Post your JetStream 2 speeds!

[bonehead123]

Well, my avg score from 5 runs was 312,467.58, but that's probably because I used the computer that I got from those triangle-shaped dudes that built the pyramids, hehehe

 

[SchumannFrequency]

I upgraded to dual channel RAM today. So it uses 2 x ddr3 4gb @ 1600 Mhz.

110 is not a bad result for an i3-3240 dual core CPU. It is a pity that the i3-3240 cannot be overclocked.

 

[AMF]

firefox privacy latest version

 

[SchumannFrequency]

iPhone 12 mini & Safari

 

[Dr. Dro]

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iPhone 12 mini & Safari

Android is a joke as usual... Snapdragon 888 Galaxy Z Flip3 5g (SM-F711B) on Android 13 with Kiwi Browser

If the EU wins its case against Apple and forces their hand on sideloading and right to repair I'm never gonna look back

 

[SchumannFrequency]

Android is a joke as usual... Snapdragon 888 Galaxy Z Flip3 5g (SM-F711B) on Android 13 with Kiwi Browser

If the EU wins its case against Apple and forces their hand on sideloading and right to repair I'm never gonna look back

It's not all roses and moonshine for Apple users either.

My parents both have a Sony XZ2 and my youngest sister has an iPhone 13 and my oldest sister has the iPhone 12 mini.

For the iPhone 12 mini, I notice during the benchmarks that the battery drains much faster than the older Sony XZ2 that I was able to purchase much cheaper.

Apple iPhone 12 mini - Full phone specifications

www.gsmarena.com

Sony Xperia XZ2 - Full phone specifications

www.gsmarena.com

Apple iPhone 13 - Full phone specifications

www.gsmarena.com

iPhone 12 mini: Battery life endurance rating 69h

That is simply far too little for a device that has been sold so expensively.

For the iPhone 13, which for some reason scores lower (or sometimes similar) than the iPhone 12 mini. It is a company mobile so maybe there is some software on it that slows down this iPhone 13. Maybe I didn't check that all tabs were closed. But the results were not what I expected anyway.

The Sony XZ2 is older than the iPhone 12 mini and the iPhone 13. But it takes the best photos of these three. Especially when you stabilize. All iPhones produced in the last 5 years have a huge problem with photos, namely foliage and grass look terrible, like a drawing instead of a photo.

The browser performance of the iPhone 12 and iPhone 13 is indeed amazing, and as good as many recent desktop PCs. But performance hasn't always been something Apple has been competitive about either. My oldest sister has a MacBook Pro of the year 2019 (before the M1 chips) Well it is much less snappy than the super old FreeBSD computer I use, probably because I use lightning fast apps like Viewnior, feh, Claws Mail, mpv, zathura document viewer, Evince, Atril document viewer... Finding decent free apps is super hard, even simple apps like photo viewer have very few free options. RawTherapee which is better than Lighroom is unstable on macOS while completely stable on Linux and FreeBSD. This MacBook Pro had recently completely crashed, which resulted in more than 1000 EUR repair costs. My FreeBSD desktop which is much older has not crashed once in five years of daily use, and even in the event of a crash the data is much more secure thanks to ZFS.

So what I'm trying to say, Apple has the performance now, but it hasn't always been that way.
And there are many other areas where macOS/iOS systems are not competitive with FreeBSD/Linux/Android systems.

 

[mraly128]

Hi I’m new need some help if anyone can . I normal use the benchmark website to see how fast my
Mac mini is running. But this evening the result said “Infinity”
Can anyone explain what does this mean?
Many thanks Aly

 

[SchumannFrequency]

Hi I’m new need some help if anyone can . I normal use the benchmark website to see how fast my
Mac mini is running. But this evening the result said “Infinity”
Can anyone explain what does this mean?
Many thanks Aly

There is probably something preventing the benchmark, or causing it to end immediately, and perhaps the interpretation of the performance calculation then becomes infinite due to an error in the code.
I would advise you to install Chrome or a browser based on Chromium and then try the JetStream 2 test again on your Mac mini.

 

[Athlonite]

Vivaldi seem to be on a run lately couple of more updates (6~7 actually) and more perf again

Vivaldi

5.6.2867.46 (Stable channel) (64-bit)

View attachment 275213

Seems Vivaldi have been making great stride with java speed as you can see the previous score was 254.511 and this new one of 283.503

Vivaldi

6.0.2979.15 (Stable channel) (64-bit)

 

[SchumannFrequency]

AMD R5 PRO 3400G + mageia & Brave browser

 

[SchumannFrequency]

AMD R5 PRO 3400G + Clear Linux & Opera browser

 

[TedNukem]

Score: 291.754
System: i9-13980HX + 32GB DDR5 + RTX 4080 12GB
OS: Windows 11 Pro

 

[Marcus Vinicus]

Not sure what a good score is but here's mine
System - see signature below
Opera 99.0.4788.77

Score = 326.109

 

[Athlonite]

Vivaldi are making little improvements with every update it seems previous score of 283.503

 

[Ivan Bliminse]

 

[SchumannFrequency]

Vivaldi are making little improvements with every update it seems previous score of 283.503

On NixOS I use a fairly recent Vivaldi version based on Chromium 112 and a Brave version based on Chromium 113.

The Brave version is on average 1.5% faster in JetStream 2. The ad and tracker blocker of Brave is very optimized and efficient.
It seems to me that Brave is going to load sites faster in reality than Vivaldi.

Brave on NixOS is a snappy experience and it also scores well considering the hardware.

And Firefox feels similar to Brave in terms of website loading speed on NixOS.

 

[Marcus Vinicus]

This is with Brave 1.52.126 and beats my Vivaldi score above
Edge stable also beat Vivaldi and scored 333.691

All with system noted in signature below.

Brave Score 343.660

 

[Dr. Dro]

Firefox is a slug as usual, even on a high-end PC

Not a clean browser or anything, but reflective of my real-world usage, with all the add-ons I use and all.

 

[atomek]

Apple Air M1 / 16GB / 500 GB disk, Browser: Brave (chromium engine):

JetStream 2 Score: 266

This is a passively cooled CPU that consumes ~30W during benchmarking.

Anyone who thinks that AMD/Intel (x86) will ever be able to catch up with the efficiency of the ARM64 must delusional. This is like 5-7 node steps to catch up with Apple Silicon. This is a beast. For 25+ years i've been building PCs, I love fiddling with hardware, but this is something on next level which makes me rethink if that hobby even makes sense. The only thing i'm missing from Apple is support for external GPUs.

 

[SchumannFrequency]

Anyone who thinks that AMD/Intel (x86) will ever be able to catch up with the efficiency of the ARM64 must delusional. This is like 5-7 node steps to catch up with Apple Silicon. This is a beast. For 25+ years i've been building PCs, I love fiddling with hardware, but this is something on next level which makes me rethink if that hobby even makes sense. The only thing i'm missing from Apple is support for external GPUs.

They also know this at AMD.
Former AMD chip architect says it was wrong to can Arm project

Former AMD chip architect says it was wrong to can Arm CPU

Cancelled the K12 CPU? Big mistake. Huge, says Jim Keller

www.theregister.com

What is often forgotten is that software can be more important than hardware in many situations. JetStream 2 is an 'Apple benchmark' and e.g. Firefox scores poorly in it. If you go and ask talented JS developers if Firefox is slower than Safari/Chrome in JS I think they will say that Firefox is usually faster than Safari and Chrome. By which I mean that JetStream 2 is not an objective benchmark.

I also suspect that it is possible to make your M1 processor score higher in this test by using Safari/Flow/Orion instead of Brave:

New features in the Orion Browser | Kagi Blog

*Orion beta 0.99.124* has just landed ( https://browser.kagi.com/#download_sec ) and is bringing over 160 new features, improvements, and bug fixes, making this our most significant release ever.

blog.kagi.com

Harnessing the raw power of the high-performance WebKit engine and layering extra optimizations on our end, we’ve shattered records by scoring a mind-blowing 499 on the Speedometer 3 test – the highest score known to humankind for any browser!

Ekioh | Detail on Flow perfomance results with MotionMark benchmark

A more detailed description of the MotionMark benchmark results which show Ekioh's Flow browser to be significantly faster than other browsers.

www.ekioh.com

The results show Flow to be 50% faster than the best of the rest and well over three times the speed of Chrome.

And one last thing is that Arm and RISC-V are probably not the most ingenious processor architectures either:

Light-based computing: https://www.heise.de/hintergrund/De...mit-Licht-schnell-rechnen-laesst-6165686.html

Tachyum Prodigy: https://www.tachyum.com/media/press-releases/

 

[Dr. Dro]

M series CPUs are about the best thing Crapple has developed since ever, shame the Mac OS is so restrictive in regards to graphics upgrades.

If they made a computer like the Power Mac G5 or the first few generations of the Mac Pro for a decent price with the ability to pick any M2 processor out, install your own RAM, storage etc it would be a hit, but DIY is antithetical to what Apple believes on.

Oh well I'll buy a Mac mini someday so I can experience it, no rush.

 

[SchumannFrequency]

M series CPUs are about the best thing Crapple has developed since ever, shame the Mac OS is so restrictive in regards to graphics upgrades.

I think Apple also developed 'a better browser' than MS & Google.

You can say that the M1 and M2 are currently the most efficient CPUs for consumers.

And Safari and Firefox seem to be much more efficient on these CPUs than Chrome and Edge:

8 browsers in a tiny car: Energy Efficiency benchmark

I’ve recently been on a crusade to test power efficiency of most popular browsers, so you don’t have to. Chrome, Arc, Edge, Safari…

medium.com

-Safari was amazing. Its 3 times as efficient (in some tests up to 5x), its not Blink, its privacy oriented, its stabile. That all sounds good but in fact it was too good at preserving energy.

-Arc was surprisingly good. I mean, the result was almost on par with Firefox, and way below other Blink/Chromium browsers.

-Orion had all the good parts of Safari in it, combined with a working WebGL implementation, native PiP, multiple profiles. I was ready to just dive in and switch myself and my whole family to it. I would pay for a browser like this. On the energy front, it did great really. Almost on par with Safari.

-The good old Firefox was closer to Safari than to Chrome when it comes to energy efficiency actually. FF also felt snappy and fast while doing it. That is commendable. I don’t have anything else to add really, it did the job well, didn’t get hot or spin up fans, WebGL worked just fine, it was a very smooth experience.

-The Chromium gang: Brave, Edge Opera are literally Chrome with a fake moustache. Brave tries to sell you crypto, Opera is playing around with the IE-like idea of toolbars, Edge feels like a Microsoft product. But, all are unmistakably Chromium when it comes to power usage. Some of them have low power features which require tinkering, others claim its telemetry and ad-blocking that save battery, which did not really show.
Edge’s low power mode was the only one which made any difference and brought it into Arc range.

 

[SchumannFrequency]

Hardware: Intel i3-3240 + 8GB DDR3 @1600MHz dual-channel + NVIDIA GTX 650 1GB + EVO 850 500GB
Software: ROSA Fresh 12.4 + LXQt + Chrome version 117.0.5911.2 + proprietary Nvidia driver

 

[Wormisko]

Dont know if thats good or bad honestly

 

[SchumannFrequency]

Hardware: Intel i3-3240 + 8GB DDR3 @1600MHz dual-channel + NVIDIA GTX 650 1GB + EVO 850 500GB
Software: Clear Linux + i3 wm + Chrome version 117.0.5911.2 + nouveau open-source GPU driver

Dont know if thats good or bad honestly

If you look at Athlonite's scores then you can suspect that you are going to score +- 6% higher with Vivaldi. You're also going to be able to score higher with Chrome unstable. I am now using Version 117.0.5911.2 and I haven't had a stability problem yet on Clear Linux and ROSA Fresh.

As you can see I score +- 119 currently on an eleven year old i3 CPU. Even this result is not especially bad when compared to the Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra 5G Exynos 2200, Xclipse 920, 8192.
This smartphone is currently still often sold for more than 900 EUR and it scored 96.8 in this test one year ago:

Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra comparison: Snapdragon 8 Gen. 1 vs. Exynos 2200 - is Europe being cheated?

Is the Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra with the Exynos 2200 really worse than the Snapdragon version? Which is the better smartphone?

www.notebookcheck.net