture and we don't know for sure how many cards have come and gone since the initial launch day at MC. If I had to venture a guess, I'd say just from MC locations alone they've sold around 20K AMD GPUs. The interesting thing about MC is that you can't just go in and buy up a bunch of GPUs at once, you're limited 1 every 30 days per household (at least at my MC). This means these cards are getting distributed amongst a lot of individuals and not just to bots snagging up what they can to scalp.

What you need to remember about the 40x0 series vs the 50x0 series is that their was a longer period between card releases:
* 4090 launched first on October 12, 2022
* 4080 launched a month later on November 16, 2022
* 4070Ti launched about 6 weeks later on January 5, 2023
* 4070 launched 3 months later on April 13, 2023
Here you have 4 cards launching over the period of about 6 months.

The 50x0 series launch timeframe:
* 5090 launched January 30, 2025
* 5080 launched January 30, 2025
* 5070Ti launched a month later on February 20, 2025
* 5070 launched a couple weeks later on March 5, 2025
Here you have 4 cards launching over the period of about 1.5 months.

It's easy for Nvidia to say, "But look! We have more cards shipped on this series compared to last!" because they had these all shipped out in about a quarter of the time it took them to get the same number of cards out with the 40x0 series. This is just another marketing ploy, if you ask me. Nvidia trying to save face that they screwed up, dropped the ball and are scrambling to catch up....so what do they do, what any good PR would do to help misdirect the customers while trying to save face: Point out that they had more GPUs this time around when compared to last gen to help paint a rosy picture about the current situation.

Here's what I noticed about the launch of 40x0 cards: The 4090 was near impossible to get until almost 6 months after it launched. The 4080s sat on the shelves (at least my local Micro Center store) for weeks before they even started to sell and once they did sell they were very slow to be replaced. I didn't really care much about the 4070/Ti models to pay attention to how they sold.

How's that a marketing ploy? If it's true that they shipped twice as many cards that's great. At least some people got their hands on 5070s and 5070 tis that they couldnt last gen cause the cards weren't even released.

 

[Dahita]

I don't understand all the fuss here.

AMD did well, good, we need competition. Nvidia lied to everyone during their presentation at the CES regarding performance, that's also not really a debate. Both companies struggle with production because they favor the much more lucrative AI market. Nvidia has much more customers than AMD in the AI/Cloud space, thus less room for gamers, hence more scarcity than AMD, but both are short on stocks.

By July, everyone will have changed his outdated graphic card and the market will have stabilized. Just be patient.

 

[Hecate91]

How's that a marketing ploy? If it's true that they shipped twice as many cards that's great. At least some people got their hands on 5070s and 5070 tis that they couldnt last gen cause the cards weren't even released.

It isn't just marketing ploy, it's an outright lie, they didn't ship twice as many cards as the 40 series because only the 4090 was available on the 40 series launch.

It's a genuine question, what were you expecting?

If you're seriously asking then, the 5070Ti is a 4080, that doesn't even beat the 4080 Super, and it was the same price a year before.

 

[JustBenching]

It isn't just marketing ploy, it's an outright lie, they didn't ship twice as many cards as the 40 series because only the 4090 was available on the 40 series launch.

What difference does it make if only the 4090 was available at launch? They either shipped twice as many cards or they didn't. You are saying they didn't. Do you have some evidence for that? I'm not taking your word for it.

If you're seriously asking then, the 5070Ti is a 4080, that doesn't even beat the 4080 Super, and it was the same price a year before.

4080 wasn't available on launch though. I mean you admitted this yourself, you just said only the 4090 was available at launch...

 

[Hecate91]

At the bottom in mind share. I have only been here for a few but it seems there is a heavy anti AMD thought process in some people. Even your comment about being at the bottom makes no sense given the title of this thread. I guess what I am saying is the continued anti AMD argument is beginning to sound a little ridiculous. The 7000 series did sell out but within a month they were readily available. Even in the World of inflated prices the 9070XT was sold with the performance of 7900 for 7700XT prices. Obviously the market has responded positively. I guess the RT argument will move to PT now too. It is also up to AIBs to charge what they will. The Skus that AMD has pricing whatever on are all the budget cards anyway. 200000 is a very large number in a matter of weeks.

Some people just want to see AMD fail, the same people who cry there isn't any competition, and when AMD does compete they're getting all defensive and find something to complain about, those people will keep buying team green anyway.
AMD has been doing very well with the 9070 and 9070XT, in the US Microcenter stores have gotten significant amounts of stock, AMD shipping to physical stores that place limits so scalpers can't buy them up was a smart move. When AMD has cards in stock for much more reasonable prices, people are going to buy them and the fact they're selling out even above MSRP may mean the Nvidia mindshare is falling off as buyers get tired of overpriced GPU's and as Nvidia keeps prioritizing AI over the gaming market to the degree that they don't care about gamers at all since hardware and driver quality has suffered.

What difference does it make if only the 4090 was available at launch? They either shipped twice as many cards or they didn't. You are saying they didn't. Do you have some evidence for that? I'm not taking your word for it.

It makes a lot of difference, Nvidia couldn't have possibly shipped more 50 series GPU's in the same span as when the 40 series launched, because the 4090 launched first, and the 4080 didn't ship until a month later. Don't take my word for it, read the post from @neatfeatguy explaining the 40 series launch.
If Nvidia shipped more 50 series cards then why is every reviewer saying the 50 series has been a paper launch? Where are all the cards then?

4080 wasn't available on launch though. I mean you admitted this yourself, you just said only the 4090 was available at launch...

I'm not even sure what you're getting at now. You're wanting to imply the 9070XT is disappointing because it doesn't beat the 5070Ti in some cherrypicked benchmarks, the point is the 5070Ti is a 4080 all over again, for the same price 2 years later.

 

[Rover4444]

Even in the World of inflated prices the 9070XT was sold with the performance of 7900 for 7700XT prices.

Is this delusional, or is it just me?

 

[INSTG8R]

Mhm, we'll see if AMD puts a dent in that declining market share.

That's the real news. Not this daily soundbite

I mean the card is a “hit” as far as price/performance. If I didn’t have an XTX and didn’t require pure raster I’d be all over it. I’m 99% VR the 9000s can’t fit my requirements.

 

[sethmatrix7]

Sold to shops not to end-customers, big difference


Looks like 3060 ti will hold for longer than expected... sad.

I don’t see much difference at all when the cards are sold out everywhere

 

[blinnbanir]

Is this delusional, or is it just me?

That was the claim and it was not refuted by reviews. I do not have one so I cannot say for sure, just what the message was.

 

[Assimilator]

That was the claim and it was not refuted by reviews.

[citation needed]