OFFICIAL Path of Exile (Discussion)

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I do have a BoB, at level 46, but it's only 2 Unlinked Greens... Technically speaking, it's an required level 46, can't tell from here the item level, but it should be able to handle a 5L5S, if I get really lucky.... Still, only 31% added life, plus 700 armor, is not that great to trade in 1000 evasion for.

Honestly, I'll probably just focus on Thick Skin, and then gear as I can, and enjoy the maps. I was reading about people rerolling maps to get higher densities on mobs for more efficient farming. I understand the logistics. And I understand about how hard the leveling is at higher levels. But that just doesn't sound like the way I want to enjoy the game . I'll reroll for better gear, or to take away a nasty mob mod, but otherwise, I'll probably just go into each one like the first one: slowly and carefully, killing everything that moves or doesn't, and enjoying the thrill

5 linking is not that hard (can be crafted for 150 fusings). I did it several times without the craft bench, it takes a while (it helps if you 6 socket the item first and make it 20% quality), but it's doable even in single player. Use the master's inventory for buying jeweler's and fusings at a discount.
Another thing that I forgot to mention is that life leech is capped at 20% of your max life per second. So stacking life leech past a certain point is actually useless (path of building can help you there).

 

[Vayra86]

I think I'll take the 4 points I have, and hit Thick Skin for an 16% bump (and +4% more next point), and then work my way towards Constitution and the surrounds for 49% more. That will take me a few levels tho I'll just end up farming the gear to add some health in until I get there . I don't expect to do much in higher tier maps for a bit. I always hated rushing towards an end goal in a game. Once I do that, I lose all motivation to continue. So, I'll just enjoy the ride along the way

Man, 200% is a SERIOUS stretch. I don't know how people manage that while still attempting to get anything useful from the Tree. I'm at 77% off the tree, plus the random +10 to life here and there, and it'll be 12 points dedicated to just stretching out for that 49% at Constitution....

180-200% is more realistic for most builds, but yes, its achievable and it takes 34-40 nodes of 5%, or less than that if you have higher % nodes in there which most class starts do have somewhere. A really great source of LOTS of health is the marauder side, or the duelist side, and the best of them all is the Scion. But all three can easily access that massive block of health nodes bottomleft of Scion. It can be a really smart move to at least have a road leading up to there, pick up 2 nodes including the big one, and let the rest sit there until you feel you get oneshot again. If you are say, level 75, then at that point anything you do should be going into defense, jewel slots, and optimization. If you are still working on base damage/weapon damage nodes or key nodes, that's generally wrong. By this point you also shouldn't have any difficult pathways to carve in the tree to 'get to places'. That last bit also plays into not having to struggle with your base Str/Int/Dex all the time when levelling.

Note: even for ranged classes going duelist is a really good idea because you get boatloads of physical damage nodes and you're in a great position on the tree to stack things, while Ranger isn't too far off. Not many ranged bow builds need to go towards Shadow, so its worth studying the specializations for Duelist as well and not tunnel vision on having that Ranger for a ranged build. PoE is much more flexible than that. Another cool thing about Duelist is that you're also close to Iron Reflexes and things like Point Blank which synergize well with dex/ranged builds. Alternatively, consider a Scion, it has light-versions that mix and match all specializations for each class, so it works for everything, but is a bit less min-maxy of nature.

That leaves you over 60 nodes to spend on other things, a big part going into your overall pathway to good stuff. So yes, the passive tree is ALL ABOUT efficiency and planning.

If you make a health based build, the first order of business is planning your starting class + Specialization along with a good passive path along those health nodes. The rest comes after that. If you base your planning on getting the EHP (effective HP) up, its hard to go wrong and you also save yourself tons of Regrets along the way. You can wiggle around with damage, but not with health, and you're very likely to get damage increases not from the tree but from gear and skillgems.

A note on EHP: effective HP can also be increased by dramatically increasing the value of a single hit point. Most notably through armor and resistances, but also % reduced damage nodes for example. Every type of mitigation adds value to every hit point you have, making it the best way to scale up your toughness. Health scales linearly, but armor acts as a multiplier.

Don't like this tight planning around HP??? Then roll your ranged toon as an Evasion/Dodge guy, don't take the Ritalin, and play PoE like a twitch shooter Another option is ES, but that involves a lot of new mechanics too and is pretty advanced + you can't be in the bottom half of the passive tree; a Shadow or Templar work well with that, and yes, even with ranged builds you can do this.


Here 's an example of a passive tree for a claw based melee Shadow, with IR and therefore pretty close to what you could get - it has 169% HP. And this is far from optimal, just a theorized build of mine that I'll probably never do. But still gives a good picture

https://www.poeplanner.com/AAMAAWRB...CTWpqSXlFSkxaaHJ4dgAQQUFBQ0FBZlFBUUgwQVFBQQAA

 

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I'll add to that jewels. They can also cheaply (just alt them and maybe regal the nicer rolls or chaos rare ones) boost your life, but can only realistically get about 3 of them while not branching too far off your planned skill tree.

Edit: Also, if I'm not mistaken, the ranger has a harder time improving eHP. They usually don't have armor or energy shield and as nice as evasion is, when you do get hit, you get hit hard. You're usually supposed to add dodge (Acrobatics, Phase Acrobatics, whatever). Oh well, just like everything else in this game, it's complicated.

Edit2: I've also remembered, you should do the master's missions each day. They're like a free lvl76-77 map once you level the masters to 8, but without the drawbacks/modifiers. Zana's missions will have modifiers, but also the XP to show for it. If you can't breeze through the maters' missions, mapping will kill you, too (i.e. my ranger was being eaten for breakfast by Vagan because he seems to be using RT often, so my evasion meant I was basically naked). If, for some reason, you can't handle a master's mission, you should still get it and then abandon it. It will reset the master's inventory. And I got a lot of my nicer items from masters. I also buy quality gems from masters (the cheaper ones) and once I get 40 quality, that gets vendored for a GCP.

 

[Ahhzz]

Enjoying mapping so far. Mostly came out well, did an unidentified T1 Rare today, and came out with 3 uniques. Not really useful to me, but could use them to meet the next Divination turn-in

 

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Enjoying mapping so far. Mostly came out well, did an unidentified T1 Rare today, and came out with 3 uniques. Not really useful to me, but could use them to meet the next Divination turn-in
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Glad someone's enjoying themselves. My clvl92 RF templar died twice since my last post But I did get some nice triple resist gloves.

 

[Ahhzz]

Glad someone's enjoying themselves. My clvl92 RF templar died twice since my last post But I did get some nice triple resist gloves.

*ouch* but grats I'm sitting with Geofri's Crest, 16-20% on all 4 Gotta work on my chaos, tho, it's currently in the neg

 

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*ouch* but grats I'm sitting with Geofri's Crest, 16-20% on all 4 Gotta work on my chaos, tho, it's currently in the neg

Chaos is always negative, but you typically keep that in the back of your head and switch one of your flasks for an amethyst when you have to deal with it. I've been doing maps up till tier 5 so far with my chaos resist ~-20% and chaos has never been a problem. My other resists are (over)capped, but it's always nice to free some slots to be able to get more life.

I was trying to reach 93 so I can park this char for a while. I guess it will be a while longer now

Fwiw, it seems most of the time it's lightning that kills me, even if I'm running Purity of Lightning (ganged up heralds of the obelisk and some bosses). I probably need a topaz flask that removes shock on top of that. Though truth be told, anything in this game will kill you as soon as you forget to keep an eye out for it.

 

[flmatter]

My witch is a glass cannon. So frustrating at times. I may go back into my minion build for some survival or at least for running maps. should build melee and start grind all over.
@Ahhzz those bows help any?

Though truth be told, anything in this game will kill you as soon as you forget to keep an eye out for it.

yes it does with a quickness

 

[Ahhzz]

My witch is a glass cannon. So frustrating at times. I may go back into my minion build for some survival or at least for running maps. should build melee and start grind all over.
@Ahhzz those bows help any?

yes it does with a quickness

They did, thanks tons !! Really appreciate you taking the time

Chaos is always negative, but you typically keep that in the back of your head and switch one of your flasks for an amethyst when you have to deal with it. I've been doing maps up till tier 5 so far with my chaos resist ~-20% and chaos has never been a problem. My other resists are (over)capped, but it's always nice to free some slots to be able to get more life.

I was trying to reach 93 so I can park this char for a while. I guess it will be a while longer now

Fwiw, it seems most of the time it's lightning that kills me, even if I'm running Purity of Lightning (ganged up heralds of the obelisk and some bosses). I probably need a topaz flask that removes shock on top of that. Though truth be told, anything in this game will kill you as soon as you forget to keep an eye out for it.

I was killed probably 3 times this last week farming the Ravaged Square by the stupid fire spitting Matron when I wasn't ready for her lol

 

[flmatter]

anytime . let me know if you are looking for anything else.

 

[Ahhzz]

anytime . let me know if you are looking for anything else.

thanks man Doing ok right now, not even sure what I need atm, just watching for something spectacular to come by heheh. I guess I'm looking for a replacement belt, but it'll be hard to beat +21% to All resistances.... Even when I get a socketed from the Abyss closing out... I did snag an Unset ring with 32 Cold Res which helped a lot, almost capped there. I want to work Culling into a sequence soon. I may swap my Mirage Archer out and put it there: it just took me so many blasted Chroms to get all green on my Armor, I hate to break it off again.

edit: Aha!! Culling is a green gonna give it a swing

 

[Ahhzz]

Enjoying running maps, and doing my dailies. Had internet problems couple of nights ago, and had started my Zana daily. She had another "help someone else" map, which is awesome: extra rep! But I couldn't stay connected, died three times, gave up and went to bed.

Went ahead and spent the money to "upgrade" my patronage to Abyssal Imp for the portal effect, and spent the extra on a Maps tab. Only been mapping a few weeks, and already my tab was getting PACKED. So, that's handy as hell, and discovered I actually had 2 "Legacy" maps, since they wouldn't fit in with the rest heheh. Ran one this morning, and Arcade, and will run the other tonite.

Just found out about "shaped" maps this last weekend, and was amused as hell at the new Shaped drops. That background is an awesome effect. I spent a couple of Chaos for 2 Shaped bows, I'll try to upgrade/tweak as I go on....

I swapped my crown for a rare with a +2 to minions. Lost Fire res, but still good on lightning and cold, and it added rarity. I worked Culling Shot into my Iceshot, and it makes a great finisher. DPS is high on Iceshot, and for single targets it works great. I dropped my Quicksilver pot for a Sulfur pot, and the Onslaught was bumped for a Stibnite. I'm getting onslaught regularly with TS from a gem, and I'd rather have 4 sequential 40% damage bumps on a boss. I also played around with my Hybrid flask and got a Surgeon's with Gluttony, so my healing and mana can refresh during a boss battle. I was running into dry mana on long battles, and needed a good way to more mana without going to a straight mana. I found a 15Q Phys Damage Support, and I'm leveling it up instead of the Mirage I had in that spot. I just couldn't make myself change out any of my existing gems for the archer, as much as I enjoyed having him on the lower levels. At higher levels, I can clear groups easily without needing something shooting other directions, unless things go completely sideways, at which point, the mirage wouldn't matter. I do admit running him with the Quill in the Abyss league was fun as hell tho hahaha. I guess I'll be looking for a Lionseye or a Chin Sol next.

Anyone else having fun with the 3.1 Update?

 

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I haven't got to the "war of the atlas" part yet, so the game is pretty much the same for me.
But they changed the maps and the wiki isn't up to date yet and that makes for a very awkward feeling, running maps without knowing what to expect at the end
Also, what's a "shaped drop"?

PS Dying three times in a Zana mission is a sign your defense doesn't measure up yet. Fwiw my ranger is squishy, too.

 

[Ahhzz]

I haven't got to the "war of the atlas" part yet, so the game is pretty much the same for me.
But they changed the maps and the wiki isn't up to date yet and that makes for a very awkward feeling, running maps without knowing what to expect at the end
Also, what's a "shaped drop"?

you can see one here at the 1:20 mark

And yes, that background flows thru the next item in your inventory that's shaped lol. I've got a couple of armor pieces and several weapons side by side in my inventory, and the background floats along all of them

For the maps, I just keep running T1-T3, mostly T2, trying to get used to a map type, and slowly gear up. The new headpiece I got was from a map, and so are the new gloves. I got a lucky drop with the mana leech built in, and a big bump to evasion, and 9% AS increase . Just had to use the crafting table to get me 3 blues and a red on my armor/evasion shoes lol. I discovered the system doesn't like to give you slots that are opposed to the basic stats on the gear. Hard as hell to get a lot of Blue on an Armor hat, etc.

PS Dying three times in a Zana mission is a sign your defense doesn't measure up yet. Fwiw my ranger is squishy, too.

Nope, dying 3 times in a Zana mission is a sign that my latency was thru the roof with my ISP having SERIOUS issues. Totally pissed me off lol

 

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you can see one here at the 1:20 mark

And yes, that background flows thru the next item in your inventory that's shaped lol. I've got a couple of armor pieces and several weapons side by side in my inventory, and the background floats along all of them

For the maps, I just keep running T1-T3, mostly T2, trying to get used to a map type, and slowly gear up. The new headpiece I got was from a map, and so are the new gloves. I got a lucky drop with the mana leech built in, and a big bump to evasion, and 9% AS increase . Just had to use the crafting table to get me 3 blues and a red on my armor/evasion shoes lol. I discovered the system doesn't like to give you slots that are opposed to the basic stats on the gear. Hard as hell to get a lot of Blue on an Armor hat, etc.

Ok, that's an elder/shaper item, not a shaped drop.

Nope, dying 3 times in a Zana mission is a sign that my latency was thru the roof with my ISP having SERIOUS issues. Totally pissed me off lol

I see, I thought you died three times in addition of your connection lagging. Sucks either way, but glad you have defenses figured out.

 

[Ahhzz]

Ok, that's an elder/shaper item, not a shaped drop.

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It dropped from a mob in a shaper map, it's a shaped drop

 

[Ahhzz]

Spent 30 minutes this morning chasing this. That was fun. A level 73 daily map for Tora, and guess who popped up...

 

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Spent 30 minutes this morning chasing this. That was fun. A level 73 daily map for Tora, and guess who popped up...

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Congrats. I've been doing Zana's maps for a while a didn't find that guy. Luckily for me, I don't care about achievements either
How was the fight?

 

[Ahhzz]

Congrats. I've been doing Zana's maps for a while a didn't find that guy. Luckily for me, I don't care about achievements either
How was the fight?

edit: Wasn't chasing the achievement, just started my daily for Tora, and the jackass spawned fire on my head. Figured out what happened when I went back in and saw the Gold name, promptly dying again. Went to look for the name online, and figured I'd kill him for the loot anyway.

Not an achievement guy either, unless they give me a bonus in some way. Didn't want to find that guy at all. He was dropping fire zones of some sort on me that would slow me, and then one shot me before I could get out... spawned a mass quantity of skellies on a regular basis, teleported, random weapon throws, and animated swords... Pain in the ass. Wasn't too hard to damage, but even after swapping to FR pot, I died repeatedly. I kept going until I dropped him, because I'm too stubborn to give up, and I expected some solid drops. Got a blue sapphire necklace, and some random blues. Was so pissed.

 

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edit: Wasn't chasing the achievement, just started my daily for Tora, and the jackass spawned fire on my head. Figured out what happened when I went back in and saw the Gold name, promptly dying again. Went to look for the name online, and figured I'd kill him for the loot anyway.

Not an achievement guy either, unless they give me a bonus in some way. Didn't want to find that guy at all. He was dropping fire zones of some sort on me that would slow me, and then one shot me before I could get out... spawned a mass quantity of skellies on a regular basis, teleported, random weapon throws, and animated swords... Pain in the ass. Wasn't too hard to damage, but even after swapping to FR pot, I died repeatedly. I kept going until I dropped him, because I'm too stubborn to give up, and I expected some solid drops. Got a blue sapphire necklace, and some random blues. Was so pissed.

Ok, I just looked him up on wiki. A PITA through and through. And probably in in sweet PoE style, he didn't drop much loot either, am I right?

 

[Ahhzz]

Ok, I just looked him up on wiki. A PITA through and through. And probably in in sweet PoE style, he didn't drop much loot either, am I right?

not a damn thing. nothing rare, just some magic crap.

I've also just about given up on my ranger right now. I'm running a fire and ice mage whose tooltip dps is about 4 times the ranger, and she's 18 levels under the ranger. I've been enjoying the mage, and just using the ranger to daily my masters. Once I clear the game with her, I'll move her to maps and dailies, and then restart a ranger, try again.

Gotta go looking for a staff, so I can have a second 5-L setup. Even a 4-L would be nice

 

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not a damn thing. nothing rare, just some magic crap.

I've also just about given up on my ranger right now. I'm running a fire and ice mage whose tooltip dps is about 4 times the ranger, and she's 18 levels under the ranger. I've been enjoying the mage, and just using the ranger to daily my masters. Once I clear the game with her, I'll move her to maps and dailies, and then restart a ranger, try again.

Gotta go looking for a staff, so I can have a second 5-L setup. Even a 4-L would be nice

Ha, a ranger is what I used first to do the masters as well. I threw in a marauder at some point as some masters were too difficult. But yes, the sad part is that you can't actually play what you want in PoE, you have to play what the RNG will allow.

4-linking is no problem, I think it takes ~10 tries. For 5L, Q20 the item first and then 6-socket it. It's easier to get 5 link with an extra socket that can spawn a link. Or you can always just craft the links. But I usually don't do that, hoping some day I'll get lucky and 6 link something. And I'm doing great with the hoping part so far.

 

[Ahhzz]

Ha, a ranger is what I used first to do the masters as well. I threw in a marauder at some point as some masters were too difficult. But yes, the sad part is that you can't actually play what you want in PoE, you have to play what the RNG will allow.

4-linking is no problem, I think it takes ~10 tries. For 5L, Q20 the item first and then 6-socket it. It's easier to get 5 link with an extra socket that can spawn a link. Or you can always just craft the links. But I usually don't do that, hoping some day I'll get lucky and 6 link something. And I'm doing great with the hoping part so far.

yeah, I do really well with the hoping part too . I'm running a mace and a shield now, and they're great, but I really want to buff my Freezing pulse with at least one more link, and preferably two. I've got room on the gloves or the boots to move my "CoDT" combo, so I won't stress over losing the shield. Can you believe the Pulse is running 12kdps with just a Controlled Destruct and Echo?? Drives me nuts.... It's not even really being helped much with the +2 Cold gems on the mace...

 

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yeah, I do really well with the hoping part too . I'm running a mace and a shield now, and they're great, but I really want to buff my Freezing pulse with at least one more link, and preferably two. I've got room on the gloves or the boots to move my "CoDT" combo, so I won't stress over losing the shield. Can you believe the Pulse is running 12kdps with just a Controlled Destruct and Echo?? Drives me nuts.... It's not even really being helped much with the +2 Cold gems on the mace...

Hehe, try running a RF build like I do, where there's literally no clue about how much damage you're inflicting. Mobs still tend to melt, tho.

 

[WhiteNoise]

I started playing this last weekend. I'm not sure how I missed this title. I think I assumed it was a straight up PVP game which I sometimes avoid.

It is a bit much to take. The passive tree alone is....alarming. I'm still trying to figure everything out but I feel that I'm getting there. The game is super fun.