RTX 4090 has Issues with Need for Speed Unbound that can Only be Fixed with a VBIOS Update

Tsukiyomi91 · Dec 3, 2022

Damn... imagine paying so much and still getting this kind of issue. That sucks.

Scrizz · Dec 3, 2022

Kyan said:
Calling NFS a race sim game is an insult to other race sim games. Not really the topic of the article but, yeah.

Yeah I was going to say... since when was NFS a sim. lmao
They should just call it what it is... a game

Vayra86 · Dec 3, 2022

Tsukiyomi91 said:
Damn... imagine paying so much and still getting this kind of issue. That sucks.

Darwin agrees though. Fools & Money get the treatment they deserve. Evolution is trying to cancel it out, clearly, but is thus far unable to fix human stupidity.

Dazz023 · Dec 3, 2022

@btarunr
I really like this site, but cmon... Nonsense - clickbait articles like this one are really sad.
Btw. Nvidia rep. responded to this, if you even care: link

AsRock · Dec 3, 2022

Vayra86 said:
Well I mean, free software updates, free tool, yeah, I definitely feel enthusiasm now to buy a 4090 after all! The green love is stronk!

I mean, they even still deliver driver updates ON TOP of all this! And they even have time to rename almost half their product stack alongside all of that... I totally understand they charge >1K tbh.

But they still doing the shit, Hint 3060 8GB and the 3060 12GB.

eidairaman1 said:
Ffs gran tourismo never handled realistically, stiff as hell steering, that is not how true vehicles behave.

Gt is not a sim but a sham

But games like Porsche unleashed are not what they aim to make, another comes to mine GT Sports Car. Now that's when they were fun.

Sora · Dec 3, 2022

Sounds like nonsense, because it is nonsense.

The DisplayID/GOP region is only interacted with at the UEFI boot stage, it isn't used at all once the system is in windows and the driver has assumed control.

The EA help article has also now been corrected to point out that a Mainboard bios update is actually required.

ThrashZone · Dec 3, 2022

Dazz023 said:
@btarunr
I really like this site, but cmon... Nonsense - clickbait articles like this one are really sad.
Btw. Nvidia rep. responded to this, if you even care: link

Hi,
Guess it took this article to get a nvidia rep to comment on the issue on reddit though didn't it so not really click bait :laugh:

Lycanwolfen · Dec 3, 2022

I remember one of my old nvidia cards back in the day the 8800 GTX it was noisey and very hot running games. I used an nvidia bios editor and lowered the clock speed only by 100 mhz and the card ran cool and the games saw hardly any difference in speed. I would bet money the 4090 if the clock speed was 2ghz and not 2.5 ghz it would do the same lower the power to around 350 ish and still perform just about the same. Nvidia I find clocks there cards way too high sometimes.

Dragokar · Dec 3, 2022

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
Guess it took this article to get a nvidia rep to comment on the issue on reddit though didn't it so not really click bait

Well, it wouldn't be the first time that a denial is not true after all. Besides that, this isn't a clickbait title imo. The posted what EA and nvidia stated about the issue and what they did to give affected users a solution. That EA now claims that you need a UEFI update is kinda ridiculous in my opinion. It is now more like it is not our fault, you are the fault machinery.........

The game uses a many year old engine and if they screwed up that heavily, they should sell the company right away to Tencent, but Tencent did not want them

john_ · Dec 3, 2022

Damn those AMD drivers.

Oh....wait......

Vayra86 · Dec 3, 2022

Assimilator said:
Such stellar engineering that apparently only 50 of the over 130,000 of RTX 4090 owners were stupid enough to fail to plug it in correctly, which I'd wager is lower than the average RMA rate of any other GPU.

Of course, that reality doesn't stop equally stupid forumgoers from constantly bringing this topic up in a pathetic attempt to blame NVIDIA for end user failures. Said forumgoers also choose to ignore that "evil" NVIDIA could easily have left those idiot users to deal with the consequences of their inability to perform basic PC assembly, but didn't.

What? There was consensus the adapter provided was a fabulous job of cost cutting measures combined with a complete design failure. A good adapter is resilient enough to counteract stupid. In fact, that's the actual norm for consumer products in general. And it is also what pcie 8 and 6 pin used to be: foolproof. I'm not even going to link you a source because you damn well know better.

Also stop pulling numbers out of your arse to make such a ridiculous point as if there is weight to it.

This argument you're making here is of the same quality as 'muh last 500mb are slower, but that's fine, it has 4GB right?!'. Bottom barrel logic for some odd purpose that certainly isn't 'in our best interests' as consumers. What happened there exactly to resolve it? Oh yeah. Exactly. Now, put 2 and 2 together, why was Nvidia quick to compensate those users with a molten 4090? Because they are wrong?

Upgrayedd · Dec 3, 2022

john_ said:
Damn those AMD drivers.

Oh....wait......

Dang that's crazy since it was a mobo update that's the fix. Not initially Nvidia's fault like everyone wanted to happily blame on. Your fan boy epeen missed the hole.

mahoney · Dec 3, 2022

the popular genre-defining race sim by EA

when I stopped reading

Ware · Dec 3, 2022

This article had a great sensational title, but I think the "update" deserves to be the story.
At this point I think we all see the title was incorrect.
You can get a lot of reactions by publishing sensational claims, even if you know they are incorrect.
It sounds so unlikely that it's hard to believe it was taken seriously and repeated here without question.
When you know that you repeated something incorrect, you should put in a greater effort to the correction than what you put in to the mistake.

What was EA's "testing procedure" that lead them to think the VBIOS update was the fix?
1. Update your drivers - that didn't work!
2. Check for firmware update - hey! there a new VBIOS available and even though it says to only apply iy to fix black screen at boot let's try it anyway!
3. Post first "fix" - by coincidence it "seemed" to work so report success!
4. Check for firmware again - hey! there a new motherboard BIOS available and even though it doesn't apply to me at all let's try it anyway!
5. Post next "fix" - by coincidence it "seemed" to work so report success!
6, 7, 8, 9.....
∞. Inspect code

Maybe they even came to this forum for help, and determined that VBIOS updates make everything better.
Now they point to motherboard firmware with no specifics.
Forgive me for not trusting them.

If this is the only game affected, then what is really the problem?
Considering how EA rushed to point at 4090 VBIOS, and how they haven't said anything specific about exactly what the requirements are for this game that only certain BIOS enable, I am going to consider the game itself to be garbage.

xorbe · Dec 3, 2022

World's first? No, the 2nd gen Titan had a hw issue they swept under the rug with a driver change to minimize hitting the issue, but they never admitted. Cards of that generation released after had the hw fix.

john_ · Dec 3, 2022

Upgrayedd said:
Dang that's crazy since it was a mobo update that's the fix. Not initially Nvidia's fault like everyone wanted to happily blame on. Your fan boy epeen missed the hole.

I am afraid the fanboy is someone who is rushing to defend his beloved company, missing totally the humorous nature of the post. And yes it's in THE TITLE of the article, captain obvious.
Should I even comment about epeens and missed holes? I'll pass.

venturi · Dec 3, 2022

I believe this has become an insinuation that it is a now a motherboard update.

Honestly, I'm having trouble that a game commands vbios or motherboard bios update

Does anyone else actually believe it?

OneMoar · Dec 3, 2022

can we lock this thread
its clear none of these idiots are reading it and are jumping on the fuck "insert vendor name here" bandwagon
seriously all of you go home you are being stupid

hurakura · Dec 3, 2022

Neither the game or the graphics card are very popular, so who cares

qubit · Dec 3, 2022

First the fried power connector (still unresolved) and now this. What other surprises will NVIDIA have in store for us?

It's not just the excessive price that stops me buying this card.

lemonadesoda · Dec 3, 2022

AsRock said:
But games like Porsche Unleased are not what they aim to make, ... Now that's when they were fun.

+1 to remake of Porsche Unleashed.

Hattu · Dec 3, 2022

Ok. So, it was a MB BIOS thing, not VBIOS. Great.

All I would like to know is, what was the problem for a start? AMD or Intel MB bioses? Which chipset? Which CPUs? Why?

Nothing is answered....

Camm · Dec 3, 2022

My security ears are pricked.

As for issues, the 4090 kinda sucks. Sort of was forced to upgrade from X570 because of low power clock crashes with the 4090 (for reference, my previous 3090 worked a treat).

Gucky · Dec 4, 2022

The Question is...is it really a VBIOS or BIOS problem? Or a "EA made some shit, let others fix it" problem.

Fluffmeister · Dec 4, 2022

Embarrassing all round, what a pathetic bunch you are.

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